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nizmo80 17 November 2011 03:57 PM

alloy wheel refurb ripoff
 
hi

i have a set of 18" inovite redine alloy wheels on my scoob
they are a little bit lightly scratched but not to bad.
i phoned up several alloy wheel refurb companys in aberdeen
and i was getting quotes at £312 inc vat for all four.
heres the thing that pisses me off.
to buy the wheels off of ebay the price is £300 for the four alloy
wheels without tyres and brand spanking new.
so why would someone pay £312 to get there alloy wheels refurbed
when its cheaper to buy brand new.
some of these companys need to WINDE THERE NECKS IN.:nono:

tell us what you think guys.

does anyone know someone who can refurb alloys in the aberdeenshire area that is reasnobley priced.

also has anyone painted there wheels themselfs and if you did how did you do it and what paints did you use also is it lasting okay.

cheers guys :thumb:

ironbridge 17 November 2011 04:08 PM

hey, i painted my wheels. still look the same now maybe 5 months later.
just used spray cans, but i spent a long time on the preparation side - didnt clear coat them though as i wanted the matt finish like the original wheels.

heres the thread i posted when i did them:


Originally Posted by ironbridge (Post 10162438)
Well, I got a set of 18" OZ Prodrive wheels on Friday afternoon and have spent the entire weekend fixing them up/painting them!

Got them for the bargain price of 13,000 baht (260 quid) with tyres! 2 were shot but 2 were ok, Bridgestone Potenzas too!......couldn't believe I got them for this cheap. At one point I was considering buying some second hand ones from England and sending them over here because I've never seen any here before.

Gotta say I'm really pleased with how they look now. When I got them 2 of the wheels had been kerbed really bad so I got the good old polyester filler out and refurbed them myself. Painted them with rattle cans (gotta say the quality of the spray paint here is much better than the crap you get at Halfrauds, at a fraction of the price).

Here are some pics:

http://i816.photobucket.com/albums/z...heels2Copy.jpg
Gave them all a good sanding first and repaired any scratches or kerb damage.

http://i816.photobucket.com/albums/z...heels3Copy.jpg
http://i816.photobucket.com/albums/z...heels4Copy.jpg
Then a couple of coats of primer.

http://i816.photobucket.com/albums/z...heels5Copy.jpg
After that, the metallic black base coat.

http://i816.photobucket.com/albums/z...heels7Copy.jpg
http://i816.photobucket.com/albums/z...heels9Copy.jpg
Then on with the top coat.

http://i816.photobucket.com/albums/z...eels10Copy.jpg
http://i816.photobucket.com/albums/z...eels12Copy.jpg
http://i816.photobucket.com/albums/z...eels11Copy.jpg
http://i816.photobucket.com/albums/z...heels1Copy.jpg
Had some OZ stickers made up............and finished!


MattyB1983 17 November 2011 04:13 PM

Did mine myself to.
Pretty easy job and quite satisfying. Just take time in the prep as this is the most important part for a good finish.

nizmo80 17 November 2011 04:21 PM

wow mate you done a excellent job on your wheels mate

did you take some fine grit sand paper to them before you sprayed them
and what type of primer did you use.

settled i am gonna spray them my self. lol

topman2180 17 November 2011 04:22 PM

The first quote I got was £95 a wheel so I guess that beats your £312.

nizmo80 17 November 2011 04:24 PM

hi mate £312 was for all four mate

was that £95 for one or all four

cheers

Prototypetom 17 November 2011 04:25 PM

Sorry this has to be my first post but if a guy comes in the bodyshop i work at in a hawk eye scooby and gets quoted 2k for a full respray should i quote a guy who comes in a classic 500 because his car is is worth 2k max :nono:

If ur wheels are worth 300 or a grand paint and labor prices dont change thats just ridiculas on a lighter not get some elbow grease on em wheel refurbs are easy to do diy

Abx 17 November 2011 04:28 PM

Try not to compare it to the price of the Redlines, if you had wheels that were 2k new the refurb price would still be the same as the same work goes into in regardless.

