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amego 25 January 2013 01:32 PM

Swerl marks
 
Is there a polish to counter this as I don't want to polish the car any more as the paint is getting thin ??

B0DSKI 25 January 2013 01:53 PM

You can use a polish with fillers in such as Autoglym SRP or Poorboys Blackhole which will effectively help to mask/fill the swirls before you apply a wax or sealant over the top.

Has the car ever been machine polished ? If not then I doubt very much that the clear on the car will be "Getting thin"

The only way to truly get rid of swirls is to machine polish them out and then look into why they were there in the first place. Poor wash practise is the cause of 99% of swirls in people paint.

carlstoke63 25 January 2013 02:01 PM

Swirl
 
Ive got a black scooby when the sun shines all you see is swirls I tried all sorts g3 g10 finesse maguiers autglym still couldn't get rid of them so decided to flat it down last week and respray it not finished yet but it's looking a lot better but instead of putting gold fleck in it ive gone for red flake want it to look different :cool: I think the last owner used a scourer on my car

JDM_Stig 25 January 2013 02:08 PM

might be worth signing up on Detailing world and seeing there is a member local who has a PDG/PTG and DA to help you out.
hth

amego 25 January 2013 03:42 PM

Cheers fellas I machined polished it a few times over the years found a scratch on the door and was polishing out and was going through the top coat so don't want to do it again

amego 25 January 2013 03:51 PM

Poorboyblackhole be ok on a blue paint ??

P1 LTD 25 January 2013 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by amego (Post 10960426)
Cheers fellas I machined polished it a few times over the years found a scratch on the door and was polishing out and was going through the top coat so don't want to do it again


I know what you mean done the exact same thing. Had to take it to a car body shop to sort out respray not cheap :cry:

B0DSKI 25 January 2013 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by amego (Post 10960436)
Poorboyblackhole be ok on a blue paint ??

Yeah It'll work fine on any dark colour

SRSport 26 January 2013 12:50 AM


Originally Posted by P1 LTD (Post 10960496)
I know what you mean done the exact same thing. Had to take it to a car body shop to sort out respray not cheap :cry:

Done that myself although a rattle tin from paints4u sorted me out. I thought my efforts were pretty good but there real test came when I sold it to the dealer as it was slap bang in the middle of the door panel. They looked all round the car but never noticed it.

ScoobyClaire 28 January 2013 01:22 AM


Originally Posted by B0DSKI (Post 10960316)
You can use a polish with fillers in such as Autoglym SRP or Poorboys Blackhole which will effectively help to mask/fill the swirls before you apply a wax or sealant over the top.

Has the car ever been machine polished ? If not then I doubt very much that the clear on the car will be "Getting thin"

The only way to truly get rid of swirls is to machine polish them out and then look into why they were there in the first place. Poor wash practise is the cause of 99% of swirls in people paint.

bod, poorboy's black hole is a glaze not a polish people think it is a polish on how the bottle is worded and set out. it is a bit misleading of them :nono:. my boyfriend is a detailer had the business 19 years so i tend to pick his brains quite often on the products :thumb:

check out youtube under Reflect And Protect hes got a few vids on there done many a show car and feature car in mags :thumb:

ScoobyClaire 28 January 2013 01:25 AM


Originally Posted by amego (Post 10960436)
Poorboyblackhole be ok on a blue paint ??

ok as a glaze but not a polish :nono:

JDM_Stig 28 January 2013 09:01 AM

My first question is how are you washing the car,
what is the use of mopping the car if your washing technique is just going to cause swirls again ?

B0DSKI 28 January 2013 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by ScoobyClaire (Post 10964060)
ok as a glaze but not a polish :nono:

Hence the reason I said it would fill and mask the swirls and need a wax over the top for protection

KAS35RSTI 28 January 2013 12:22 PM

Also interested in this. Surely swirls are fine scratches in the clear coat??

Scoobydoo Ste 28 January 2013 12:26 PM

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B0DSKI 28 January 2013 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by KAS35RSTI (Post 10964370)
Also interested in this. Surely swirls are fine scratches in the clear coat??


They are exactly that Kas

Hence the only real way to get rid of them is to machine polish them out. A car has only a certain thickness of clearcoat and if It's as the OP says and he's polished it a good few times and is running the risk of going through the clear then he's little choice but to use a Polish or glaze which effectively fills those scratches in before adding a layer ot protection over the top.

Not the best way to go about it but if you're left with too little clearcoat then not much other choise.

A paint depth guage is the best way of seeing how much paint it left, although this wouldn't be able to differentiate between clearcoat and the paint underneath

JDM_Stig 28 January 2013 12:51 PM

tbh with a DA on scooby paint you would have to be Very Aggressive to do damage,
even with a rotary you have to be a bit of a donkey, again on detailing world there are many videos where people have held a rotary on a old panel to show you just how long it takes to burn thru,
as I mentioned earlier with a PTG/PDG you will know what your playing with,
with the correct pad and product you can correct the soft CC on subaru`s in a few minutes.


B0DSKI 28 January 2013 01:59 PM

Agree with the above 100% I've been gradually doing my car panel by panel with a DAS6 Pro, Hex Logic Pads and a selection of different grade Menzerna Polishes to get each panel 100% before moving onto the next.

You'd really have to be going some to do damage to Subaru paint which is lovely to work on with it being relatively hard and once corrected gives an amazing shine and depth.

KAS35RSTI 28 January 2013 02:03 PM

Boyd you can use my car as a Demo to show your skills. Dont worry, I wont charge you ;)

B0DSKI 28 January 2013 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by KAS35RSTI (Post 10964576)
Boyd you can use my car as a Demo to show your skills. Dont worry, I wont charge you ;)

:lol1: U know where I am mate ;)

KAS35RSTI 28 January 2013 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by B0DSKI (Post 10964589)
:lol1: U know where I am mate ;)

:D:D
:king:

B0DSKI 28 January 2013 02:23 PM

Machine polished door on my STi with 100% correction as described above. Finished with FK1000P

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y88...ps3769adc8.jpg

sssssteeeee 26 February 2013 06:26 PM

use grit gaurds in bottom of bucket, and 2 bucket method, also a decent wash mit ( NOT A SPONGE ) to get rid of swirls use a polish not a wax, wax will just hi lite them, a lot of waxes in bottle have fillers to help mask swirls depending on depth level. i use poorboys black hole as polish or mezerna on a da polisher good results.


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