2006 Hawkeye huge MOT failure
19 March 2018, 12:07 PM
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2006 Hawkeye huge MOT failure
So my 2006 Hawkeye 107000 on the clock only put on about 7500 miles in the last 2 n half years of owning it has kicked me in the b@lls bigtime after MOT test saturday.
Following issues:
1: excessive emissions content at idle excessive
2: after 2nd fast idle excessive
3: both rear brake discs weakened
4: nearside and offside rear inner sills excessively corroded
5: nearside and offside suspension mountings excessively corroded
Advisory Information:
1: both front calipers are badly corroded
2: Rear of the vehicle is badly corroded
3: front constant velocity joint gaiter damaged
So Im understandably gutted as you might expect so now comes a tough decision.
I have all the components to sort out the rear brakes (discs, pads, caliper repair kit, handbrake shoes)
Id need a caliper repair kit for the front brakes.
I have a brand new sports cat but probably cant fit without a remap and cant even begin to think about remap without sorting all other issues.
Ive been told Im looking at about £1500 for all welding work and other issues.
Im really torn as to what to do, do I:
1: sell it as is been completely honest about its issues and see what I get for it? (Not got a clue as to its current value in this condition)
2: fix it and keep it
3: sell it and put some money towards and buy something else but it wont be a scooby probably just a run of the mill motor.
Any thoughts anybody has or anything ive not considered would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Dave
Following issues:
1: excessive emissions content at idle excessive
2: after 2nd fast idle excessive
3: both rear brake discs weakened
4: nearside and offside rear inner sills excessively corroded
5: nearside and offside suspension mountings excessively corroded
Advisory Information:
1: both front calipers are badly corroded
2: Rear of the vehicle is badly corroded
3: front constant velocity joint gaiter damaged
So Im understandably gutted as you might expect so now comes a tough decision.
I have all the components to sort out the rear brakes (discs, pads, caliper repair kit, handbrake shoes)
Id need a caliper repair kit for the front brakes.
I have a brand new sports cat but probably cant fit without a remap and cant even begin to think about remap without sorting all other issues.
Ive been told Im looking at about £1500 for all welding work and other issues.
Im really torn as to what to do, do I:
1: sell it as is been completely honest about its issues and see what I get for it? (Not got a clue as to its current value in this condition)
2: fix it and keep it
3: sell it and put some money towards and buy something else but it wont be a scooby probably just a run of the mill motor.
Any thoughts anybody has or anything ive not considered would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Dave
19 March 2018, 01:28 PM
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how handy are you with the spanners bud? looks like the welding is the big issue here (and cost) if you can sort the brakes and other jobs yourself then id be shopping around for quotes for the welding. local kerbside mechanics might do a decent job on the welding and be reasonable on price too. i feel your pain tho m8, chin up.
19 March 2018, 03:04 PM
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Was there any advisorys about corrosion at the last mot?....if not then surely it can't have got that bad in a year....unless you have been parking it in a salt bath!
I would take it for an MOT elsewhere and see if they come up with the same conclusion.
I would take it for an MOT elsewhere and see if they come up with the same conclusion.
19 March 2018, 03:43 PM
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- why is a 2006 impreza rotting so badly? I know the classics were old rot boxes but newages I thought were a lot better.
-my old 1999 Vectra had advisorys every year for corrosion on various parts under the car and that was used every day and I never ever washed it underneath and it only got a fail on the 4th year where a tiny hole had appeared near a mounting point.
no way could it get that bad in a year unless like already said you either park it in salt or wash it in acid.
2nd opinion me thinks and check the mot history online
https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-history
19 March 2018, 04:24 PM
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19 March 2018, 05:05 PM
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Mine failed on both rear inner sills in November of last year, rotted near the rear jacking points which had been crushed by jacking it up, it's a 2005 hawk sti and was my daily until a couple of years ago, doesn't help i suppose that it's parked over muddy grass at certain times. Got mine plated and welded up plus a blow in my centre pipe sorted for £175 and that was a main dealer as well.
