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_Viktor 01 June 2012 12:16 AM

At what point is a remap required...
 
OK,
I thought I posted this earlier in the week but maybe finger trouble struck me..

How far can I go before Im throwing money at nothing and need a remap.
edit..
for my 2002 WRX wagon :)
/edit
Basicly the places that are close'ish (<4hrs drive) a remap costs stupid cash for 4hrs work.

At what point does good advice say basicly stop there cos your wasting money or poss damage something..
Currently 2.5" cat back HnS exhaust + KnN panel filter.

Im my list of things I would like to do are...
Decat up pipe,
Prodrive down pipe, (inc cat)
fit my HnS centre de-cat pipe
Unequal Headers (Japspeed spec 2)

Anything obvious Iv missed

thoughts welcome please

Vik

TonyBurns 01 June 2012 09:34 AM

Hi :)

What model/year car is this on?

Tony:)

_Viktor 01 June 2012 12:10 PM

Tony,

a 2002 bugeye WRX UK wagon
ty.

Tidgy 01 June 2012 12:43 PM

decat up pipe = map most of the time.

It's difficut to say 100% because different cars react differently to mods.

marcevs72 01 June 2012 03:30 PM

sports cat and system with panel filter and walbro pump about as far as you can go on later classics before mapping needed

jura11 01 June 2012 03:42 PM

Hi Vik

Personally i would go with down the road as you suggest plus HRC 255lph Fuel pump,but i would don't fit Japspeed headers,with those headers you will loose spool,personally i would have look for Harvey Up pipe and his ported headers,which will help you in therm of spool and some gain on side of the torque too

If you will be OK drive to your mapper,yes if you will keep off the boost until remap


Jura

Scoobyno1 01 June 2012 06:06 PM

Or get the mapper come to you?

_Viktor 01 June 2012 07:18 PM

Thanks all,
As you can see Im currently not in UK and dont have plans to drive this car back to UK to get it mapped, local place (2hrs away) wanted 800€ (650ukp) for a 4hr session. I wont get approval for that from the long haired general.

Whilst a set of 'Harvey' headers might be cost effective in UK, I would need to look long n hard at the shipping costs for such a heavy bit of metal.
So I may have to cut short my uprade plans for the Subaru, all my budget this year is going into my Caterham.

???
can I run a de-cat down pipe and still pass emissions test with ONLY the cat in the up pipe??
as I have a HnS down pipe and centre de-cat pipe not installed as I guessed this would not be OK for local MOT (katsastus test), same CO % etc as UK.

Cheers
Chris

mikeWR1 01 June 2012 07:27 PM

Forgive me if iam wrong but,,,,, Does unequal headers lose the subaru burble ? if so thats criminal ...:(

madmarx 01 June 2012 10:09 PM


Originally Posted by _Viktor (Post 10647069)
can I run a de-cat down pipe and still pass emissions test with ONLY the cat in the up pipe??

Cheers
Chris

No mate you cant. You can remove the up pipe cat though without affecting MOT passing if a catted downpipe is in situ.

harvey 02 June 2012 02:41 PM

The OE headers are unequal. This is the very reason for the Subaru burble. Fitting equal length tubular and the car sounds more like a Jap motorbike rather than the offset burble from the 2 litre Subaru.

marcevs72 02 June 2012 02:50 PM

welcome back harvey...quick question how much for set of headers and up-pipe???
got 2.1 being built at enginetuner soon and running sc42 hopefully and after headers.cheers

bigsinky 02 June 2012 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by _Viktor (Post 10647069)
Thanks all,
I wont get approval for that from the long haired general.

Chris

hahahahaha made me laugh
that's what separate bank accounts and slush funds are for. most of us if we are honest probably couldn't justify the money we spend on our cars but we do anyway. subarus are just bottomless pits in reality my friend.

_Viktor 02 June 2012 08:14 PM


Originally Posted by bigsinky (Post 10648288)
hahahahaha made me laugh
that's what separate bank accounts and slush funds are for. most of us if we are honest probably couldn't justify the money we spend on our cars but we do anyway. subarus are just bottomless pits in reality my friend.

We have separate accounts.. we even have a 3rd account for house stuff..
just most of my cash this year for 'car stuff' has gone on the caterham..
QED 45's direct to head throttle bodies, linkages, ITG full filter, DTA S40 ECU + custom loom inc CANBUS, 4:1 long primarys, lowered floor. it all adds up.

I could get away with 3-400€ for a remap.. but this place wants 800€. like wtf.!

harvey 03 June 2012 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by marcevs72 (Post 10648125)
welcome back harvey...quick question how much for set of headers and up-pipe???
got 2.1 being built at enginetuner soon and running sc42 hopefully and after headers.cheers

Thanks Marcevs.
Around the SC42 you are at a dividing line between fitting ported headers and matched uppipe or going for GT2 Spec Tubular headers with the trick uppipe. There is also the consideration of cost.
On an exchange basis, ported headers, dressed and DEI heat wrapped with a matching stainless steel, slip jointed, purpose designed uppipe with five new Subaru studs, all DEI heat wrapped is £369. Delivery £12.50 and you have three weeks to get your old headers back to me.
There are actually six uppipes in this range and I select the most suitable uppipe for your turbo and application.

If therw was any possibility of going further than 420 bhp I would seriously look at the GT2 Spec headers along with my trick 3 bolt uppipe which gives great response and early spool. Everything is DEI heat wrapped. The headers and slip jointed to help prevent cracking at the collector and the uppipe has five new Subaru studs. This however is an expensive option £699 plus £12.50 delivery outright.
The trick uppipe on its own is £149, slip jointed, heat wrapped, five new studs and there are two uppipes in this range and I will match the appropriate uppipe to your spec.

If you want more information or want to talk this through drop me an email per profile and include your phone number.
Cheers,
Harvey.
:thumb:

mikeWR1 03 June 2012 09:01 PM


Originally Posted by harvey (Post 10648109)
The OE headers are unequal. This is the very reason for the Subaru burble. Fitting equal length tubular and the car sounds more like a Jap motorbike rather than the offset burble from the 2 litre Subaru.


I got it the wrong way round.... :lol:


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