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Old 26 November 2014, 02:16 PM
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Are people saying that a standard jdm wrx is faster than a standard jdm sti? Doesn't make much sense
Old 26 November 2014, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
micky has a jdm wrx classic, you have a uk spec wrx with an sti spoiler plonked on the rear to try and convince people you could afford the proper version
You mean the slower, heavier version which doesn't even have the common decency to give us better economy or usable 1st-2nd gears?

Lol. I'm only messing guys.
Old 26 November 2014, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by APIDavid
Quote " The 6 speed at 450, is heavy, responsible for significant transmission loss and is bordering on unusable in 1st and 2nd gear. "

Hang on a minute! 1st & 2nd are exactly the same ratios on a JDM 6 speed as a UK / Euro 6 speed.

So all 6 speeders are rubbish in 1st and 2nd ??
he tries to claim again and again the 5 speed is the best gearbox, i think this is his point.

i would bother trying to argue he is on crack, what do you know about engines and gearboxes anyway david
Old 26 November 2014, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
Lol. I'm only messing guys.
The trouble is Matt, it's hard to tell.
With respect, much of what you say doesn't come across as either funny or sarcastic, merely stupid and ill-informed.
Old 26 November 2014, 02:18 PM
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Yeah!! OK, maybe we'll all give up and leave him alone.
Old 26 November 2014, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by lloydsound
Are people saying that a standard jdm wrx is faster than a standard jdm sti? Doesn't make much sense
Not much in it stock acceleration wise, at the same power levels - no contest. At increased same power levels - utterly humiliating for the STI.

Not my opinion, don't shoot the messenger, just facts after comparing copious amounts of time-slips/drag race footage.

My 330bhp WRX 12.6
fat-thomas 430bhp STI 12.8

My 0-60 foot 1.884
Big Arfs old 700bhp car 0-60 foot 1.986
Old 26 November 2014, 02:25 PM
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Matt next time you're round specky's with your sooper dooper wrx, drop me a message I want to see how my slow jdm type r fairs against it, will bring my camera to verify how much you leave me by
Old 26 November 2014, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by banny sti
Matt next time you're round specky's with your sooper dooper wrx, drop me a message I want to see how my slow jdm type r fairs against it, will bring my camera to verify how much you leave me by
Can't I just borrow yours for a few hours and do a youtube SUBARUWRXFAN type review?
Old 26 November 2014, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
Not much in it stock acceleration wise, at the same power levels - no contest. At increased same power levels - utterly humiliating for the STI.

Not my opinion, don't shoot the messenger, just facts after comparing copious amounts of time-slips/drag race footage.

My 330bhp WRX 12.6
fat-thomas 430bhp STI 12.8

My 0-60 foot 1.884
Big Arfs old 700bhp car 0-60 foot 1.986
when did i do a 12.8 at 430 bhp ive only ever run the strip twice and both times with a passenger and when did i say i had 430 bhp. lol you are seriously deluded with sti envy
Old 26 November 2014, 02:30 PM
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Old 26 November 2014, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
Can't I just borrow yours for a few hours and do a youtube SUBARUWRXFAN type review?
Sure if you leave me £7k before you take it....
Old 26 November 2014, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
when did i do a 12.8 at 430 bhp ive only ever run the strip twice and both times with a passenger and when did i say i had 430 bhp. lol you are seriously deluded with sti envy
June 2012 @Pod, I was there, I talked to you too, the lad with the Wildcats baseball cap who talked about the front spats?
Old 26 November 2014, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by banny sti
Sure if you leave me £7k before you take it....
Bit OT, but does it spin in the first 4 gears? I think Tim once told me Brina 2 span in a few of the gears at speed but I think he had the trusty 5 speed.
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
A stock 240bhp JDM WRX v stock 280bhp JDM STI would certainly be interesting on the track and strip. The short rations are very useful for the heavy STI at these levels. Start increasing power levels and it gets really interesting. Don't forget a JDM WRX has AVCS heads, no up-pipe cat, less weight and a TD04 turbo so out of tight corners it could be f**K*ng sensational. An STI owner will always have to stay ahead of the game though as a 280bhp JDM WRX will skin a stock STI on the track. Power at the wheels, spool and car weight will strongly favour the WRX. It's well known that the 2009 WRX WRX was a bit of an embarrassment for Subaru as it was considerably faster then the 2009 STI, I expect many models through the years were. I also expect the brilliant Newage JDM WRX is still an unknown quantity in 2014 due to STI snobbery and good Subaru marketing.

