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Felton 26 May 2013 06:56 PM

Starting problem
 
Ok guys after some help picked up my classic import yesterday got it it was fine on a long run then turned off and went to go and start it again and it wouldn't start then again today went on about a 15 mile trip turned off went into the shop come out then wouldn't start again but if I go on a really short trip it will start fine I've used the search and carnt find anything and I don't know what to look for cheers for any help guys

Felton 26 May 2013 09:46 PM

Any one ? Plz help

Legacy GT-B 26 May 2013 09:48 PM

does it turn over when it wont start

Felton 26 May 2013 09:51 PM

Yes mate it just won't kick in if you know what I mean mate then you just get a huge smell of fuel

Legacy GT-B 26 May 2013 10:01 PM

possibly a cam or crank sensor failing once their hot does the check engine light come on

check the fault codes


Ensure ignition switched OFF.
Connect engine diagnostic link connectors (black) Fig.1.1.
Switch ignition ON. DO NOT start engine.
Check that MIL illuminates.
Count MIL flashes. Note trouble codes. Compare with trouble code table.
Trouble codes are indicated as follows:
Long flashes indicate the 'tens' of the trouble code Fig.2.A.
Short flashes indicate the 'units' of the trouble code Fig.2.B.
A short pause separates each flash Fig.2.C.
A long pause separates each trouble code.
For example: Trouble code displayed: 24. Idle air control (IAC) valve Fig.2.
Switch ignition OFF.
Disconnect engine diagnostic link connectors (black) Fig.1.1.

Legacy GT-B 26 May 2013 10:02 PM

Trouble code Fault location Probable cause
11111 No fault found -
11 Crankshaft position (CKP) sensor - circuit malfunction Wiring, CKP sensor, ECM
12 Starter switch - signal malfunction Wiring, starter switch
13 Camshaft position (CMP) sensor - signal malfunction Wiring, CMP sensor, ECM
14 Injector 1 - circuit malfunction Wiring, injector, ECM
15 Injector 2 - circuit malfunction Wiring, injector, ECM
16 Injector 3 - circuit malfunction Wiring, injector, ECM
17 Injector 4 - circuit malfunction Wiring, injector, ECM
21 Engine coolant temperature (ECT) sensor - signal malfunction Wiring, ECT sensor, ECM
22 Knock sensor (KS) 1, RH - circuit malfunction Wiring, knock sensor (KS), ECM
23 Mass air flow (MAF) sensor - circuit malfunction Wiring, MAF sensor, ECM
24 Idle air control (IAC) valve - circuit malfunction Wiring, IAC valve, ECM
31 Throttle position (TP) sensor - signal malfunction Wiring, TP sensor, ECM
32 Heated oxygen sensor (HO2S) 1, RH - circuit malfunction Wiring, HO2S, ECM
33 Vehicle speed sensor (VSS) - signal malfunction Wiring, VSS, ECM
35 Evaporative emission (EVAP) canister purge valve - circuit malfunction Wiring, EVAP canister purge valve, ECM
38 Engine torque control - no signal Wiring, ECM/TCM
42 Closed throttle position (CTP) switch - circuit malfunction Wiring, CTP switch, ECM
44 Turbocharger (TC) wastegate regulating valve - circuit malfunction Wiring, TC wastegate regulating valve, ECM
45 Manifold absolute pressure (MAP) sensor/MAP sensor control valve - circuit malfunction Wiring, MAP sensor, ECM
49 CO adjustment resistor, without CAT - signal malfunction Wiring, CO adjustment resistor, ECM
51 Neutral position (NP) switch (MT) - circuit malfunction Wiring, NP switch, ECM

Legacy GT-B 26 May 2013 10:06 PM

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Jolly Green Monster 26 May 2013 10:13 PM

Cam or crank sensor.. if you remove and clean them they should be fine again for a bit..

Simon

Felton 26 May 2013 10:18 PM

Thanks gona sound really stupid but I'm not use to these engines yet where abouts are they located ?

Legacy GT-B 26 May 2013 10:22 PM

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Jolly Green Monster 26 May 2013 10:24 PM

no stupid at all.

cam sensor is below oil filler neck with a 10mm headed bolt holding it on and an electrical plug with 2wires.. unplug, undo bolt and slide it up and clean the barrel/cylinder part that was within the engine.. crank sensor is the same looks wise only under the alternator amongst the belt, just above cam covers.

Simon

Jolly Green Monster 26 May 2013 10:24 PM


Originally Posted by Legacy GT-B (Post 11101404)

beaten to it :)

Felton 26 May 2013 10:27 PM

Cheers mate that has been a great help will have to check them in the mornin thank you both so much could have saved my bacon with the wife :)

Felton 26 May 2013 10:30 PM

Any idea what's best to clean them with ?

Legacy GT-B 26 May 2013 10:37 PM

Just a rag will do they are magnetic so you will just be removing any build up of crap

Felton 26 May 2013 10:38 PM

Thank you guys you have been very helpfull :)

Jolly Green Monster 26 May 2013 10:41 PM

brake cleaner / wd40 and a rag.. it will just be general grud...


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