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lofty35 07 December 2012 11:23 AM

max bhp vf22 turbo please
 
Just watching a vf22 on ebay might bid on it, but just wanna know can you reach 320 bhp plus on these and do they spool up quick like the td05?
mods fmic/440s/full decat/walbro pump/3 port/ecutec jgm map.
scooby classic turbo 2000.
cheers fellas

yabbadoo4 07 December 2012 11:35 AM

bit of info i found:



VF22




This Turbo was used on the V3 Subaru Impreza WRX and has the highest potential output of all of the IHI VF turbos thus making it a good choice for the tuner who is looking for lots of top end power.
You can with a good mapper/tuner and with the correct supporting modifications achieve 17psi by 3000rpm and is well capable up to +400hp.


As with all turbos the more top end power gained results in a slower spool up (more lag).This is because the VF22 uses the larger P20 exhaust housing, This the main factor in this spool issue and is not so much suited to daily driving than some of the other options available.
Although the VF22 is the largest VF series turbo, and can take highest boost levels of all the VF range it is not quite suited for stroked blocks running high boost of more than 20psi+
The VF22 is a ball bearing turbo using 485 comp wheel and as already mentioned the P20 Turbine Housing.
460cfm at 18.0psi

Shaks-STI 07 December 2012 11:39 AM

VF22 will not get you 400, would be easier to find a VF23/24 in a better condition then VF22 and will make the power you're after.

yabbadoo4 07 December 2012 11:43 AM

just a bit of info i found here: http://wrxtypera.webs.com/imprezaturbospecs.htm not my words just wanted to pass on some info to the op. no doubt guys who have/ have had a vf 22 will be along to assist better.

yabbadoo4 07 December 2012 11:49 AM

another point is with the mods you have and a td05 you should hit around 320 bhp anyway? the 22 will be way more laggier than the 05.

lofty35 07 December 2012 11:53 AM

i havent got a td05 im on a td04, but ive been in my mates scoob thats got the td05 and spools loads quicker, so was wanting something similer, just missed out yesterday morning on a td05.
thanks guys

yabbadoo4 07 December 2012 12:02 PM

ive got similar mods on my wagon with td05 and im running 315bhp. andy forrest told me with induction and fmic the td05 can max around 340.

lofty35 07 December 2012 12:06 PM

might just wait for another td05 to some along then, just doesnt seem to be many front entry ones around.

yabbadoo4 07 December 2012 12:12 PM

just to say as well your 04 should have felt quicker than the 05 for spool as its a smaller turbo although the 05 will ultimately give more power when the 04 runs out of puff.

yabbadoo4 07 December 2012 12:14 PM

im sure that scoobyspares who break cars on here were doing converted front entry td05,s not long ago. give him a pm he might still have one.

lofty35 07 December 2012 12:24 PM

mine pulls off the second quicker but then his tdo5 just pulls away and i struggle to keep up, will have a look on here scoobyspares then

Shaks-STI 07 December 2012 12:39 PM

I can say that with VF24/23 ( i have used both) are great turbos what the kind of power you are looking for, both turbos have amazing spool, and with a proper map and supporting mods will get you well over 300.

Some people have these turbos running over 350hp.

lofty35 07 December 2012 01:03 PM

320 plus would be good, dont see many of those vf 24/24 second hand around tho

Shaks-STI 07 December 2012 01:09 PM

Call few breakers they will have them. You are in Leicester try Scooby Leicester in Syston 07967673855

lofty35 07 December 2012 01:26 PM

i live in syston mate, will ring them, but he puts most of his stuff on ebay never see any turbos on there, if were on about the people. the one at the half croft?

Shaks-STI 07 December 2012 01:50 PM

Near Future Motorsport at the back

lofty35 07 December 2012 02:36 PM

ye same one im on about

banny sti 07 December 2012 02:44 PM

If you're upgrading why not go for something newer like a VF35, which will spool quicker than a TD05 and make 320bhp no problem

lofty35 07 December 2012 03:42 PM

banny - will the vf35 be faster than the td05?

thunder8 07 December 2012 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by yabbadoo4 (Post 10897307)
ive got similar mods on my wagon with td05 and im running 315bhp. andy forrest told me with induction and fmic the td05 can max around 340.

paul at zen did mine and i got 325bhp,only thing differant is a newage wrx top mount intercooler and extra holes in airbox for more air

KAS35RSTI 07 December 2012 04:36 PM

VF24 for sale here. PM if interested. Made 330hp at 1.4 bar

carlstoke63 07 December 2012 09:48 PM

Vf35
 
I was running a vf35 on my wrx that was hitting 320 when I had it mapped with pinkies Walbro and up pipe but I had a lot of lag on it I was told it was the up pipe cheap **** was going change the uppipe but didn't bother in the end I ended up breaking the car but yeh I would recommend a vf35 it was hitting 320 with the other cats still on mapper said take them of and take it back and he would guarantee 350+bhp :thumb:

chasey 08 December 2012 04:30 AM

vf 22 lag ?, i have one fitted to my car made 313/365 and it still had some left in it and its got no lag at all and spools up really well.

