If you are fed up with the 'Windsors' then I suggest you move to a country which doesn't have a Monarch and where you can be a citzen and not a subject....Somewhere that has a president as head of state....maybe a politician, who you know has the best interests of the country in mind and who works for 50 years representing the country and who widely respected through out the world...someone who's children also work hard for their country.....like Chirac or Bush....:(

Jeff
Royalist and ex-member of Her Majesties Arm Forces (Royal Navy)

she raises millions in tourism.
The Jubilee will be watched by millions, bring in thousands of foreigners who will spend their money.......which in turn helps improve our everyday life.

I hate it when people fail to realise how much money the Monarchy brings in yet they seem to focus on the fact that sh2 "does nothing".

If you don't want to watch the Jubilee "crap" then don't!

Blimey Jeff have you had a bad day :)

Wurzel Ex 3rd Battalion The Queens Regiment.

eh?

since when did Sophie and Edward work hard for this country?

or that Will bloke come to that? Or his dope smoking brother? etc.

You pay your tax, I pay mine. You work hard, I work hard.

Why should they be exempt from taxation just because they 'cut a deal' with the Tories when they were ruining the country - in mean in Government?

:confused:

Not really, I just find Robin Ledgers post highly offensive. I spent 8 years of my life in the armed services having sworn allegiance to the crown to defend the right of pr**cks like that to say what they like....Democracy....would want it



Jeff

"she raises millions in tourism."

how does she do that then, and where are the figures?

This is just a myth... :rolleyes:

Think how much money the country could make if we did a public beheading of the royals !!

cool :D

They are leeches, the lot of em !!! We would still get the tourism etc, they dont come to see the royals, they come to see our history !!!

I have to say I'm with Jeff on this one.

That said I respect anyones views - it's a free counrty - I think ;):D

David

Not if your talking about pikey's in General it ain't :D:D:D

She is a council tennant in a council house.

I don't understand Jeff's views.

He supports peoples' democratic right to free speech - until they exercise it. That's a contradiction.

But, I'm not quite surre why he is sooo defensive of the Royals.

once the queen gets in and logs on it will only be a matter of time before this gets locked ;)

Pikeys and the Queen ,Dont like paying their way in this world.

That money could have done wonders to some House of Commons offices....(New wallpaper etc)

I don't understand where your going with the Edward and Sophie arguement....Neither of them are on the Civil List and therefore you don't pay them a penny from your hard earned taxes....

The 'Deal' the Queen did with the previous Goverment was to reduce the Civil List and for the Monarch to pay Income Tax. Charles' income comes from the Duchy of Cornwall so he's not on the list either, nor are his children. So a least get your facts right for bad mouthing something others believe in.


Jeff

....except when it comes to deciding the head of state.

Robin

I'll defend your right to free speech, just don't expect me not to find it offensive or not to argue with you. I have a right to free speech as well.


Jeff

It appears that there is a bit of controversy going on is there something I can clear up?

lmao

The Royal family generate far more cash than they would pay in Tax. Inheritance or anything else. Lets just call it comission!!!!!!

Yes lets, I agree 100% with the last message entered.

Now it is time for one to retire for the evening and quoff a few beverages. So good night loyal subjects and One looks forward to conversing with you all on the morrow.

I have have a question for all you Republicans.....

Given a free vote name the person you'd want as head of state

Oh gosh one has aquired ones first corner! Gosh I'm thrilled. :)

As long as the Queen controls the armed forces and not Tony and his cronies I am with Lizzy.

Thats not the point mate,the point is its OUR country,so it should be up to us.

Wasn't tax invented in the first place to provide funding so that the King or Queen at the time could send out armies to invade other countries?

Thus, taxes are monies to be paid to the Monarch for their chosen use. If Lizzie pays tax, then the money should go to her anyway!!!!

Things seem to have gone tits-up ever since the government was put in control of allocating the tax spend [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]

mb

Err, Income Tax was invented as a "temporary" tax to pay for the Napoleonic wars. Still, it is worth paying :rolleyes: for the quality of this country.

Now how about road tax? The Institute of Civil Engineers reckons that we need to spend £120 per tax payer on the roads to bring them up to spec. So how come we pay £150+ on VED?

Inheritance tax is an optional tax - careful planning means than you can avoid it. So lets be grateful for the effort put in by the Queen Mum during the war and leave it there.

Duncan ;)

:confused: what effort did she put in ?

To the moderator.....

How come it's o.k. to express opinions about our Monarch in these threads but not call a Pikey a Pikey???

http://www.scoobynet.co.uk/bbs/threa...threadid=93893

Seems like a double standard to me.

Either we have free speech and can express our opinions, (however bigoted) or not....


(edited by me again 'cos I'm a complete novice at this hyperlink stuff.....dohhhh!!!)


[Edited by Timbo33 - 5/8/2002 10:29:02 PM]

[Edited by Timbo33 - 5/8/2002 10:31:42 PM]

lol- you see Tim this is the trouble with working for a living- you spend all day of SN then blunder in at 10.30pm and use a word (twice!) that would have got you deleted at 10am, got you beaten by 2pm, had you hung by 5pm and stoned to death by mad moderators at 8pm- god knows what will happen to you now!

Tiggs

hung drawn and tarmac'ed? ;)