Anyone in the market for an S204
09 October 2016, 09:46 PM
#1
Anyone in the market for an S204
My mate Baz asked me earlier if I knew anyone who'd be interested in his friends car which he's put up for sale.
http://www.appreciating-classics.com/car/subaru-s204/
http://www.appreciating-classics.com/car/subaru-s204/
16 January 2017, 12:42 PM
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Yes belongs to a member on here, nice genuine car with a good enthusiast owner.
I believe he gave it to them to sell on his behalf to avoid the hassle and tyre kickers.
Buy with confidence.
edit to add; There is a thread on here about it somewhere or it gets mentioned (other than this one) I don't think the owner comes on here much.
I believe he gave it to them to sell on his behalf to avoid the hassle and tyre kickers.
Buy with confidence.
edit to add; There is a thread on here about it somewhere or it gets mentioned (other than this one) I don't think the owner comes on here much.
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16 January 2017, 01:27 PM
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The s204 looks a gem mate
16 January 2017, 01:48 PM
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Have you read the advert properly?
It's had an engine rebuilt due to a cracked piston.
These cars have blueprinted engines from factory, I doubt the engine builder has built the engine with exactly the same tolerances as the factory.
The question I'd ask, why did the engine blow? It could be anything from bad maintenance to a failed sensor but if I were to pay 21k for a car I'd want the original engine from factory especially for such a limited edition model.
The car is way overpriced IMHO, Torque GT show indicative prices for S204 imported with similar mileage for £16k.
It's had an engine rebuilt due to a cracked piston.
These cars have blueprinted engines from factory, I doubt the engine builder has built the engine with exactly the same tolerances as the factory.
The question I'd ask, why did the engine blow? It could be anything from bad maintenance to a failed sensor but if I were to pay 21k for a car I'd want the original engine from factory especially for such a limited edition model.
The car is way overpriced IMHO, Torque GT show indicative prices for S204 imported with similar mileage for £16k.
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16 January 2017, 02:35 PM
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No just seen the pics
that might be worse than hailstones...
that might be worse than hailstones...
16 January 2017, 02:59 PM
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Have you read the advert properly?
It's had an engine rebuilt due to a cracked piston.
These cars have blueprinted engines from factory, I doubt the engine builder has built the engine with exactly the same tolerances as the factory.
The question I'd ask, why did the engine blow? It could be anything from bad maintenance to a failed sensor but if I were to pay 21k for a car I'd want the original engine from factory especially for such a limited edition model.
The car is way overpriced IMHO, Torque GT show indicative prices for S204 imported with similar mileage for £16k.
It's had an engine rebuilt due to a cracked piston.
These cars have blueprinted engines from factory, I doubt the engine builder has built the engine with exactly the same tolerances as the factory.
The question I'd ask, why did the engine blow? It could be anything from bad maintenance to a failed sensor but if I were to pay 21k for a car I'd want the original engine from factory especially for such a limited edition model.
The car is way overpriced IMHO, Torque GT show indicative prices for S204 imported with similar mileage for £16k.
16 January 2017, 03:10 PM
#10
About the engine rebuild. That's one way to look at it. The other way is that after 80 odd k miles the factory level of tolerance would have worn (as all engines do) and be long gone, so a full rebuild and refresh could be a good thing! Depending on the quality of the work done of course.
It's running 331 hp so must have been mapped and it's not impossible that somebody punched a piston in that process.
It's running 331 hp so must have been mapped and it's not impossible that somebody punched a piston in that process.
16 January 2017, 04:02 PM
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About the engine rebuild. That's one way to look at it. The other way is that after 80 odd k miles the factory level of tolerance would have worn (as all engines do) and be long gone, so a full rebuild and refresh could be a good thing! Depending on the quality of the work done of course.
It's running 331 hp so must have been mapped and it's not impossible that somebody punched a piston in that process.
It's running 331 hp so must have been mapped and it's not impossible that somebody punched a piston in that process.
S204s run 320ps from factory.
16 January 2017, 04:05 PM
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we have re-built various JDM STi's due to them using Hyperpeutic pistons and not failing in the same way the later 2.5 engines do......
16 January 2017, 04:15 PM
#15
I know of at least two Forester STis running OEM maps (on Shell V-power Nitro) for more than 60k miles without problems.
It's not something I'd risk personally though.
Interesting. What was the cause of failure in the ones you have rebuilt? Seems that JDM engines are not as bulletproof as it seems then or?
It's not something I'd risk personally though.
Interesting. What was the cause of failure in the ones you have rebuilt? Seems that JDM engines are not as bulletproof as it seems then or?
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I don't know where the legend of blueprint engines in limited edition models comes from as it's total twaddle just used by some to sell imported cars in the past.
I'd want the original engine untouched / unopened if it were me, originality is everything on these limited edition cars.
I'd want the original engine untouched / unopened if it were me, originality is everything on these limited edition cars.
16 January 2017, 04:38 PM
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I don't know where the legend of blueprint engines in limited edition models comes from as it's total twaddle just used by some to sell imported cars in the past.
