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bigphilbaby 16 February 2013 03:46 PM

mmmm buyeye STi prodrive v Corsa VXR Not happy :(
 
Well since buying my car it does not feel as quick as it should be. So i asked a friend who has standard corsa vxr to help me out.
Worrying thing is rolling start and from standing still i lost :(

Before people say it driver we both race on track with our track cars and do close times. In my old astra coupe(282 BHP) i smashed corsa vxr, i could not even over take it in my scooby today.

Anyone local in newport/cwmbran area i meet up who knows there stuff.

Bloody corsa only 190 bhp and there not even that light :(

brocksta 16 February 2013 04:12 PM

If it beat you from a stand still = your car is proper f**ked.

SmileyScooby 16 February 2013 04:21 PM

Your Bugeye sti maybe an GX with a sti livery?
Or it is fooked...
Either way, a real Bugeye Sti should be doing low 5s to 60....and the Corsa VxR is in the mid 6s...so, from any angle, you should have destroyed it!
You need to get it checked out a.s.a.p!

harrisard 16 February 2013 04:22 PM

Your car must be down on power!! I haven't raced one in my current scoob which is the same as yours but have done in my pervious scoob v4 type r and it wasn't even close!!

Harri

Arkynsei 16 February 2013 04:28 PM

Would get that on a rolling road asap :|

bigphilbaby 16 February 2013 04:28 PM

It is a real STI Prodrive, it not fooked, engine sounds sweet. Got feeling it something small, why i want someone who knows these cars to have little look. Car has full subaru history, no knocking or banging nothing. not slipping or anything

leeds_182 16 February 2013 04:32 PM

As stated I'd smash it on a rolling road.

Infected by sti 16 February 2013 04:34 PM

Something adrift by there bud, don't get me wrong the corsa's are a nippy little car but shouldn't be having the legs on your Sti, no way :nono:

My mates corsa is 226bhp and to be fair goes quite well for what it is, and up against a wrx blob with just a cat back exhaust was near enough stuck to the rear of it, the scoob did edge it but not by much and that was standing start, so a rolling start may have been a different story, but that VXR has a few mods done to it and was only up against a wrx, so for your Sti to be struggling to have the legs on a less powered VXR something has to be up somewhere, not loosing boost somehow are you? Got a gauge plumbed in?

ATWRX 16 February 2013 04:47 PM

Don't Impreza's lose boost through the 'Y' pipe at times? Heard they can crack. Something is definitely not right with it tho.

Woody69 16 February 2013 04:48 PM

I know what the problem is.....Your right foot is not heavy enough!!

Launch the car at 4.5k dump the clutch and hold on for dear life....It's 4wd for gods sake you should be destroying 2wd cars in the wet or dry.

Did you leave the handbrake on? :freak3:

bigphilbaby 16 February 2013 06:08 PM

Ye left handbrake on to try make it fair, why the stupid question?, was both in 2nd at 3k and I could not over take :( think something not right :(

nick172sport 16 February 2013 06:22 PM

it dosent suprise me that a corsa vxr beatthescoob newer car lighter and more torque

Truss 16 February 2013 06:22 PM

Get it to a specialist for a check up.

yabbadoo4 16 February 2013 06:48 PM

turbo lag might be a factor no? im running 315bhp in my wagon on a td05 and it doesnt pull hard until 3300 rpm so if you were caught unaware off boost im guessing he,d get away.

harrisard 16 February 2013 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by yabbadoo4 (Post 10992921)
turbo lag might be a factor no? im running 315bhp in my wagon on a td05 and it doesnt pull hard until 3300 rpm so if you were caught unaware off boost im guessing he,d get away.

They were both in second at 3000rpm so should have left the vxr for dead I reckon!!

yabbadoo4 16 February 2013 07:01 PM

hmmmm... yeah your probably right. id scrap it.












only joking! get it along to someone competent for a check over.

frayz 16 February 2013 07:24 PM

Stock corsa vxr 162 BHP per ton
Stock 2002 STI Prodrive 179 BHP per ton

So not that much in it in the real world.

Figures quoted from performance-car-guide.co.uk.

Ginola 16 February 2013 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by frayz (Post 10992981)
Stock corsa vxr 162 BHP per ton
Stock 2002 STI Prodrive 179 BHP per ton

So not that much in it in the real world.

