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cookstar 20 December 2012 04:35 PM

XR3i or Fiesta RS Turbo
 
I'm finally moving to a house with a double garage, which is giving me a serious itch to buy an oldish Ford for the odd bit of fun.

Both of these where cars I really wanted as a youth, but never got around to owning ( I did have the RS1800 and a S2 RS Turbo)

My heart is telling me to go for the XR but my brain is saying something with a turbo will be more fun...

Any thoughts guys?

I would consider other similar cars but it needs to be from the same era.

jef 20 December 2012 04:47 PM

im an 80's ford geek, i prefer the look of the old xr31, but my fav is the mk 2 xr2, i had many and were great.
im sure i remember reading the steel used for early 80s ford car was quite poor quality from spain - and hence they rotted so badly. dont know how much truth in that though.

id opt for the fiesta turbo - finding a clean one at reasonable price maybe a challange, usually rotten or concours lol

pacenote 20 December 2012 04:49 PM

Agree with the above on finding a festa

RS1600i would be my choice

walsallboy 20 December 2012 05:14 PM

I had a fiesta rs turbo for 11 years only sold it about three years ago was great fun !!

ScoobySteve69 20 December 2012 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by walsallboy (Post 10913623)
I had a fiesta rs turbo for 11 years

:eek:

stuwoac 20 December 2012 06:15 PM

mk1 fiesta with the round headlights fitted with the Panique kit lovvvly

bighead 20 December 2012 06:41 PM

Rs turbo will be more fun...watch out for the steering wheel going crazy with torque steer though

Funkii Munkii 20 December 2012 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by pacenote (Post 10913597)
Agree with the above on finding a festa

RS1600i would be my choice

Have you seen what RS1600i's go for these days :eek:

MK I XR2 for me, in Black.

scoobynutta555 20 December 2012 06:47 PM

I had an rs fiesta turbo for several years. The very definition of torque steer! Very fun car. Once you've had an rs it'd be hard to even consider an xr.

walsallboy 20 December 2012 06:52 PM

Yes thats true .! I also had a mk1 fiesta supersport and 1300sport too

serpico 20 December 2012 06:52 PM

For me it would have to be the S1 RS Turbo all day & if money can stretch the Escort Cos is the daddy.

Scooby Jo 20 December 2012 07:08 PM

I had a Mk1 XR2, a Mk2 XR2 and then two XR2i's. My husband had an XR3i, but my XR2i was far more fun. My heart is with the Mk1 though. Do invest in an alarm, my first and fourth were both stolen, from different locations :(

I'd warn against buying an old car with a turbo unless you know it's been looked after - been there, done that with a 3.0l turbo Supra and blew it up after a couple of weeks :(

Post up whatever you get, I love the old ford hot hatches, had some great fun :D

cookstar 20 December 2012 07:16 PM

I'd also love an S1 RST but funds won't allow, same for the RS1600i

I'd really like an XR3 ( non injection) but they seem very few and far between.


It's not going to be for a few months, so I have plenty of time to find the right one, Fiesta turbo is leading the way at the moment.

nik52wrx 20 December 2012 07:43 PM

I'd go for the XR3, simply because I prefer it's looks over the Fiesta.
The three spoke wheels on the Fiesta looked terrible, I think they were three???

Nik

Norman Dog 20 December 2012 07:44 PM

I used to own a Mk.1 XR3i, they were reasonably quick back in the day but the Peugeot 205 gti was still the king. :cool:

If you fancy an old fast Ford though, this is still the daddy. :notworthy

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...psf5ffe43b.jpg

Steve T 20 December 2012 07:51 PM

I used to have a 1983 Lumo 105T which was a Mk1 XR2 with a Pace Turbocharger kit fitted.It was a very basic system, oil cooled turbo and no intercooler but what a great car. I wish I still had it. Just having the carb jets drilled out and a cherry bomb exhaust it gave 140 Bhp. The standard XR2 Mk1 gave 84 Bhp. Steve;)

cookstar 20 December 2012 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by nik52wrx (Post 10913832)
I'd go for the XR3, simply because I prefer it's looks over the Fiesta.
The three spoke wheels on the Fiesta looked terrible, I think they were three???

