need new management. simtec vs syvecs vs AEM vs ???
As title. I run a power fc on my V1 GC8 and im at the very limit of it. I want to do away with the airflow meter and go for some thing a bit more advanced that will do 600bhp+ just wanted to know what peoples thought are on best bang for buck and any feed back if you have them fitted.
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from what i read, and what a lot of the big power boys use. syvecs is the daddy
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For your level Syvecs all the way. Fantastic adjustability for both low speed driving and balls out action. You can have active knock control/protection, data logging (very useful), multiple maps and much more. Coupled with JT innovations Toucan screen display you can do away with gauges. Customer support is excellent too.
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Syvecs is the best but expensive. The new Simtec or Alcatec as it's known offers excellent value for money & has many features of Syvecs. Read Alan Jefry's post on it,available from 1st July I think. I will be upgrading my Simtec to this soon.
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The Simtek and Alcatek are different.
The old Simtek is now upgraded and rebranded as AlcaTek. https://www.scoobynet.com/trader-ann...ouncement.html |
Originally Posted by Ian
(Post 10639811)
from what i read, and what a lot of the big power boys use. syvecs is the daddy
Originally Posted by Einstein RA
(Post 10639822)
For your level Syvecs all the way. Fantastic adjustability for both low speed driving and balls out action. You can have active knock control/protection, data logging (very useful), multiple maps and much more. Coupled with JT innovations Toucan screen display you can do away with gauges. Customer support is excellent too.
Originally Posted by RICHARD J
(Post 10639843)
Syvecs is the best but expensive. The new Simtec or Alcatec as it's known offers excellent value for money & has many features of Syvecs. Read Alan Jefry's post on it,available from 1st July I think. I will be upgrading my Simtec to this soon.
Thanks for all the comments, please keep them coming |
Another vote for Syvecs.
You won't regret it. |
The alcatek has almost all the syvecs features and also runs with the toucan as the syvecs does.
Value for money,alcatek takes it for me especially if you want the toucan as you will be onto very serious money with both:thumb: |
Originally Posted by prodriverules
(Post 10640225)
The alcatek has almost all the syvecs features and also runs with the toucan as the syvecs does.
Value for money,alcatek takes it for me especially if you want the toucan as you will be onto very serious money with both:thumb: |
Originally Posted by redace
(Post 10640425)
So if the alcatek dose pritty much every thing the Syves dose why is the Syvecs better? what would you lose out on going with the alcatek.
Don't know the exact details but data logging is one thing but unless you have a major tune going on in the engine bay I can't see a point given most cars are mapped and are fine unless tampered with for ever or until you get bored and want more lol. Also I must say the boost control is a little better on syvecs although I haven't seena boost graph from a new alcatek yet. |
Is the new alcatek out yet??
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Originally Posted by craigyp
(Post 10640489)
Is the new alcatek out yet??
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Simtek will get you to 600bhp but Syvecs will get you past 600bhp with safety.
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Originally Posted by stevebt
(Post 10640503)
Simtek will get you to 600bhp but Syvecs will get you past 600bhp with safety.
What would be the unsafe part of alcatek past 600 Steve? And I'm not being funny just curious. |
I'm sure I'd be happy with 600 :-) lol
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im having a track car built, going to be around 600bhp, i had a simtek but was advised by my track car builder to go for a syvecs , so sold the simtek, and now have the daddy :D
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As above Syvecs is way to go
Features of Syvecs S6 are here in glance http://www.syvecs.com/s6gp.php Link is for GP,which is same as PnP(Plug and Play) Jura |
People trust syvecs and it has a proven track record in big power cars, both road going and race cars.
That's worth the extra few quid all day long in my view. Id suggest ringing round a few of the elite mappers in the country and ask their opinions on which one they would suggest. |
Originally Posted by MattyB1983
(Post 10641400)
Id suggest ringing round a few of the elite mappers in the country and ask their opinions on which one they would suggest.