I've always thought £60 a corner would be fair but 4 together and you are not far off your quote, give it a try yourself.

mik 17 November 2011 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by nizmo80 (Post 10336544)
hi

i have a set of 18" inovite redine alloy wheels on my scoob
they are a little bit lightly scratched but not to bad.
i phoned up several alloy wheel refurb companys in aberdeen
and i was getting quotes at £312 inc vat for all four.
heres the thing that pisses me off.
to buy the wheels off of ebay the price is £300 for the four alloy
wheels without tyres and brand spanking new.
so why would someone pay £312 to get there alloy wheels refurbed
when its cheaper to buy brand new.
some of these companys need to WINDE THERE NECKS IN.:nono:

Does it take them less time and less paint (or powdercoat) to paint cheap wheels as opposed to expensive ones?

I suspect not.

You are the consumer - if you don't like the quote - don't pay it!

alcazar 17 November 2011 04:33 PM

Local guy to me: £80 a wheel for heavy marking, £50 a wheel light scuffing.

nizmo80 17 November 2011 04:35 PM

hi i am relitivly new here aswell mate.
to be honest to spray a car is a lot of work really.
so i probibly would still charge the 2k if the amount of
work is the same as the hawk eye.
but here is something i have been looking at i found some guys that do full resprays for around £600 - £800 because i was thinking of spraying my civic type r white but then i sold it and bought a scoob.
but up here in aberdeen some garages charge 3k - 4k for a respray.



Originally Posted by Prototypetom (Post 10336590)
Sorry this has to be my first post but if a guy comes in the bodyshop i work at in a hawk scooby and gets quoted 2k for a full respray should i quote a guy who comes in a classic 500 because his car is is worth 2k max :nono:


Prototypetom 17 November 2011 04:37 PM

Im trying to say mate just because u got cheap rims a refurb is a refurb regardles of if ther 300 or a grands worth n the scoob is just a example wouldnt touch a car for 2k and paint i use wouldnt be coverd by 600

topman2180 17 November 2011 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by nizmo80 (Post 10336587)
hi mate £312 was for all four mate

was that £95 for one or all four

cheers

£95 a corner , £380 for all four wheels.:eek:

I shouldnt be more than £200 for all four.

nizmo80 17 November 2011 04:47 PM

yea you guys are right i am going to spray them myself.
i think around £50 per wheel is fair to do a powdercoat
i still think £312 for all four is a rip off.
around 10 years ago i used to do shotblasting and powdercoating
at a company called ljf powdercoating in aberdeen doing everything from alloy wheels to farm equipment.
so i know exactly what is involved in the whole proccess and what i know is £312
is a rip off

syko89 17 November 2011 04:48 PM

just because you have cheapo alloys doesnt mean the price for powdercoating is going to be affected. theres a fair amount of work involved including:

remving tyres
chemical strip
acid primer etching
powdercoating
baking
possibly waxing
fitting and balancing tyres

thats just powdercoating, not even including refurbing which takes alot of time.

£300 for a set of 18's with a refurb needed to all alloys is pretty reasonable tbh.
Yes you can pay less at other places or do them yourself with rattle cans but its the quality in the powder finish that makes them durable and they wont flake/chip away.

Also, yes im sure you can get your car resprayed for £600, but i can assure you it will look **** afterwards and probably have laquer peel, orange peel, dust under paint, not properly prepped etc....


basically you get what you pay for...

addi monster 17 November 2011 04:55 PM

metal magic in barnsley £40 a pop powder coated, courrier £27 (paisley freight) get em sent there m8

Prototypetom 17 November 2011 04:55 PM

Pay penuts get monkeys

addi monster 17 November 2011 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by Prototypetom (Post 10336638)
Pay penuts get monkeys

they aint monkeys pal, google them, very very highly rated by all that uses them, but yes i have been stung before by companies charging the same price range:(

ditchmyster 17 November 2011 05:04 PM

I did mine DIY but took a slightly different route.

Had all the wheels sand blasted for £25.00 then got a local cheapo body shop to paint them for £50.00 and also sold 2 of the old tyres for £40.00

So had 5 shiney new alloys for £35.00 :D

I don't do space savers :nono:

topman2180 17 November 2011 05:04 PM

no need to pay over £300 for a powdercoat when everyone else pays between £150-£200.

Maggy did mine , they came back spot on and they didn't cost £300.

nizmo80 17 November 2011 05:10 PM

i am not saying the £600 respray is going to look like a picasso
i am just saying there is difference in price from the £600 upto
the £ 3000 to £4000 pounds the garages charge up in my area.

if you read what i wrote in the top post you would read that my wheels are not scuffed or marked just lightly scratched so all i was interested was a powdercoat and as all that work you mentioned
i used to do it myself years ago and i know exactly whats involved
so you really dont need to tell me.
i am not a guy that wants something for nothing i am a guy who just likes a fair deal.