I'd want the original engine untouched / unopened if it were me, originality is everything on these limited edition cars.
I'd want the original engine untouched / unopened if it were me, originality is everything on these limited edition cars.
I read this in the STi site a long time ago.
I am sure Don will be able to help
Edit: found link: http://sti.jp/s204/technicalnote/engine.html
"Similarly to S203, adopting a dedicated large-diameter twin scroll turbo (ball bearing) realized a sense of power in the medium and high speed range without sacrificing low speed range. Especially emphasis on transient characteristics, we picked up a fancy pickup from low speed and demonstrated high torque throughout. As a result of paying attention to the acceleration feeling obtained by accelerator on from the sixth cruise, the peak torque increased as compared with S203. In addition, weight balance adjustment was applied to the inner parts of the rotating parts of the engine, realizing a comfortable rise feeling feeling.
In order to equalize the weight of the piston and the connecting rod, it weighs and selects manually. The crankshaft re-weighs the balance amount of the manufactured crank and adjusts and finishes it manually. As a result, it is possible to obtain a pleasant smooth engine rotation and to improve the durability during continuous high load operation.
This is the same content as the motor sports engine assembled by STI. "
By the way these cars run a sports catalyst from factory it seems so all they need is a UK map.
"While maintaining the exhaust gas purification performance, the ventilation resistance of the catalyst main body is reduced and the exhaust efficiency is improved."
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17 January 2017, 07:55 AM
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For clarity, this being my car, the engine wasn't rebuilt, it has a brand new replacement JDM shortblock.
I agree it would of been best all round, especially for my wallet if the engine hadn't needed fixing but sometimes life deals you a **** hand!
More info on this thread if you guys are interested.
https://www.scoobynet.com/1041800-s204-2.html
PS. You will not import a S204, or S203 for anywhere near 16k! This will be the auction price. An equivalent car to mine, similar miles etc will be 2 million YEN absolute minimum at auction, probably a bit more now. This equates to over 23k landed before servicing, registration etc.
I agree it would of been best all round, especially for my wallet if the engine hadn't needed fixing but sometimes life deals you a **** hand!
More info on this thread if you guys are interested.
https://www.scoobynet.com/1041800-s204-2.html
PS. You will not import a S204, or S203 for anywhere near 16k! This will be the auction price. An equivalent car to mine, similar miles etc will be 2 million YEN absolute minimum at auction, probably a bit more now. This equates to over 23k landed before servicing, registration etc.
17 January 2017, 08:46 PM
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Cannon, it's not legend, S203/S204 DO have blueprinted engines.
I read this in the STi site a long time ago.
I am sure Don will be able to help
Edit: found link: http://sti.jp/s204/technicalnote/engine.html
"Similarly to S203, adopting a dedicated large-diameter twin scroll turbo (ball bearing) realized a sense of power in the medium and high speed range without sacrificing low speed range. Especially emphasis on transient characteristics, we picked up a fancy pickup from low speed and demonstrated high torque throughout. As a result of paying attention to the acceleration feeling obtained by accelerator on from the sixth cruise, the peak torque increased as compared with S203. In addition, weight balance adjustment was applied to the inner parts of the rotating parts of the engine, realizing a comfortable rise feeling feeling.
In order to equalize the weight of the piston and the connecting rod, it weighs and selects manually. The crankshaft re-weighs the balance amount of the manufactured crank and adjusts and finishes it manually. As a result, it is possible to obtain a pleasant smooth engine rotation and to improve the durability during continuous high load operation.
This is the same content as the motor sports engine assembled by STI. "
By the way these cars run a sports catalyst from factory it seems so all they need is a UK map.
"While maintaining the exhaust gas purification performance, the ventilation resistance of the catalyst main body is reduced and the exhaust efficiency is improved."
I read this in the STi site a long time ago.
I am sure Don will be able to help
Edit: found link: http://sti.jp/s204/technicalnote/engine.html
"Similarly to S203, adopting a dedicated large-diameter twin scroll turbo (ball bearing) realized a sense of power in the medium and high speed range without sacrificing low speed range. Especially emphasis on transient characteristics, we picked up a fancy pickup from low speed and demonstrated high torque throughout. As a result of paying attention to the acceleration feeling obtained by accelerator on from the sixth cruise, the peak torque increased as compared with S203. In addition, weight balance adjustment was applied to the inner parts of the rotating parts of the engine, realizing a comfortable rise feeling feeling.
In order to equalize the weight of the piston and the connecting rod, it weighs and selects manually. The crankshaft re-weighs the balance amount of the manufactured crank and adjusts and finishes it manually. As a result, it is possible to obtain a pleasant smooth engine rotation and to improve the durability during continuous high load operation.
This is the same content as the motor sports engine assembled by STI. "
By the way these cars run a sports catalyst from factory it seems so all they need is a UK map.
"While maintaining the exhaust gas purification performance, the ventilation resistance of the catalyst main body is reduced and the exhaust efficiency is improved."
All this says is the bottom end is balanced from factory, any decent engine builder should be able to balance an engine anyway so wouldnt make any difference imo as long as it was done after rebuild.
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