prodrive p2..... which turbo?
Hi folks,
Just a quick question as I couldn't find it in a search. I just caught a glimpse of the prodrive p2 on topgear and wondered, which turbo does the Prodrive P2 use? I'm guessing it's straight out of an STI but which one? Cheers :) |
I would have thought a VF43 but it runs anti-lag so maybe not.
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Ah I was kinda hoping it would be a vf43, it's what i've just put on mine haha
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I doubt it would be a vf series turbo, they would fart their blades out within 5mins!
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I thought the car sounded like a WRC and as it was a Prodrive demo car I wouldn't be surprised if they used some of the parts they had laying around.
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Originally Posted by L.J.F
(Post 10364173)
I doubt it would be a vf series turbo, they would fart their blades out within 5mins!
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Originally Posted by chopperman
(Post 10364203)
Any examples of when a VF43 has actually done this ??
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Originally Posted by noturbo
(Post 10364274)
Yeah why would it do that? I know they're not as strong as 20g's and some of the others but didnt the P2 only have around 340hp? My wrx is 340+ and thats with a vf43 with no problem. I gues the anti-lag might put more stress on it but i'm sure it's a little over exadurated about the vf's being so weak
There is another thread where its implied the 2.5 engine is weak without forged pistons only for tuners to state they have tuned several with standard internal and there still going strong. There does seem to be a lot of pub talk and p1ssing matches here with no real evidence sometimes.:lol1::lol1: |
I believe it runs a twin scroll engine so its not got a hope in hell of running a vf43 :lol1:
Tony:D |
Originally Posted by TonyBurns
(Post 10364381)
I believe it runs a twin scroll engine so its not got a hope in hell of running a vf43 :lol1:
Tony:D |
well i have a vf48 fitted to mine and its flutters like mad
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Originally Posted by chopperman
(Post 10364406)
Excuse my ignorance but i thought twin scroll didnt have turbo lag. The P2 is fitted with " rally-inspired anti-lag to prevent turbo lag". Maybe the twin scroll is the anti lag :lol1: If they used a single scroll maybe its the VF48?
Remember the P2 was an experimental prototype so why not put as much on it as you could? Anti lag is still not legal to use on the road anyway, if you hear the P2 you will tell just by that, that its not a single scroll unit, and the base of the car is that of a new age JDM with a fair few more additions fitted ;) Tony:D |
Originally Posted by TonyBurns
(Post 10364641)
And twin scroll Spec C's have anti lag locked on their ecu's ;)
Remember the P2 was an experimental prototype so why not put as much on it as you could? Anti lag is still not legal to use on the road anyway, if you hear the P2 you will tell just by that, that its not a single scroll unit, and the base of the car is that of a new age JDM with a fair few more additions fitted ;) Tony:D |
Originally Posted by TonyBurns
(Post 10364641)
Anti lag is still not legal to use on the road anyway,
Tony:D |
Originally Posted by Gava
(Post 10364627)
well i have a vf48 fitted to mine and its flutters like mad
I've got a vf43 with an sti top mount and k&n cone with standard dv, it dosn't flutter atall but you get HUGE induction noise when it's spooling and the standard recirc now sounds like a vta as it gives off a big woosh now, i'd rather have the flutter so gues dv delete is the way to go? |
Oh and wasn't the P2 made in 2007? I'm pretty sure the 2007 JDM STI spec-c had the vf43 fitted so I still think it's a possibility
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The vf43 is a single scroll turbo, the 2003-2007 spec c's come with a vf36 twin scroll roller bearing turbo, the spec c type ra-r, s203 & s204 come with the vf42 twin scroll roller bearing turbo.
Tony:) |
Originally Posted by MartynJ
(Post 10364776)
For a man with quite so many posts Tony, you don't half come out with some garbage :lol1:
You can have it fitted to the car, it has to be switchable, you can use it on track if they let you, you can use it on rally cars on closed road stages, but not on the public roads. Tony:) |
Originally Posted by chopperman
(Post 10364692)
I'm not disagreeing with you but im wondering how you know as i can't find any such info on it. Not even on the prodrive website. Talks more about the drivetrain than the engine.:D
You can find out more if you do the Prodrive tour ;) Tony:D |
Originally Posted by chopperman
(Post 10364203)
Any examples of when a VF43 has actually done this ??
A rally spec turbo would have been used and not something from a road car;) |
Originally Posted by L.J.F
(Post 10365224)
I used one before and it hated high boost, even the Vf48 i am using now wont take more than 1.65 without playing up. They wont hold high boost and proper anti lag.
A rally spec turbo would have been used and not something from a road car;) |
Originally Posted by TonyBurns
(Post 10365079)
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/2...odrive-P2.html
You can find out more if you do the Prodrive tour ;) Tony:D As for your link, it's doesn't say much, only the car is a 2L. A VF43 would be a turbo upgrade on a 2L so can't rule it out until proof rather than opinion is provided to the contrary. :thumb: |
I was over exagerating when i said that mate, but the Vf turbo's tend to develope cracks when running too much boost through them hence why most are not capable of high power so would not be capable of the performance that P2 produced as it would let go at that sort of power. The P2 was made from WRC spares and from memory the car hit 2bar of boost at something like 2000+ revs.
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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
(Post 10365076)
Why :confused: its not legal to use anti lag on the road.
You can have it fitted to the car, it has to be switchable, you can use it on track if they let you, you can use it on rally cars on closed road stages, but not on the public roads. Tony:) No law exists against it, if you can find the relevant law by all means provide the info. Martyn |
Originally Posted by L.J.F
(Post 10365676)
I was over exagerating when i said that mate, but the Vf turbo's tend to develope cracks when running too much boost through them hence why most are not capable of high power so would not be capable of the performance that P2 produced as it would let go at that sort of power. The P2 was made from WRC spares and from memory the car hit 2bar of boost at something like 2000+ revs.
As for the P2. The one thing about a concept cars is they can put what they like on it as its never going to cover thousands of miles. It's a pity really because i think prodrive would have sold a limited run of p2's quite easily. maybe the price would have been way over the 40k they suggested to get it to road reliability.:thumb: |
Originally Posted by MartynJ
(Post 10365682)
Twaddle !
No law exists against it, if you can find the relevant law by all means provide the info. Martyn This was on a discussion about flamer kits so i guess the same would apply as Anti-lag often produces flames :) |
It has a twin scroll hybrid turbo, I asked the lady when we were doing the Prodrive tour. I got told off for sitting in it though! :)
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Originally Posted by TH3_5T1G
(Post 10365711)
'Although if a flame is coming out of the exhaust like a flame thrower it will be an offence under section 40a of the RTA "Using vehicle in dangerous condition ". the same as whip aerials, sharp protrusions, loose bits etc etc.'
This was on a discussion about flamer kits so i guess the same would apply as Anti-lag often produces flames :) |
Originally Posted by MartynJ
(Post 10365682)
Twaddle !
No law exists against it, if you can find the relevant law by all means provide the info. Martyn That doesn't change the fact that it's an incredible feature and certainly brings a smile to my face :lol1: |
Originally Posted by Ryan@Indigo-GT
(Post 10365742)
I don't think there's a law that names anti lag as such, but I think it's fair to say every anti lag system I've come across would certainly fall under the remit of Section 59, "vehicles used in manner causing alarm, distress or annoyance"
That doesn't change the fact that it's an incredible feature and certainly brings a smile to my face :lol1: |
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