Best upgrade path for an 06 WRX
Im trading my 03 WRX with Propack for an 06 WRX standard :-( on Monday
Wheels nearly decided - id like the speedlines like the ones I have but unable to find a good set so going for something similar brand new 18" Need a power upgrade for it bad the 03 pulls hard to 7,200, the 06 is noticably slower in standard trim Looking for a remap for power hoping to get a slightly better MPG too Whats best, whos going to give me good service and you would recommend? |
this thread will prob start a massive bitchfest over whos mapper is best lol .
my vote is for Racedynamix!!! and he comes to you! |
LOL i could see that happening too AN hence my question about service and recommendation
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with regards to upgrade.
i have as follows walbro 255 fuel pump japspeed cold air intake kit (filter in wing) full 3" revolution decat system sti intercooler & sti undertray vf48 turbo ilf7h plugs and as above mapped by Duncan aka Racedynamix |
Based on lashing out for the car and the wheels Im just looking for a remap to start
It has a Proline back box and im not decatting it if I have to refit for any MOT work etc I would just like to get it up to the same/similar speed spec as my current 03 < a little bit faster would be cool of course ;-) and I would think with the 2.5 that should be easy? |
well on a td04 with the plugs and fuel pump and decat i got 280bhp ..305lb/ft
decat is worth it, it only costs like £30 for a garage to change over and put back on mot day... |
Whats involved with the decat?
I should imagine it will need to be done before the remap? |
Originally Posted by John Owen
(Post 10364302)
Whats involved with the decat?
I should imagine it will need to be done before the remap? you can pick up a full decat from £260 upto well however much you can afford lol. best to go for a full 3" system for better flow. japspeed systems are around £260 and sound nice ... but like anything its down to your own taste. it takes a garage about 10 mins to change the whole exhaust system!! |
AHh I feel the upgrades already starting to sting the pocket!
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Hello mate
Don't be disappointed with your new WRX once you've modded and spent a little, it will be a proper pulling beast. You get that torque figure up and working well you will have a massive smile on your face, trust me I have. Firstly mapper and machanic: I use Duncan (racedynamixs) too, he knows his stuff and has transformed my WRX. For a mechanic, you wanna use a guy called Tim who's slightly local to you. He used to work for Zen (probably one of the best tuning companies out there) and is now mobile. what this guy doesn't know about scooby engines isn't worth knowing. PM me and I'll send over his mobile number. Personally I think there's two stages to begin with. 270-280bhp and then upto 350bhp over this and you'll probably need a new gearbox. 270-280 decate downpipe better backbox better panel filter - cosworth or K&N IMO 325-350 = 370 - 400 torque this is the real power is decate cat pipe - just change it over before MOT fuel pump spark plugs bigger turbo - personally I went TD05 18G vertually everyone says STI TMIC and standard air box is fine and you'll probably be good. I had to change, personal preference If you think your old wrx with standard turbo pulled until 7,200 revs you'll love what can be done especially with an 18g hope this helps mate |
A remap is obviously the key to unlocking it's potential. I can't say that I'd ever recommend to go over 300bhp on a 2.5L WRX engine without the customer knowing about the severe limitation on engine life expectancy.
Remap with the standard turbo for pulling power and then if you want to go the next stage then think about forging the pistons at the very least. Graham |
+ 1 on Grahams comments in regards to the pistons, even on std engines they can fail, they crack around the ring lands.
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Start with an online shpping list, this will help keep you in check.
Lets me start it for you assuming your car is totally standard. VF35 Turbo / TD05 16g or 18g. STI Pink Injectors ** 3" decat full system (no cats) ** STI TMIC & Tray ** Walbro Fuel pump ** Uprated Panel filter Decent set of spark plugs ** 3 Port Boost solenoid Remap (open source or EcuTek?) I can help with some of the parts as im breaking an STI. I have marked** the parts above I have available. See Signature below for link to the parts. Rob |
Doesn't need the injectors, 06 wrx and sti same 550s.
