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cster 18 February 2014 06:55 PM

Why do people with dogs -
 
keep them when they have a baby/small child?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-s...wales-26242506
Not too sure on the details, so maybe being a bit unfair here, but there is a line at the end that really bothers me.
"She'd only brought the baby home in the last week. It is just awful - they loved their dogs as much as their children," she added.

Chip 18 February 2014 06:59 PM

We'll have all the "it's the owners fault" comments soon. Idiots!

Terribly sad, a 6 day old baby this time. How many more?

bustaMOVEs 18 February 2014 07:07 PM

Well I have a rottewieller and had a daughter over a year ago, does that mean I'm the same?

LVC 18 February 2014 07:08 PM

Very sad and very strange - a Malamute is anything other than a dangerous dog (I had one and my ex-wife still has one) - very strong and not small but a breed known for being very docile and very good with kids, something not quite right here me thinks?????

LVC 18 February 2014 07:19 PM

This ....

"Mrs Punter said Ms John's partner Patrick Mullane had brought the Alaskan Malamute called Nisha home from a night out at the pub".

and this .....

"Alaskan Malamutes can make wonderful family pets but their rapid increase in popularity has largely been fuelled by fashion, with too many people failing to do their research and or to understand the amount of exercise that this breed requires."

and I'm seeing a terrace house with undoubtedly a small garden.

F*cking idiots keeping a dog that lives to run in a small property. Mine used to pull old car tyres on chains through the woods to keep him in top condition. Takes 6 huskies to pull a sled or 1 Malamute - this breed needs a lot of exercise and space.

bustaMOVEs 18 February 2014 07:30 PM

It's not the breed, it's the owners that don't take the reponsabilities in making the house safe for the 'what if' situations like when popping to the loo, taking the bins out etc thinking they'll be fine together for a minute type sinarios.
And that's all it takes (even though your dog is safe, you just can't be sure) better to be safe than sorry.

nik52wrx 18 February 2014 07:45 PM

Are you implying when a baby comes along the dog must go?

As for this story, bringing home a strong mature dog back from the pub beggars belief. If this is the case though, the owners are 100% responsible and should be dealt with accordingly.




Originally Posted by cster (Post 11357270)
keep them when they have a baby/small child?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-s...wales-26242506
Not too sure on the details, so maybe being a bit unfair here, but there is a line at the end that really bothers me.
"She'd only brought the baby home in the last week. It is just awful - they loved their dogs as much as their children," she added.


pflowers 18 February 2014 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs (Post 11357326)
It's not the breed, it's the owners that don't take the reponsabilities in making the house safe for the 'what if' situations like when popping to the loo, taking the bins out etc thinking they'll be fine together for a minute type sinarios.
And that's all it takes (even though your dog is safe, you just can't be sure) better to be safe than sorry.

Agree 100%

f1_fan 18 February 2014 08:05 PM

FFS get a cat and move on :thumb:

LVC 18 February 2014 08:09 PM

Is the owner of a dog that causes death from mauling etc. charged with manslaughter (or whatever the correct legal term is) in the UK?

nik52wrx 18 February 2014 08:14 PM

It would appear so.

http://news.sky.com/story/1210228/ba...ul-little-girl

Another irresponsible owner.




Originally Posted by LVC (Post 11357379)
Is the owner of a dog that causes death from mauling etc. charged with manslaughter (or whatever the correct legal term is) in the UK?


bustaMOVEs 18 February 2014 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by f1_fan (Post 11357372)
FFS get a cat and move on :thumb:

Got one of them too, and it's the bo55 in my house :thumb:

pflowers 18 February 2014 08:18 PM


Originally Posted by LVC (Post 11357379)
Is the owner of a dog that causes death from mauling etc. charged with manslaughter (or whatever the correct legal term is) in the UK?

I don't think so, neglect possibly but not manslaughter.

Turbohot 18 February 2014 08:21 PM


Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs (Post 11357403)
Got one of them too, and it's the bo55 in my house :thumb:

Is bo55 a number plate on your cat? :D

pflowers 18 February 2014 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by nik52wrx (Post 11357397)
It would appear so.

http://news.sky.com/story/1210228/ba...ul-little-girl

Another irresponsible owner.

I stand corrected ;)

LVC 18 February 2014 08:40 PM


Originally Posted by nik52wrx (Post 11357397)
It would appear so.

http://news.sky.com/story/1210228/ba...ul-little-girl

Another irresponsible owner.

Thanks for the reply. I do hope that it sticks in their case.

People should know and understand the responsibility and possible legal implications that go along with owning a potentially lethal weapon - probably not going to change the idiots owning four legged status symbols but might at least see some justice (unfortunately often after the sad event).

bustaMOVEs 18 February 2014 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by Turbohot (Post 11357407)
Is bo55 a number plate on your cat? :D

No, It's what the chip reads inside him :thumb:

deanb1980 18 February 2014 08:50 PM

i had a staffie and had my daughter who is now 10 and my son who is 2 and the one thing that was guaranteed was that he would never of touched them ever if anything no one could get near them unless me or my wife were there never believe its the dogs fault its a pack animal very simple rules the pack leader brings the new family member to the dog and shows them the new member of the pack the dog knows where he stands and knows he is to protect fail to do this and this is what happens

RA Dunk 18 February 2014 09:04 PM

It's never the dogs fault is it.

