BLACK 500 BHP CLASSIC
 

HAS ANYONE SEEN THE BLACK 96 CLASSIC 500 BHP WITH THE TWISTED KIT ON EBAY, HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK ITS WORTH THINKING OF MAKING A OFFER, :luxhello:

Post up a link fella as there are a lot of Scoobs on Ebay.:thumb:

Must be Still running a 5speed?

link?

Expensive for what it is, needs 6 speed and brakes. Advert is pretty poor tbh!

engine is just a 2.0?

Got mine with alot higher spec etc for less than that.

Project thread

http://www.wyscoobs.com/brina-2-t406.html

I don't think it looks too bad....maybe worth an offer.

Says in add he has a 6 speed available.

Nothing wrong with a 2.0

Brakes will be fine with decent pads...

Doesn't look to bad to me. A cheeky offer and a cheap deal on the 6 speed could be possible depending how bad he wants rid.

yeah but he is wanting top dollar for the car the 6sp should be included, and the 4pots are just rubbish, never felt safe in a fast car with those on. Typical ill thought through modifying, go for massive power and then realise you should have upgraded the brakes, gearbox and suspension first!

Looks like standard shocks to me too? Wouldnt want to be driving a 500hp car on standard shocks and brakes if im honest

Too much for me to part with but not wildly overpriced.

I wouldn't want a 500hp classic on the road fullstop....

4 pot brembos can work fine with correct pads and discs....especially on the lighter classic.

And no I dont have brembos on mine....:)

I still say its worth a cheeky offer ....

Obviously thats your opinion ;)

Personally i got a better car with higher spec for less money, and there is better out there than that one!

There aren't that many genuine 500 Hp cars out there for sale are there ?

if you desperately want 500hp you will wait for the right one or buy one similar and make it up to tht spec, i dont see the point in shelling out for a 7.2k car then spending another 2 - 3k on brakes and gearbox etc!

Whats the spec of yours out of interest fella ??

would rather have this for the money if i am honest....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/IMPREZA-RB...item3f28c0b618


The spec of mine? check my project thread :)

Show me a genuine 500 bhp car for less than 7k


Inc a syvecs , a built engine, rotated pipework, turbo etc...and then it needs a 6 speed, suspension and brakes....

:)

P.s I havent said the above car is worth what the owner wants for it....just that it may be worth an offer.

and mine is a genuine 500hp car for less than 7k ;) and already has the 6sp, brakes and rotated etc

Cool..can I buy it ?


The rb5 is nice.....and worth its money.

Would rather have the sorted rb5 and slightly less power because it will piss all over the black one all dya long.

Was looking at the dyno graph on that black one too, no power until like 5-5.5k, must be a pig to drive. I have to say it just doesnt seem like a very well thought out car.

Maybe not....I would ruin the rb5 .. lol..

Your manifold in projects looks quality....are they expensive ?

I opted for rcm equal length after cracked gt spec unequals.

Looking at 1k before shipping and import taxes, along with the 2.5 sump etc and fiting all that together and modifiying the standard oil cooler!

And the remap, not cheap in the slightest, but its ot this crap 304 stainless that rcm use its titanium steel, life time guaruntee etc and if I'm honest, the power figures speak for themselves!

The rcm stainless is fine for my application....only needed a twinscroll sump to fit and with over 100 launches 3/4 of a year competitive sprints and a few high speed offs it seems to be holding up well.

Manifold looks good though... maybe worth looking into for me.

It is better than the rcm stuff as isnt a copy of an old/standard twin scroll design and has cad drawings and flow calculations etc. The fact i made 35hp more on low boost after 20k miles and 4 years since initial build shows how good it is!

304 stainless will break, turbo cars exceed the heat limit of 304 and and it becomes brittle and cracks, 321 wont do that

It should be better as costs more.

The design of the unequal length headers at the collector is the main reason for failing not the grade of material in my understanding.

The equal length design addresses this problem.

I did look into having some inconel headers made for the ultimate product...;)


What was the increase in torque ?

Would be nice to test them back to back and not 4 years apart.

cheers lads so whats it worth im thinkin around 45 or sumet, as he is askin a bit much .

That is not correct, the heat range of 304 stainless is exceeded on turbo cars, this is why it goes brittle and cracks. The collector might not help, but the main reason is it is an inadequate material for turbo charged applications.

look here - http://www.killerbmotorsport.com/index_files/Header.htm

I believe martyn saw 520ft/lb of torque at one point in the mapping, i am unsure though as i dont have the graphs to hand. Iam out of the efficiency range of my cams so the torque drops away rapidly at the top end.

Well back to back or not it is kind of irrelevant, the engine will have only lost power over 4 years and 20k miles, so the fact it made more after all the abuse it has had when the peak figure should be highest on the first map shows you all you need to know!