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When talking of 'elite' mappers then this name should be near the top of your list,
http://www.zenperformance.co.uk/p/Home.html |
Originally Posted by stevebt
(Post 10640503)
Simtek will get you to 600bhp but Syvecs will get you past 600bhp with safety.
The Alcatek has full knock control as standard now, the Syvecs only comes with basic knock control as standard. The Alcatek will, retard ignition on a per cyl basis, add fuel and remove boost in a 3 tier strategy. The Syvecs knock control even on the full version isn't that comprehensive. Both ecus are capable of tripping on low oil pressure, high oil temp, low fuel pressure. Both ecus have closed loop wideband Lambda. In reality the only thing the Syvecs now has that the Alcatek doesn't, is on board datalogging. Bigarfs 2.1 Stroked Newage car ran an Alcatek ecu for 2 years faultlessly :D |
Originally Posted by MattyB1983
(Post 10641746)
When talking of 'elite' mappers then this name should be near the top of your list,
http://www.zenperformance.co.uk/p/Home.html
Originally Posted by MartynJ
(Post 10641890)
Explain ?
The Alcatek has full knock control as standard now, the Syvecs only comes with basic knock control as standard. The Alcatek will, retard ignition on a per cyl basis, add fuel and remove boost in a 3 tier strategy. The Syvecs knock control even on the full version isn't that comprehensive. Both ecus are capable of tripping on low oil pressure, high oil temp, low fuel pressure. Both ecus have closed loop wideband Lambda. In reality the only thing the Syvecs now has that the Alcatek doesn't, is on board datalogging. Bigarfs 2.1 Stroked Newage car ran an Alcatek ecu for 2 years faultlessly :D |
Originally Posted by MartynJ
(Post 10641890)
Explain ?
The Alcatek has full knock control as standard now, the Syvecs only comes with basic knock control as standard. The Alcatek will, retard ignition on a per cyl basis, add fuel and remove boost in a 3 tier strategy. The Syvecs knock control even on the full version isn't that comprehensive. Both ecus are capable of tripping on low oil pressure, high oil temp, low fuel pressure. Both ecus have closed loop wideband Lambda. In reality the only thing the Syvecs now has that the Alcatek doesn't, is on board datalogging. Bigarfs 2.1 Stroked Newage car ran an Alcatek ecu for 2 years faultlessly :D Martyn Both ECU have CANbus? This probably why people will go with Syvecs if they want run digital dash like AiM,Race Technology,MoTeC without the going with some sort of compromise. Can you upgrade too Firmware as user via laptop or you will need send to creator? Agreed AlcaTek looking like good ECU,but still not seen it in action,due this i'm very cautious. Where is SimTek Pro or again launch is postponed or you are now forgotten on the SimTek Pro? Jura Jura |
Motec? just my 2p worth. but then i am noticibly richer than yow ;)
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Originally Posted by jura11
(Post 10641942)
Martyn
Both ECU have CANbus? This probably why people will go with Syvecs if they want run digital dash like AiM,Race Technology,MoTeC without the going with some sort of compromise. Can you upgrade too Firmware as user via laptop or you will need send to creator? Agreed AlcaTek looking like good ECU,but still not seen it in action,due this i'm very cautious. Where is SimTek Pro or again launch is postponed or you are now forgotten on the SimTek Pro? Jura Jura I haven't seen a SimTek pro to comment I'm afraid ! |
Originally Posted by bigsinky
(Post 10641974)
Motec? just my 2p worth. but then i am noticibly richer than yow ;)
Motec in my car.... :luxhello: |
Sorry should add that the Alcatek can also, flash the CEL on any low det event, any high det event and/or come on permanently as a result of passing the maximum retard threshold.
All of these options are selected at the time of mapping. It will also put a nice big Knock Warning display on the Toucan if you have one at any set amount of ignition retard independently of the ecus internal warning settings. |
Originally Posted by MattyB1983
(Post 10642041)
:lol1:
Motec in my car.... :luxhello: |
Originally Posted by stealthy55
(Post 10642740)
expensive though
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Originally Posted by bigsinky
(Post 10642785)
reassuringly so :D
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