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I have an 03 WRX so can only really comment on that but with the mods i fitted Duncan got me to 339hp, excellent chap, he comes to you and i cannot recommend him enough, my last map tweak with him he was running late due to traffic, as i had to wait for him after the map work on the dyno he only charged me £50 because of the inconvenience!
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Originally Posted by BrownPantsRacing
(Post 10364570)
Doesn't need the injectors, 06 wrx and sti same 550s.
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I think the 270-280 should be enough to start and it looks possible without too much hassle - i think the 03 is running about 260
Agree with GezP and one of the reasons for the new car, I'm expecting it to 'get gone' at lot quicker than than the 03 once the mods are done ;-) Ive sent a text to racedynamixs about remaping and the other half is laughing at me talking about a decat already. i did point out the o3 sounds better too I will be keeping it sensible though, I've had the 03 for 60k without a fault and only occasionally needed a bit more power - i need it to be reliable and every day transport |
If you do it right 1st time round, then you wont be needing to make a second effort becuase you got it wrong until you hunt for more power LOL
Remember although the mappers out there are bloody good at what they do, they cost a small fortune, so if your going to get it mapped, at least decide what you want to do and do it in one foul swoop, then at least you wont be going back for a remap time after time. Again I have a nice 3" Revolution Exhaust (only 12mths old) if your interested, not too loud for the daily commute, but is noticeably ready to scream when asked ;) Also looks subtle too with a straight exit and and not over facing rear silencer. Rob |
why did you not just buy and Sti in the first place. why people buy a WRX only to mod into an STi is beyond me. better brakes, better gearbox, better suspension, better interior.
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Originally Posted by bigsinky
(Post 10365031)
why did you not just buy and Sti in the first place. why people buy a WRX only to mod into an STi is beyond me. better brakes, better gearbox, better suspension, better interior.
Personally i think it's for two reasons: Cost. People might want to spread the cost or just spend more at a later date. Personally I had 10k and wanted a virtually brand new car and I knew no muppet had messed with it. Secondly, where's the bloody fun in buying a car already done. Personally I love the fact that mine is to the exact spec I want |
ref mechanic i can also give a massive thumbs up to Tim aka subas . he did my clutch on the drive for £160 and that was after a 2hr drive to get to me.. top bloke!!!
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Originally Posted by bigsinky
(Post 10365031)
why did you not just buy and Sti in the first place. why people buy a WRX only to mod into an STi is beyond me. better brakes, better gearbox, better suspension, better interior.
There is a big jump in purchase cost and I'm currently not doing brakes, gearbox, suspension or interior I also like the understated look of the WRX compaired to the LOOK AT ME STi wing, trim and stickers and I don't really like driving a car that the initials stand for sexually transmitted infection either < ;-) |
you will notice a big difference after a remap with mods such as a decat, turbo back system with up pipe and port your standard headers with an uprated fuel pump and an sti top mount intercooler along with a k&n panel filter and you will see torque figures of 340 ft/lb and bhp of around 290 or 300
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Originally Posted by uk300scoob
(Post 10365492)
you will notice a big difference after a remap with mods such as a decat, turbo back system with up pipe and port your standard headers with an uprated fuel pump and an sti top mount intercooler along with a k&n panel filter and you will see torque figures of 340 ft/lb and bhp of around 290 or 300
1 hawkeye wrx intercooler is fine for 300bhp no need for sti intercooler 2 you will not get those figures from a td04 . 280bhp max. fuel pump, decat exhaust system , panel filter. and a good mapper is all he needs on a hawk wrx to reach around 280bhp/310-20lbs thats what i got from those mods.. and if he wants to some cooler plugs but not needed.. i would also put a caik into the wing only another £70 .. your gunna do it anyway at a later date so may aswel get it in on first map lol |
Originally Posted by John Owen
(Post 10365104)
There is a big jump in purchase cost and I'm currently not doing brakes, gearbox, suspension or interior
I also like the understated look of the WRX compaired to the LOOK AT ME STi wing, trim and stickers and I don't really like driving a car that the initials stand for sexually transmitted infection either < ;-) |
Have to agree with above comments.
