How is it red bull and vettel are so quick?
How is it possible vettel can lead from pole and pull away a second or more a lap against Hamilton who's no rookie.
Aerodynamics , tyres or other secret measures like map tweaks or tranction control done by engine mapping. |
Think it's down to car set up. They set their cars for corners not straight line speed.
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Its the car not the driver. He just has the better car.
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Agreed its a way better car than anything else on the grid, Even Lewis said vettel a had the best car for the last 3 years :D
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Adrian newey red bulls aerodynamicist is a genius. There cars are brilliant in long fast corners and clear air. Vettel gets pole and pulls away in clear air. Everyone else is in dirty air so there tyres wear faster and they lose down force being in the pack. Notice how the red bull isn't as strong when they start from lower down (apart from abu dhabi last year). Don't get me wrong vettels up there as a driver but he's no god like he's made out to be :)
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
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Its the car not the driver. He just has the better car.
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Never mind the fact that he's running in clean air and not having to fight for position.
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It's partly due to the car and partly to Vettel. He is possibly the best driver on the grid at least up there with Alonso and Hamilton. I still think he has the best car though.
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Adrian Newey
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Unfortunately the vettel/Newey combo just works! I'm a mclaren/Hamilton fan myself and I'd argue that in terms of raw speed Hamilton is the fastest driver at present... Throw in technicality and Alonso is probably the quickest... But vettel does arguably have the best all-round car package at the moment!
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Originally Posted by urban
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Don't think that's quite the whole story if you bring Webber into the equation.
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Hang on............this is SUBARU related because...........?
Mods, move this to the crap forum please.......... :D |
Originally Posted by MattyB1983
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Vettel is a very very good driver in the best car. Its a great combination that just works. Webber just aint as quick, simple as that really.
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Vettles good driver, is he as good as ham and the likes? mmm, dunno, tends ot be best car wins now adays, not best driver
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I wander if the introduction of the v6 turbo engine in 2014 will stir things up for red bull , I too believe Adrian newey provides the advantage although Mercedes seem to be closing the gap.
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Red bull give you wings.
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Originally Posted by urban
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i.e its not just the car?
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As much as I don't like him, I think Alonso is the best driver.
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Originally Posted by AndyBaker
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Adrian Newey
The guy is an absolute legend. |
How come Hamilton was on pole in Germany but both red bulls had him at the start ?
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Originally Posted by STEVEBOXER
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How come Hamilton was on pole in Germany but both red bulls had him at the start ?
Quicker. |
Originally Posted by STEVEBOXER
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How come Hamilton was on pole in Germany but both red bulls had him at the start ?
Because the Merc's tyres are slipping and sliding more in the heat they wear quicker and as well as having less pace than some they need to change them earlier. It's been their Achilles heel for 3 years, but they do now seem to have a better car in colder temperatures now which is why they could win at Silverstonre. Also at the weelend Pirelli introduced new tyres with a Kevlar band as opposed to steel and I think these suited the Red Bulls and Lotus cars more than the Mercs. Red Bull have produced another superb all round package that if the tyres weren't limiting the cars so much would be even further ahead in my opnion, but they also have Vettel who is a top driver... it's not just the car. Put a metronomic teutonic talented German in the best car in F1 and we all know what happens. Arguably Alonso and Hamilton are better drivers, but not by much and not by enough to make up the gap between their machinery and the Bulls over the course of a season. Next year it all changes and Ferrari have Rory Byrne back int heir design team. Everyone talks about Newey, but between 1994 and 2004 Byrne's cars won 7 WDCs and 7 WCCs.... a lot more than Newey in the same time span. Next year's Ferrari could be the car to watch and with Alosno in the cockpit who knows what could happen! |
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