Nik

The OE wheels on the Fiesta were terrible. :(

I'm not after a show car though so changing the wheels wouldn't be a problem.

snake1906 20 December 2012 08:30 PM

id go with the fiesta rst or the s1 you can get them for around the same money in project form

scoobynutta555 20 December 2012 08:32 PM

You can't change the wheels! I loved the three spokes. Why would anyone want an xr over an rs? I had 2 xr fiestas, a 1.6 and a 1.8, both were nothing compared to the rs, and the alloys were worse and a right pita to clean too iirc.

edsel 20 December 2012 09:01 PM

Sold this a couple of years back, 1 previous owner FSH 30k as it left the factory. Boy do I regret it! It got looks where ever it went.

The only reason someone might want a 2i over an RS is the lack of unmolested thrashed turbos.


http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/3750/dscn0506aq6.jpg

I'm selling my daily, one previous owner, low miler, fsh RS2000 if youre interested Looking for around £2k :norty:

http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/9...102101640x.jpg

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7...100201640x.jpg

MDS_WRX 20 December 2012 09:12 PM

Finance available! :norty:

http://www.ronhodgson.co.uk/ford-rs2...ashire-1519861

cookstar 20 December 2012 09:18 PM


Originally Posted by MDS_WRX (Post 10913997)

About £500 over 25 years should finance that. :lol1:

cookstar 20 December 2012 09:21 PM


Originally Posted by edsel (Post 10913975)
Sold this a couple of years back, 1 previous owner FSH 30k as it left the factory. Boy do I regret it! It got looks where ever it went.

The only reason someone might want a 2i over an RS is the lack of unmolested thrashed turbos.


http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/3750/dscn0506aq6.jpg

I'm selling my daily, one previous owner, low miler, fsh RS2000 if youre interested Looking for around £2k :norty:

http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/9...102101640x.jpg

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7...100201640x.jpg


Sorry mate, I did look at the RS2000 but it's not quite retro enough fir me if you know what I mean.

ALi-B 20 December 2012 10:01 PM

Best of both...RS1800

RQB engine out of the last of the XR3s in the shell of a MK3 Fiesta (which technically is just a shortened Mk5 Escort).

Just ditch/sortout the EECIV ECU to get rid of the flat spots.

cookstar 20 December 2012 10:15 PM


Originally Posted by ALi-B (Post 10914086)
Best of both...RS1800

RQB engine out of the last of the XR3s in the shell of a MK3 Fiesta (which technically is just a shortened Mk5 Escort).

Just ditch/sortout the EECIV ECU to get rid of the flat spots.


I had a black RS1800i loved it, so would like something I haven't had before. :)

ronjeramy 20 December 2012 10:34 PM

Cookie i had an Fiesta RS Turbo for about 3 years great cars, will pull your arms off if your not careful :D look out for rot round the fuel cap. once moving they are very quick, 135mph in a fiesta is quiet the experience :eek: :lol1: i only sold it becuase i got my first Scoob.

Pedroturbo 20 December 2012 11:39 PM

The xr3 wont have a limited slip diff! Rs turbo all day just because of that reason. The 89 to 91 models were made of german steel. Look at the vin plate you will soon no wen half of it is in german. Iv owned 3 all grey s2 rs turbo escorts. I want another one myself. Look out for rust around the spare wheel well, sunroof, battery tray, fuse box, fuel cap as mentioned, the brake servo, round the rear window seals and the inside and outside edges of boot lid. Check for damp on the carpets as its a gud indicator of the state of the floorpan, check sills aswell as they are notorious. Wiring to headlights for signs of heat wear, electric window operation as the motors Are nackered these days,

Thinking about perhaps ill stick with my scoob :)

ronjeramy 20 December 2012 11:41 PM

No LSD on the Fiesta RS turbos

cookstar 21 December 2012 06:06 AM


Originally Posted by ronjeramy (Post 10914183)
No LSD on the Fiesta RS turbos

How about the Escort?

ronjeramy 21 December 2012 07:27 PM

They had them iirc :) but they weren't as quick, different turbo and fuel injection and ecu


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