Figures quoted from performance-car-guide.co.uk.

2wd in the corsa/4wd in the scoob = more transmission loss too, so as frayz says very little in it in the real world.

From a standing start you should be killing the corsa off the line though.. unless your bogging down on launch etc etc.

sssssteeeee 16 February 2013 08:06 PM

check boost leaks, binding brakes can cause u to loose power and torque, id say get andy carr or bab rawle on it, they will restore any lost poke, with great effect i might add. andy carr is north, bob rawle south. bob did mine 10/10 didnt realize my car could do that. but clutch time now as standard one nearly finished. must be that extra 40 hp ontop of the already 312 and torque is up by 30 now 330. i raced the same car and a plug went on me. have to say he thrashed the life out of hes motor. couldnt keep up though. ha ha ha he did well in 1st and 2nd but 3rd i used mirror and could see headlights away in distance. id say just get a good mapper on case.

MattyB1983 16 February 2013 08:09 PM

How much boost are you making ??

Guessing you have a boost gauge fitted

chopperman 16 February 2013 08:11 PM

Sounds like old vs new to me. Bugs are quite old now and most are quite high mileage. Over the years as the mileage racks up a few horses tend to escape the stable.

Turbotits 16 February 2013 08:15 PM

Do you have an sti prodrive or an sti with ppp different performance figures. Or perhaps an sti prodrive with ppp?

snake1906 16 February 2013 08:15 PM

strange i left a corsa vxr in the mrs 207 gti the other day

MattyB1983 16 February 2013 08:20 PM

A bug sti running properly should not be losing to a corsa vxr especially from a standing start.
I would think you have a slight issue, maybe a boost leak. Check how much boost your car is making (fit a gauge if you haven't already) and then report back here.

gpssti4 16 February 2013 08:27 PM

Get your car sorted and try again. As has been said already, it has a problem.

nick172sport 16 February 2013 09:01 PM


Originally Posted by frayz (Post 10992981)
Stock corsa vxr 162 BHP per ton
Stock 2002 STI Prodrive 179 BHP per ton

So not that much in it in the real world.

Figures quoted from performance-car-guide.co.uk.

as above most modern cars will keep up or waste a scoob been there

MattyB1983 16 February 2013 09:16 PM

Corsa vxr is little over 150bhp per ton, impreza is as you say circa 180 but with alot more torque.

189bhp and 1223kg with just 170ftlb torque. Whichever way you look at it or calculate it a corsa should not be pulling away from a impreza sti of any shape or size.

Dont get me wrong, modern cars are getting very quick, especially these bloody diesels but they are also getting heavy. A bug sti is still a quick car if running well and it takes something fairly special to pull away from one and something very special to have one off the line.

nick172sport 16 February 2013 09:43 PM


Originally Posted by MattyB1983 (Post 10993160)
Corsa vxr is little over 150bhp per ton, impreza is as you say circa 180 but with alot more torque.

189bhp and 1223kg with just 170ftlb torque. Whichever way you look at it or calculate it a corsa should not be pulling away from a impreza sti of any shape or size.

Dont get me wrong, modern cars are getting very quick, especially these bloody diesels but they are also getting heavy. A bug sti is still a quick car if running well and it takes something fairly special to pull away from one and something very special to have one off the line.

i was unlucky bought a standard impreza and got wasted by most diesals im going to try a sti when i get rid off my clio then it will be a bmw or a subaru which ever is quickest 0.60 the bmw 530d will win

romford-boy 16 February 2013 09:50 PM

I don't know if my post will help this thread, but today a V8 Supercharged Range Rover every so slightly pulled away from my STI from 80 to 120ish (kph of course ;) ), the stats suggest that while he absolutely nailed me for torque I should have dropped him in a straight line. Now his Range Rover could easily have been remapped or modded, however I have found in the real world there is very little difference between sporty vehicles, where it be Focus STs, VXRs, Ranger Rover Sports, big BMWs etc etc.

Tidgy 16 February 2013 09:55 PM

my dads bug sti eats civic type r's, vxrs and vrs all the time and he runs it on 95 ron for gods sake. def sounds down on power.


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