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19 March 2018, 05:42 PM
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I reckon mot station trying to have him off for mug to be honest...
As said above get a second opinion
I was only taking **** on the above comment getting bored my apologies
As said above get a second opinion
I was only taking **** on the above comment getting bored my apologies
19 March 2018, 06:32 PM
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I wish I was decent with a set of spanners to tackle some of the work myself.
It had welding done on rear strut tower last year.
Its a WRX by the way. Motor is super solid car looks tidy inside and out apart from a dink on passenger rear quarter and a little crack in front bumper.
Im really torn to be honest!
The guy quoting me £1500 is my Mrs Dads best mate and close family friend but seems a fair few of you are advising me to have another MOT done?
It had welding done on rear strut tower last year.
Its a WRX by the way. Motor is super solid car looks tidy inside and out apart from a dink on passenger rear quarter and a little crack in front bumper.
Im really torn to be honest!
The guy quoting me £1500 is my Mrs Dads best mate and close family friend but seems a fair few of you are advising me to have another MOT done?
19 March 2018, 08:05 PM
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So no corrosion issues on past MOTs that I can see except it failed brake pipes on first MOT for me in March 2016.
March 2017 failed on corrosion issues mainly in one strut tower which I had patched at the time followed by a shed load of fails for corrosion this time round.
Car was on 99500 when I got it in November 2015 and currently has 107000 on it and spends its day either parked on tarmac in works car park or parked outside my house on paved driveway!
I just dont get how it could have gotten so rotted so quickly.
If I had it tested again elsewhere do I tell them Im looking for a second opinion on it or will they be able to tell from DVLA records what its failed on anyway?
March 2017 failed on corrosion issues mainly in one strut tower which I had patched at the time followed by a shed load of fails for corrosion this time round.
Car was on 99500 when I got it in November 2015 and currently has 107000 on it and spends its day either parked on tarmac in works car park or parked outside my house on paved driveway!
I just dont get how it could have gotten so rotted so quickly.
If I had it tested again elsewhere do I tell them Im looking for a second opinion on it or will they be able to tell from DVLA records what its failed on anyway?
19 March 2018, 08:21 PM
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The emissions and brake discs fair enough..
But those levels of corrosion? I expected it from my mid 90's classic but not an 06. I'd take it to a tester you know elsewhere first, I'd say they'l be able to see the records but will quickly confirm if its a pisstake or if its a genuine issue.
But those levels of corrosion? I expected it from my mid 90's classic but not an 06. I'd take it to a tester you know elsewhere first, I'd say they'l be able to see the records but will quickly confirm if its a pisstake or if its a genuine issue.
19 March 2018, 08:39 PM
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I can only think of one garage to take it thats relatively local to me and that would be Jaggers on Halifax Road.
Its a shame I cant get someone from here to look it over and retest it for me.
Its a shame I cant get someone from here to look it over and retest it for me.
19 March 2018, 08:48 PM
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Is there not a Kwik**** you can take it too for a test? without mentioning the previous one...
19 March 2018, 08:59 PM
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I'm in disbelief as its the rustiest pos I've ever seen.. Then just address any welding issues afterwards.
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19 March 2018, 09:15 PM
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I appreciate the idea Sunny but for me its about seeing if it refails on the same areas or less or more.
And if it does fail how much they will quote me for the work doing so I can stack it up against what Ive been quoted.
And if it does fail how much they will quote me for the work doing so I can stack it up against what Ive been quoted.
19 March 2018, 09:31 PM
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Fair enough, i'd definitely book it into your local asap then and see what the verdict is post test.
20 March 2018, 06:43 AM
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Let’s hope the mot station is trying to have his pants down and it’s not all so bad all the best to the op but do give me a shout if you want a hassle free sale I’ll bring her back to life
20 March 2018, 09:50 AM
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Some local councils do MOTs. The one local to me has a good reputation for honesty as they're not looking for work on the back of a fail. However, for the price of a bag of doughnuts they'll give your car a once over and list areas that may need attention in the future.
20 March 2018, 04:57 PM
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Well, well, well!!!!!!