Originally Posted by syko89 (Post 10336627)
just because you have cheapo alloys doesnt mean the price for powdercoating is going to be affected. theres a fair amount of work involved including:

remving tyres
chemical strip
acid primer etching
powdercoating
baking
possibly waxing
fitting and balancing tyres

thats just powdercoating, not even including refurbing which takes alot of time.

£300 for a set of 18's with a refurb needed to all alloys is pretty reasonable tbh.
Yes you can pay less at other places or do them yourself with rattle cans but its the quality in the powder finish that makes them durable and they wont flake/chip away.

Also, yes im sure you can get your car resprayed for £600, but i can assure you it will look **** afterwards and probably have laquer peel, orange peel, dust under paint, not properly prepped etc....


basically you get what you pay for...


ironbridge 17 November 2011 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by nizmo80 (Post 10336582)
wow mate you done a excellent job on your wheels mate

did you take some fine grit sand paper to them before you sprayed them
and what type of primer did you use.

settled i am gonna spray them my self. lol

used different grits and had to filler some of the deep scratches, primered them, sanded again, base coat and then final colour.

it's dead easy but when i painted them i kind of 'dusted' the paint on - i painted really light coats over and over again rather than using thick coats and getting runs in the paint

ironbridge 17 November 2011 05:13 PM

cant remember what primer i used.

i think i used about four cans of primer, and four cans of colour.

the most important thing is to take time when your sanding them so that everything is super-smooth

L&G.scooby 17 November 2011 05:20 PM

Hi ironbridge. Sorry to highjack ( just a little bit) but I to am also thinking of doing my wheels. Ironbridge, you have the same wheels as I do so going to borrow one of you pics and see if I can get them photo shopped onto my blob.

nizmo80 17 November 2011 05:22 PM

cheers ironbridge i hope my alloys turn out as nice as yours mate

was that four cans per wheel mate?


Originally Posted by ironbridge (Post 10336669)
cant remember what primer i used.

i think i used about four cans of primer, and four cans of colour.

the most important thing is to take time when your sanding them so that everything is super-smooth


ironbridge 17 November 2011 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by L&G.scobby (Post 10336686)
Hi ironbridge. Sorry to highjack ( just a little bit) but I to am also thinking of doing my wheels. Ironbridge, you have the same wheels as I do so going to borrow one of you pics and see if I can get them photo shopped onto my blob.

sure no problem.


Originally Posted by nizmo80 (Post 10336689)
cheers ironbridge i hope my alloys turn out as nice as yours mate

was that four cans per wheel mate?

no, for all four.

nizmo80 17 November 2011 05:28 PM

cheers addi monster i will look them up mate thanks
that is what i call a fair deal mate


Originally Posted by addi monster (Post 10336636)
metal magic in barnsley £40 a pop powder coated, courrier £27 (paisley freight) get em sent there m8


pimmo2000 17 November 2011 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by ironbridge (Post 10336566)
hey, i painted my wheels. still look the same now maybe 5 months later.
just used spray cans, but i spent a long time on the preparation side - didnt clear coat them though as i wanted the matt finish like the original wheels.

heres the thread i posted when i did them

http://i816.photobucket.com/albums/z...heels1Copy.jpg:

I'm no mathematician but how many wheels does that car have ?

nizmo80 17 November 2011 05:43 PM

i have a set of 4 18" redlines mate
i also have a set of 4 17" alloys aswell dont know what kind.
so i am going to enquire about the powder coat on the 18"
from the company mentioned above but after looking at the job you done on your wheels mate i am going to probably going to give it a try to spray them myself and if it doesnt turn out so well i can send them to the powdercoaters mentioned above.


Originally Posted by pimmo2000 (Post 10336731)
I'm no mathematician but how many wheels does that car have ?


The Zohan 17 November 2011 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by MattyB1983 (Post 10336572)
Did mine myself to.
Pretty easy job and quite satisfying. Just take time in the prep as this is the most important part for a good finish.

Yup easy as long as you put the prep time in and do not rush the paining, building up coats of paint you can get a really good finish


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