Engine out in classic
 

Hey guys my bro has took engine out his wrx import classic to sort out leaks ect what proformance parts could he put on and upgrade while the engine is out cheers

anything he wanted. the engines out

How long's a piece of string, Rob?

From experience, it's best to have an outcome in mind BEFORE starting on something like his.
That way you avoid the pitfalls of buying twice, and/or of being disappointed.

Decide what he wants it to do, produce, be used for etc, then ask us again.

A lots of questions to be asked:
What's he trying to achieve?
Budget?
An engine rebuild or just some gaskets etc?
Maybe it would be easier just to drop a classic STI engine in ......

2.1 stroker, STI Heads, bigger turbo, uprated clutch....mate the list could be endless. As above he needs to decide what he wants from the car, ask him how much power he wants to acheive before anything.

lol sorry guys should have explain it more well budget is about 2k but he wants to get it to 400bhp hes putting light weight pulleys on now he just want some avice on where best to start

Going to at least need twice that if he wants 400bhp
Jay

i know mate :thumb: but he wants to know where to start off hes got 2k at the moment

If it's standard at the moment you need about 10 to 15 grand to see that sort of power depending on how much you do yourself & what quality parts you use.

Forging the engine is a good start but won't see any power gains & will cost a lot more than 2K, but it will give a strong foundation to build on towards hitting 400 BHP. Most people never hit anywhere this level unless prepared to invest a lot of time effort & money in their car.

400bhp and £2000 do not go together my friend, trust me I know.

For starters, a standard classic WRX engine will sh1t itself shortly after the first boot full.
And if somehow it manages to hold together long enough for you to change gear the box will destroy itself, and trust me, I know that too.

400 bhp in a classic can be had pretty cheaply, the expensive part is having a reliable 400bhp.
Your brother really needs to join up to this site and do his research. Without doing that at the very least he will be in for much upset.

Forge it

he is on here mate scoobymark97 hes got some idea but dont know much about the scooby engine ok guys let me put it this way what the first upgrade he should do if he wants to reach 400 in the future:thumb:

he needs the engine sorting so its capable of taking 400 ponies, sti lump or a forged engine, then transmission/brakes then he can look towards bigger turbo`s/injectors and coolers,.

As above, his engine needs to be able to take 400bhp before he even considers anything else. Unfortunately that costs a bit more than £2K though.
Plus all the other bits he'll need, gearbox is a big hit too.
He needs to be looking at a budget of £10,000...minimum. And that's serious buddy not an exaggeration.

Lateral performance do a 2.1 stroker for just just under £1500 plus VAT

Injectors, FPR, ECU, Intercooler, Turbo, Exhaust are just some of the things. Then theres Brakes & Suspension.

I'd look into these mate...

http://lateralperformance.co.uk/prod...offer_________
http://scoobyclinic.com/products_enginecomponents.htm

Is it the model with or without traction control?

Thanks
Sam

Traction control ??????

Lol he's reffering to the last chap asking if he could switch his off pmsl

i'd budget to replace that chocolate 752 gearbox if you're planning to run 300+ tbh.

Power wise, as plenty have said on here, your wrx lump will take a dump once you start heading over 350bhp.

2k budget, i'd go for the following

VF34
FMIC
Harvey headers and up pipe
panel filter
Walbro pump or similar
3 port boost solenoid
Upgrade to a 754 box from a newage
decent clutch/flywheel
cambelt change, gaskets etc.
remap via esl or simtek

That should see 330-350 and some sort of reliability.

good advice hamster, 400 is a hard no. to reach, i`m high 300s, on the edge with my box and already gone through plenty of moolah.

be realistic or save his wonga and buy a car with it done already off some other mug whos spent the dollars

thanks mate thats the answer i was looking for from the start :thumb:

hamster whats the 3 port boost solenoid ?

All that for 2k, yeah right dream on!
Why would you need a FMIC when the target is only 350bhp?

if it were me id be spending the 2k on
acl mains
mahle big ends
mahle forged pistons
cam belt
new oil pump
11mm head studs.
clutch.

search for the power at a later date when he has the money but build a strong engine now ready for it.

Heat soak??

Top mount is fine at 350 especially an sti top mount. But why splash out on things like a front mount now with the intention of 350-400 before doing the parts i listed above? Build the foundations before the building is the way forward, especially if you only have 2k to start with. The bolt on goodys can come at a later date without the need to re do work thats already been done.

Also bear in mind this is an old car and not in tip top condition if the engine needed to come out to fix existing issues. To start thinking power now with a 2k budget is only going to end in tears. Build a strong realiable engine that can be pumped up in the future.

Standard classic top mount is no good for that power. classic Sti top mount will take it but come summer time heat soak will be an issue. An upgraded top mount or front mount will keep charge temps in check and keep the engine at peak power

+1

i would add rods to it too then think about the power, but why 400 bhp?
a 350bhp on a classic make a very fast car and cost effective but for another 50bhp you will need 6 speed, brakes, turbo,added to the list which aint cheap to have it.

just aim for a 350 and build your engine to be reliable.

Thats where my money would go too. :thumb: