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David Lock 16 February 2012 11:33 AM

Carving?
 
I am partial to a roast joint and like to carve the meat fairly thinly with a decent knife. I do have an electric job but somehow feel that is cheating and think a real knife is more manly ;)

But what I have found is that I have a knife with a sort of wave edge if you know what I mean. To touch it it feels blunt but is far better at cutting meat than a sharp straight edge. I have never understood this but I do note that if I get some slices of meat at a supermarket delicatessen counter they use the same sort of knife. I don't even know how I can sharpen it or, indeed, if I need to.

So what do SN carvers do?

dl

Bristol98 16 February 2012 11:41 AM

I use an effin sharp Psycho type knife, but I like my meat meaty (thick slices, more like steak)!! :D:D

P1Fanatic 16 February 2012 01:03 PM

I prefer thicker slices myself but key is letting the meat rest as carving straight out of the oven will always be hard work.

I use a global carving knife and random carving fork - the former kept razor sharp with a water wheel ceramic type sharpener.

Same knife I can cut wafer think slices of potatoes ie for a dauphonoise so I think its fine for carving meat :)

Turbohot 16 February 2012 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by Bristol98 (Post 10490393)
I use an effin sharp Psycho type knife, but I like my meat meaty (thick slices, more like steak)!! :D:D


:lol1:

Chip 16 February 2012 07:01 PM

David,

Firstly always allow the meat to rest before carving for about 20 mins. A sharp knife will make carving easier as well as cutting through the grain of the meat rather than with it.
Using a boning knife to remove bones to make it easier to carve after cooking though do not remove large bones like on a rib of beef.

Get your butcher to chine the meat when buying it will make it easier as well.

All larger joints require a slightly different approach to be carved properly so don't worry too much if you mess it up.

Chip

David Lock 16 February 2012 07:13 PM

I do know the stuff about letting the meat rest before carving, in fact we usually put the joint out of the oven while we make the gravy which gives it a chance to settle.

Much of the meat I carve now is just a chunk of cold ham from which I like to carve off some thin slices for a decent sarnie. That's where the wavy edge knife really excels.

david

addi monster 16 February 2012 07:23 PM

We have one the the wavey edged ones and as you say it is very very good, as for sharpening it i think its not an option sadly,.

Chip 16 February 2012 07:34 PM

Funnily enough the knife with the wavey or serrated edge is called a ham knife which is why it cuts ham well.

Turbohot 16 February 2012 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by David Lock (Post 10491104)
I do know the stuff about letting the meat rest before carving, in fact we usually put the joint out of the oven while we make the gravy which gives it a chance to settle.

Much of the meat I carve now is just a chunk of cold ham from which I like to carve off some thin slices for a decent sarnie. That's where the wavy edge knife really excels.

david

IMO wavy edge knife is the best for carving, David. I find that my so-called carving knife (it is a father of my other knives from the set) useless due to it being silk sharp. That's why I use one of my little, wavy edged stake knifes to carve a large joint. Someone I know uses the electric bread knife for carving humungous roast joints. But then again, she feeds the nation every so often, whereas I only cook large-ish joints on ad hoc basis.

pmcb 16 February 2012 07:37 PM

You mean a serrated blade? Theres a wiki on serrated blades: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serrated_blade and how to sharpen them ... sad, isn't it? :cuckoo:

Chip 16 February 2012 07:39 PM

Electric knives are rubbish, a good sharp carving knife will cut meat much quicker as it slices the meat rather than rips through it like an electric knife does.

Chip

Turbohot 16 February 2012 07:41 PM

Yes, yes!!! Serrarrarrarrated blade! :thumb: :D They are the best. I should buy one.

PaulC72 16 February 2012 07:55 PM

I just like to hack it to death, just to make sure its dead of course ;-)

scoobeenut 16 February 2012 07:59 PM

When sharpening serrated blades you only sharpen on the side with the serrations this vid should help http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjzcMrlaP58

I use the Lansky sharpening system for all my knives and you can buy attachments for serrated blades.

oldsplice 16 February 2012 08:12 PM

This is the knife I use. :)

http://www.johnlewis.com/230843680/Product.aspx

David Lock 16 February 2012 09:16 PM

Thanks guys and youngsplice :)

Interesting and comments about sharpening very helpful. And now I know that the knife I use for ham is called a "Ham" knife which I didn't know :cuckoo:

david

wayne9t9 17 February 2012 12:24 AM

Get a steel.

https://cn1.kaboodle.com/hi/img/2/0/...=1207935480000

Learn how to use it and throw away the electric nonsense :)

Bubba po 17 February 2012 12:26 AM

There's already a carving thread. :p

David Lock 17 February 2012 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by wayne9t9 (Post 10491866)
Get a steel.

https://cn1.kaboodle.com/hi/img/2/0/...=1207935480000

Learn how to use it and throw away the electric nonsense :)


As it happens electric knives can be quite good but they are a pain to use compared with a decent knife.

For sharpening regular blades I use a Tormek whetstone with leather honing wheel and a steel on occasions.

dl

Chip 17 February 2012 05:49 PM

David


If you need any more culinary advice, like "how to make toast" or "how do I boil an egg" then please don't hesitate to ask as we are always willing to help the elderly ;).


In the menatime please be careful you don't cut yourself with your ham knife ;)

Chip

Turbohot 18 February 2012 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by PaulC72 (Post 10491217)
I just like to hack it to death, just to make sure its dead of course ;-)

:eek:



https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-JFNBQsO0R...hannibal01.jpg



:D

David Lock 18 February 2012 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by Chip (Post 10492796)
David


If you need any more culinary advice, like "how to make toast" or "how do I boil an egg" then please don't hesitate to ask as we are always willing to help the elderly ;).


In the menatime please be careful you don't cut yourself with your ham knife ;)

Chip

Thanks so much Chip, I'll bear that in mind. I was going to reply before but I was busy in the kitchen - one of the lobsters needed sorting out and with 6 different sauces on the go I was almost struggling - you know what it's like. I bet you have similar problems on your tiny Welsh stove!

And exactly what is "menatime" - some sort of valley timekeeping?

David

Chip 18 February 2012 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by David Lock (Post 10493937)
Thanks so much Chip, I'll bear that in mind. I was going to reply before but I was busy in the kitchen - one of the lobsters needed sorting out and with 6 different sauces on the go I was almost struggling - you know what it's like. I bet you have similar problems on your tiny Welsh stove!

And exactly what is "menatime" - some sort of valley timekeeping?

David

David,

We have advanced here in Wales these past few years and now cook on a popty or a popty ping when referring to a microwave.:D

Menatime is an ancient welsh meaning for a form of solar time that corrects the variations of local apparent time ;)

Enjoy your lobsters ;) and you may be interested in this: http://www.lodormeat.co.uk/

Chip

David Lock 18 February 2012 02:50 PM

Might give Lodor a whirl. Lamb prices look OK.

Thanks for time explanation. I'll remember that for Mastermind :)

David


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