Turbohot 18 February 2014 09:08 PM


Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs (Post 11357448)
No, It's what the chip reads inside him :thumb:


I'd have it on the show; engraved on a dangly gold plated tag around your cat's neck. I'm going to get L4DY1 and F4TL0RD2 tags engraves for my cats. :cool:

cookstar 18 February 2014 09:10 PM


Originally Posted by deanb1980 (Post 11357454)
i had a staffie and had my daughter who is now 10 and my son who is 2 and the one thing that was guaranteed was that he would never of touched them ever if anything no one could get near them unless me or my wife were there never believe its the dogs fault its a pack animal very simple rules the pack leader brings the new family member to the dog and shows them the new member of the pack the dog knows where he stands and knows he is to protect fail to do this and this is what happens


You can not guarantee anything when animals are involved.

pimmo2000 18 February 2014 09:16 PM


Originally Posted by Chip (Post 11357278)
We'll have all the "it's the owners fault" comments soon. Idiots!

Terribly sad, a 6 day old baby this time. How many more?

No you're right, the owners aren't at fault here, it's the animal .. poor, poor owners.

:rolleyes:

bustaMOVEs 18 February 2014 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by Turbohot (Post 11357489)
I'd have it on the show; engraved on a dangly gold plated tag around your cat's neck. I'm going to get L4DY1 and F4TL0RD2 tags engraves for my cats. :cool:

Lol but then he'd be in the chav status and I can't have that, besides we don't have collars round his neck incase he gets stuck somewhere when he's out in the jungle :)

Turbohot 18 February 2014 09:25 PM


Originally Posted by cookstar (Post 11357490)
You can not guarantee anything when animals are involved.

Wise words. :thumb:

Yet if the owner is vigilant and on the ball with his/her authority, unpredictable animal can be controlled.

Mind you, nothing can be guaranteed when humans are involved, either. Most deceiving, unpredictable and back-stabbing species on this earth, even when God spared it with an extra brain cell.

Controlling human by human has proven to be more challenging than controlling animal by human. No wonder some would rather befriend dogs, and eat their fellow humans.

f1_fan 18 February 2014 09:25 PM

The elephant in the room is that it basically defies commion sense to expose young kids to an animal that 'could' maim or kill them.

I am sure everyone whose dog has done this thought they were the loveable 'oh he/she would never hurt a fly' type!

Sorry but it's a crazy thing to do... end of!

Turbohot 18 February 2014 09:33 PM


Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs (Post 11357518)
Lol but then he'd be in the chav status and I can't have that, besides we don't have collars round his neck incase he gets stuck somewhere when he's out in the jungle :)

Awww. No, you can't have your cutie cat stuck in the jungle, no way. :luvlove:

LOL @ chav status. :lol1:

bustaMOVEs 18 February 2014 09:36 PM


Originally Posted by Turbohot (Post 11357530)
LOL @ chav status. :lol1:

Well I wouldn't want to announce it on snet that's for sure, I'd get a right royal bumming :lol1:

hodgy0_2 18 February 2014 09:47 PM

Yes the level of anthropomorphism in current culture is astounding

We have a cat, we all (wife and 5 kids) adore her, Delilah, dilly, the dilster - she is part of the family - we "love" her

But she is a cat - and not worth a trillionth of one of of my children's lives

Anyone who would put an animal on a level with their kids, does not deserve to have kids - IMO

ScoobyDoo555 18 February 2014 09:54 PM

yup agreed with above.
I've got 2 kids, always had dogs - granted cocker spaniels and Labradors.

Whilst I love my dogs, I love my kids and family more. If push came to shove, bye bye pooch. It would break my heart, but humans come first.

As for cats, toxoplasmosis is a rather unpleasant aspect of feline-ownership. Can cause serious issues for babies. Wouldn't wish ill-harm on a cat, but certainly wouldn't have one of those feckers in my house. Not a "cat" person at all.

stipete75 18 February 2014 10:09 PM


Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs (Post 11357326)
It's not the breed, it's the owners that don't take the reponsabilities in making the house safe for the 'what if' situations like when popping to the loo, taking the bins out etc thinking they'll be fine together for a minute type sinarios.
And that's all it takes (even though your dog is safe, you just can't be sure) better to be safe than sorry.

^^^^^^^^^^spot on^^^^^^^^^^^
It's the deed not the breed!!
I have Rottweilers and 3 children.
I do trust all my dogs impeccably but I am responsible enough not to leave my children alone with any of the dogs, not even for a minute.
Our dogs are caged every night and walked and fussed regularly.
As mentioned earlier I also love my dogs to bits, they are a big part of the family but if I saw any hint of aggression from any of them,they would be gone. Simple.


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