With the market in its current state, STI's are going for stupid money. The previous "I can't afford an STI" statements people used to make are starting to become less true as the STI prices get closer to WRX prices. You can pick up 06/07 Hawkeye STI's now with less than 50k on the clock for around £10k - that's pretty cheap. In some ways I'm almost regretting having spent the money I have on mine to get it where it is as I could've saved the money and bought an STI (eventually). Still, I have learnt a fair bit along my journey! I would honestly go for the best STI you can afford, and enjoy it whilst we can still all just about afford the petrol to put in em ;) |
Originally Posted by AN07 PTN
(Post 10365718)
two things
1 hawkeye wrx intercooler is fine for 300bhp no need for sti intercooler 2 you will not get those figures from a td04 . 280bhp max. fuel pump, decat exhaust system , panel filter. and a good mapper is all he needs on a hawk wrx to reach around 280bhp/310-20lbs thats what i got from those mods.. and if he wants to some cooler plugs but not needed.. i would also put a caik into the wing only another £70 .. your gunna do it anyway at a later date so may aswel get it in on first map lol 2. A CAIK is a bit of a waste of time and money unless the OP is going for 350+ bhp - the OEM airbox is perfectly capable of servicing cars running up to 350. 3. 310-320 ft/lbs isn't a bad figure - is that a 2.5 or a 2.0? |
Originally Posted by Bugeye_Scoob
(Post 10365840)
1. Mine made 281bhp on a TD04 and sports cat :lol1:
2. A CAIK is a bit of a waste of time and money unless the OP is going for 350+ bhp - the OEM airbox is perfectly capable of servicing cars running up to 350. 3. 310-320 ft/lbs isn't a bad figure - is that a 2.5 or a 2.0? 2: On yours that is absolutely correct, on the 2.5 it is a different story. The air box is rather restrictive. 3: On a fully decatted 2.5L you can see 360-370lb/ft relatively easily on the TD04. Decatted 2.0L should do 280-310lb/ft. Graham |
Originally Posted by EngineMapper
(Post 10365863)
2: On yours that is absolutely correct, on the 2.5 it is a different story. The air box is rather restrictive.
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Originally Posted by Bugeye_Scoob
(Post 10365828)
Have to agree with above comments.
With the market in its current state, STI's are going for stupid money. The previous "I can't afford an STI" statements people used to make are starting to become less true as the STI prices get closer to WRX prices. You can pick up 06/07 Hawkeye STI's now with less than 50k on the clock for around £10k - that's pretty cheap. In some ways I'm almost regretting having spent the money I have on mine to get it where it is as I could've saved the money and bought an STI (eventually). Still, I have learnt a fair bit along my journey! I would honestly go for the best STI you can afford, and enjoy it whilst we can still all just about afford the petrol to put in em ;) The best STi I could find was around £10k with plus 40tho on the clock, im paying signifigantly less for the WRX with 27k on the clock With a couple of basic mods it will more than fast enough for what I want, look better IMO and I still have around £2.5-3k in my pocket The brakes on the scooby are comedy on any model, once you've driven something with a good set up, AKA 911, the stopping power on the scooby is questionable to say the least - but thats how they roll from the factory Agreed it might need a tweak to suspension to firm it up a bit and I'm lashing on a set of wheels but even given these mods its still cheaper than an STi Collected the beasty last night have the mapper in on Friday, going for a straight remap under his advice. Keeping it very standard looking and no MOT blues but with a nice sting in the tail ;-) Considering wheels while using the tyres that are on it so if anybody hears of somebody selling 18' proline speedlines in grey give me shout I will feed back Friday after the map that Duncan is doing |
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