You have 2 options, buy an STI map it to 350 and pay a few hundred converting to a 5 speed - this is contentious but crucial. This in my experience is like adding 100 shot of NOS. The 6 speed at 450, is heavy, responsible for significant transmission loss and is bordering on unusable in 1st and 2nd gear. (I've posted enough revealing 1/4 times on here to not have to prove it further.)

Or buy a JDM WRX and get the aftermarket/STI bits you need to hit 350.

I suppose both WRX/STI options require TBE/fuel pump so it just leaves the need for a £300 VF35/VF34 OR £50-100 TD05 and £100 Pinks.


No body in their right mind is going to put some crappy non dccd 5 speed in place of the superior 6 speed

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Old 26 November 2014, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
Bit OT, but does it spin in the first 4 gears? I think Tim once told me Brina 2 span in a few of the gears at speed but I think he had the trusty 5 speed.
The wheels alone are worth more than your entire engine and drivetrain so no not that OT, its only running 330ish on the standard dccd 5 speed box so no it puts it power down properly...
Old 26 November 2014, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by joe v3sti
No body in their right mind is going to put some crappy non dccd 5 speed in place of the superior 6 speed

Joe
It'd be the first thing I do. It'd be an undeniable like for like step in getting a 350 Imp to 450 without huge costs, obviously if one was to venture beyond 500 then I'd be looking at an alternative (on top of the forging/syvecs/headers etc) to the 6 anyway as I like launching.

That's just for my driving style and budget though. **** me don't go out and put a 5 speed in your 410bhp STI. It's just an observation over the years that the 5 speed or equivalent is a bloody good way of cheating.
Old 26 November 2014, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
June 2012 @Pod, I was there, I talked to you too, the lad with the Wildcats baseball cap who talked about the front spats?
about as believable as most of your posts to be fair.
Old 26 November 2014, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by banny sti
The wheels alone are worth more than your entire engine and drivetrain so no not that OT, its only running 330ish on the standard dccd 5 speed box so no it puts it power down properly...
Like I say, the WRX/STI ratios are beneficial up to a point.

I'd like to compare some time Banny, I'm guessing you could push 11's if driving aggressively?
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
about as believable as most of your posts to be fair.
TY!

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=tubbytommy+12.8
Old 26 November 2014, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
MLR no old wrxs there
Old 26 November 2014, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
i go and watch at santa pod quite often on rwyb days as its local to me.
most standard wrxs run in the 14's and standard stis in the 13's.
you need over 400 bhp to get into the 12's in an impreza.
Interesting.

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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
MLR no old wrxs there
I'm there, I used to own an Evo believe it or not. My WRX with only 240bhp owned it too.
Old 26 November 2014, 02:59 PM
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I have a close ratios Ra 5 speed in my Ra and love it. But there is no denying that the JDM dccd 6 speed I went for is an upgrade
Old 26 November 2014, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
I'm there, I used to own an Evo believe it or not. My WRX with only 240bhp owned it too.
troll on dude!
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Originally Posted by joe v3sti
I have a close ratios Ra 5 speed in my Ra and love it. But there is no denying that the JDM dccd 6 speed I went for is an upgrade
TBH I hate 1-2 gears on the 6 and 3-4 on the 5. Can't win! I've nearly totaled the back of 2 local RS4's in 2nd gear but then got left standing by Clio Sports in 3rd gear.

It's frustrating tbh. 5 is great for lights but miserable for rolling starts, It's vice versa with the 6.

I read the early wrx? 5 speeds have perfect ratios but I guess they are rusty or hard to find now.
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key word is standard... your wrx runs an sti turbo
also pod is a proper drag strip with a proper sticky surface which makes launching without bogging down an art in 4wd
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
troll on dude!
It's true!!!! How many times do I have to prove you lot wrong lol

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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
when did i do a 12.8 at 430 bhp ive only ever run the strip twice and both times with a passenger and when did i say i had 430 bhp. lol you are seriously deluded with sti envy
Without being rude 'Fat Thomas', Maybe you are personally carrying rather more weight than our alien friend.? Just a few kilo's will affect the 60 ft times and an extra passenger will be a liability, more than .2 of a second as well.

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Originally Posted by APIDavid
Without being rude 'Fat Thomas', Maybe you are personally carrying rather more weight than our alien friend.? Just a few kilo's will affect the 60 ft times and an extra passenger will be a liability, more than .2 of a second as well.

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possibly lol
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
key word is standard... your wrx runs an sti turbo
also pod is a proper drag strip with a proper sticky surface which makes launching without bogging down an art in 4wd
Wasn't the TD05 fitted to most pre 97 UK, Euro and WRX cars?

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