Back from the retest and it failed but only on emissions and rear pads!!
Im actually stunned!
I have all all components for the rear brakes anyway and I have an oil filter and fresh oil for it but the emissions is a concern.
I have a Japspeed high flow sports cat sat in the garage but can I put this on as a replacement for the current cat if its the converter that's knackered without a remap?
Seems daft buying a replacement catalytic converter when I have the high flow sports cat sat brand new and unused!
Thoughts and comments much appreciated please.
Thanks
Back from the retest and it failed but only on emissions and rear pads!!
Im actually stunned!
I have all all components for the rear brakes anyway and I have an oil filter and fresh oil for it but the emissions is a concern.
I have a Japspeed high flow sports cat sat in the garage but can I put this on as a replacement for the current cat if its the converter that's knackered without a remap?
Seems daft buying a replacement catalytic converter when I have the high flow sports cat sat brand new and unused!
Thoughts and comments much appreciated please.
Thanks
20 March 2018, 05:08 PM
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Well, well, well!!!!!!
Back from the retest and it failed but only on emissions and rear pads!!
Im actually stunned!
I have all all components for the rear brakes anyway and I have an oil filter and fresh oil for it but the emissions is a concern.
I have a Japspeed high flow sports cat sat in the garage but can I put this on as a replacement for the current cat if its the converter that's knackered without a remap?
Seems daft buying a replacement catalytic converter when I have the high flow sports cat sat brand new and unused!
Thoughts and comments much appreciated please.
Thanks
Back from the retest and it failed but only on emissions and rear pads!!
Im actually stunned!
I have all all components for the rear brakes anyway and I have an oil filter and fresh oil for it but the emissions is a concern.
I have a Japspeed high flow sports cat sat in the garage but can I put this on as a replacement for the current cat if its the converter that's knackered without a remap?
Seems daft buying a replacement catalytic converter when I have the high flow sports cat sat brand new and unused!
Thoughts and comments much appreciated please.
Thanks
only issue now is that on your mot history check online it will still say about the corrosion so a would be buyer may be put off.
20 March 2018, 05:18 PM
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Well, well, well!!!!!!
Back from the retest and it failed but only on emissions and rear pads!!
Im actually stunned!
I have all all components for the rear brakes anyway and I have an oil filter and fresh oil for it but the emissions is a concern.
I have a Japspeed high flow sports cat sat in the garage but can I put this on as a replacement for the current cat if its the converter that's knackered without a remap?
Seems daft buying a replacement catalytic converter when I have the high flow sports cat sat brand new and unused!
Thoughts and comments much appreciated please.
Thanks
Back from the retest and it failed but only on emissions and rear pads!!
Im actually stunned!
I have all all components for the rear brakes anyway and I have an oil filter and fresh oil for it but the emissions is a concern.
I have a Japspeed high flow sports cat sat in the garage but can I put this on as a replacement for the current cat if its the converter that's knackered without a remap?
Seems daft buying a replacement catalytic converter when I have the high flow sports cat sat brand new and unused!
Thoughts and comments much appreciated please.
Thanks
I wouldn't run it with a sports cat without a remap personally, have you done away with any of the cats so far? I thought the hawk wrx had several..
Has it been diagnosed as the Cat at fault?
20 March 2018, 05:35 PM
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No unfortunately I couldnt hang about whilat they did the MOT but I made a point of asking about the condition of the underside of the car and they said they had found no issues!
I wonder if there is anyway to challenge the previous tester or something I will have a look at getting in touch with the DVLA see if they can offer some advice.
They seem to think its the cat thats at fault which seems to mirror what the initial tester thought.
Is there any off the shelf product I can use to clean the cat and if I do an oil and filter change along with that it might squeeze it through on emissions maybe
I wonder if there is anyway to challenge the previous tester or something I will have a look at getting in touch with the DVLA see if they can offer some advice.
They seem to think its the cat thats at fault which seems to mirror what the initial tester thought.
Is there any off the shelf product I can use to clean the cat and if I do an oil and filter change along with that it might squeeze it through on emissions maybe