IRA - The Boston connection
The IRA caused 112 civilian deaths and 863 injuries as a result of their bombing campaign (over 30 separate incidents) in England during the 70's 80's and 90's.
This terrorism was funded in part by Irish sympathisers in Boston in the good old USA. Collection boxes were freely thrust into your face for contributions destined to fund terrorism in the UK-Not a place to be if you were British. |
British Army tanks and guns come to take away our sons but every man will stand behind The Men Behind the Wire....was a popular tune to sing in some US bars
Shaun |
Didn't ira source guns off of the Chechnyans?
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As above; obviously Boston has a big connection with Ireland and the potential funding of the IRA, but where do these brothers from Chechnya come into this equation?
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Originally Posted by Truss
(Post 11064621)
As above; obviously Boston has a big connection with Ireland and the potential funding of the IRA, but where do these brothers from Chechnya come into this equation?
That won't of course stop the usual suspects from flooding the internet with yet more conspiracy theory drivel, but hey-ho, that would be like asking the sun to stop shining or the wind to stop blowing ;) |
I didn't understand the original post that way, instead I thought it was noting the irony. For many years factions in the USA, such as Noraid, funded the IRA. The IRA were regarded there as freedom fighters, to be supported against the British invader regardless of the many deaths and injuries caused to innocent people, and ignoring the minor detail that Northern Ireland is itself British.
The USA has itself suffered terribly from terrorism, now again in Boston. I would guess IRA support there has dropped off somewhat. |
Originally Posted by Paben
(Post 11064738)
I didn't understand the original post that way, instead I thought it was noting the irony. For many years factions in the USA, such as Noraid, funded the IRA. The IRA were regarded there as freedom fighters, to be supported against the British invader regardless of the many deaths and injuries caused to innocent people, and ignoring the minor detail that Northern Ireland is itself British.
The USA has itself suffered terribly from terrorism, now again in Boston. I would guess IRA support there has dropped off somewhat. |
Only an 8 year old kid has probably never even heard of the IRA or 'the struggles'...
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True Zip, but as someone who lived under the fear of IRA bombing on the mainland, had myself searched in London in the 80's and heard the Manchester bomb go off it all strikes a note........
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ken-heart.html Shaun |
One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter
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Been watching Die Another Day recently?
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Originally Posted by fastmike
(Post 11065267)
One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter
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Depends on your definition of free.
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Originally Posted by Boro
(Post 11065397)
Depends on your definition of free.
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
(Post 11065478)
True, people seem to forget we the British (well namely the army) were causing havoc in Ireland long before the Irish caused havoc here. Do people tend to ignore this or just turn a blind eye to it?
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Originally Posted by Boro
(Post 11065397)
Depends on your definition of free.
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Originally Posted by GlesgaKiss
(Post 11065542)
What does that have to do with intentionally blowing up innocent people to 'send a message'?
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
(Post 11065478)
True, people seem to forget we the British (well namely the army) were causing havoc in Ireland long before the Irish caused havoc here. Do people tend to ignore this or just turn a blind eye to it?
Just why did the British Army go into Ireland? |
Originally Posted by zip106
(Post 11065592)
Causing havoc?
Just why did the British Army go into Ireland? they were initially seen as a neutral force by both sides |
Originally Posted by GlesgaKiss
(Post 11065543)
What does?
Or, do we just "think" we are? We work to buy the things we have been conditioned to want/need. Do we need to work? Do we need to have the latest gadgets, biggest house, nicest car? Personally, I think we've all been turned into wage slaves. |
Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
(Post 11065608)
ironically enough to protect the Catholic population
they were initially seen as a neutral force by both sides We can dress this up anyway we like and keep this thread going for days on end but at the end of the day two wrongs don't make a right TBH. |
Originally Posted by Boro
(Post 11065612)
As westerners, are we actually free?
Or, do we just "think" we are? We work to buy the things we have been conditioned to want/need. Do we need to work? Do we need to have the latest gadgets, biggest house, nicest car? Personally, I think we've all been turned into wage slaves. Even our freedom of speech seems to be eroding somewhat. |
Originally Posted by Einstein RA
(Post 11064749)
I think the irony was lost on everyone. I think the op was suggesting that what goes around comes around. It may not be in the best taste but there is an element of truth in it.:(
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Are they even still active? The IRA?
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The thread's back on track. Bostonians, it's not so damned amusing when the biter is bitten. Sympathy to all the innocent folk that suffered though.
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This thread makes my blood boil
Our country invaded most of the world killing raping plundering the country's and have freed most of our conquests. To say a city deserves to be bombed because some people in a city did this or that is rediculas and what do WE deserve then! |
Originally Posted by wrx9181
(Post 11065853)
This thread makes my blood boil
Our country invaded most of the world killing raping plundering the country's and have freed most of our conquests. To say a city deserves to be bombed because some people in a city did this or that is rediculas and what do WE deserve then! |
Originally Posted by wrx9181
(Post 11065853)
This thread makes my blood boil
Our country invaded most of the world killing raping plundering the country's and have freed most of our conquests. To say a city deserves to be bombed because some people in a city did this or that is rediculas and what do WE deserve then! |
Originally Posted by RA Dunk
(Post 11065823)
Are they even still active? The IRA?
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Originally Posted by ericooper
(Post 11066022)
Yes, very much so, the IRA as we knw it no, they had a cease fire in the mid 2000s, many old boys went quiet, many didnt, felt let down by seinfien and set up splinter groups, these groups have become mre popular with youngsters, splinter groups such as ONH, RIRA and i belive PIRA but in a different form to b4 are very active, even believed to colaberate now where as in the 70-90s there was a lot internal unrest.
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