Shaks-STI 08 December 2012 07:12 AM


Originally Posted by KAS35RSTI (Post 10897568)
VF24 for sale here. PM if interested. Made 330hp at 1.4 bar

Lofty35 VF24 here for you mate :thumb:

cookie sti 08 December 2012 09:35 AM

I have a vf 22 on my sti im breaking along with a mines ecu and yellows it hits 1.3 bar and when on pulls and pulls up too 8k but is relativity dead until 4k i would defo recommend a 22 but only on an engine that is strong enough to take the constant high revs

carlstoke63 08 December 2012 10:21 AM

Vf35
 
Well looks like my next turbos going be a vf22 next year me thinks :thumb:

TonyBurns 08 December 2012 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by yabbadoo4 (Post 10897285)
bit of info i found:



VF22




This Turbo was used on the V3 Subaru Impreza WRX and has the highest potential output of all of the IHI VF turbos thus making it a good choice for the tuner who is looking for lots of top end power.
You can with a good mapper/tuner and with the correct supporting modifications achieve 17psi by 3000rpm and is well capable up to +400hp.


As with all turbos the more top end power gained results in a slower spool up (more lag).This is because the VF22 uses the larger P20 exhaust housing, This the main factor in this spool issue and is not so much suited to daily driving than some of the other options available.
Although the VF22 is the largest VF series turbo, and can take highest boost levels of all the VF range it is not quite suited for stroked blocks running high boost of more than 20psi+
The VF22 is a ball bearing turbo using 485 comp wheel and as already mentioned the P20 Turbine Housing.
460cfm at 18.0psi

Forget about this, its a bag of crap (not your fault yabba, probably just some yank who wrote it).

The vf22 is a laggy turbo, and i mean REALLY laggy turbo, it runs well on the 2.2 on the 22B but on anything else, its got nothing down low, its also very fragile as VF series turbo's go, it doesnt like high boost so forget 400bhp, good for around 350bhp on a 2ltr but not nice to drive compared to the other turbo's out there, you can class it as an old school turbo, nothing, nothing, nothing, BOOM, but by that time everything else has gone.

OP, if you want a 400bhp turbo then this isnt it, go for the recommended ones like the SC42, ones that give you good power throughout the rev range, you are after drivability not lag (which is what this will give you :()

Tony:)

lofty35 08 December 2012 02:07 PM

tony -

im looking for 320 plus bhp shall i just look for a vf35 then? Is it a quick spool as i want it to be quicker off the mark than my mates td05 classic import?

TonyBurns 08 December 2012 03:42 PM

The vf35 or a vf34 (roller bearing) even a vf48 will spool quicker than a td05 16g so either one of the above is a better choice than a vf22 or vf23.

Tony:)

STi V6 Ra Limited 01 October 2017 02:37 AM


Originally Posted by TonyBurns (Post 10898764)
Forget about this, its a bag of crap (not your fault yabba, probably just some yank who wrote it).

The vf22 is a laggy turbo, and i mean REALLY laggy turbo, it runs well on the 2.2 on the 22B but on anything else, its got nothing down low, its also very fragile as VF series turbo's go, it doesnt like high boost so forget 400bhp, good for around 350bhp on a 2ltr but not nice to drive compared to the other turbo's out there, you can class it as an old school turbo, nothing, nothing, nothing, BOOM, but by that time everything else has gone.

OP, if you want a 400bhp turbo then this isnt it, go for the recommended ones like the SC42, ones that give you good power throughout the rev range, you are after drivability not lag (which is what this will give you :()

Tony:)

I know this is quite a late response - but I feel I need to correct the above. The VF22 can be the most awesome turbo for an EJ20. Keep the stock exhaust manifold and up pipe so the exhaust gasses flow quickly, fit a full 3" exhaust so the gasses exit quickly, don't use a front mount intercooler as all that pipe work takes a long time to fill up - get a big TMIC. With that set up my VF22 spools quicker than the original VF28 !!! almost zero lag AND 320 whp in a 1240Kg car.


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