What Diesal? £10-15k
 

What do you reckon?

Not too keen on VAG, but BMW 3 series?

i had a seat leon fr, very good car imo, I paid 14,500 for it six months old

I think I'm after something more like a 3 series. I don't just want a pure utilitarian box or I'd get a Civic like pslewis. ;)

i see, just be carefull if buying a bm, as you will have to pay extra for all the options so potentially there are a lot of "basic" specced cars out there. Dont buy a honda diesel, they are a disaster area! a big appetite for oil makes them throw the towel in if your not checking it all the time

has to be the legacy 2.0 d i wud love one to use as my taxi

BMW 123d or Volvo C30 D5

engines are chocolate though lol :cry:

really only ever heard good about them even top gear liked it:confused:

Alfa 159, just never, ever buy new, let someone else suffer the first years' depreciation.

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330d plus a 280bhp remap :)

As above

Or push the boat out and hunt out a 335D

What's the fuel economy like on 'em, and is the auto box any good>

not the diesel, clarkson said it was the only diesel he ever drove with no torque and no power. Plus they go wrong all the time, timing chains and common rail problems

100k on the auto box and then they can develop problems, very costly

Have had a 320D M Sport and now a 330D M Sport. Fabulous cars. Just feel so nicer inside and to drive than say an Audi. Used to be a big VAG fan but now, It's BMW all the way. :thumb:

As mentioned above, 123d - absolutely brilliant engine (for a diesel!).

Octavia every time

Cheap to run and maintain

BMW dealers will have your pants down at service and repair time s

Is that manual or auto? I think I may be heading in this general orientation.

What's the Merc equivalent BTW? Not as good?

Where did you hear this,mate? I was thinking of one for the Mrs,never heard any bad reports before. Please pass me the links to the bad press and I can either barter or look elsewhere. Thanks for the heads up :thumb:

330D BMW would be my choice too:cool:

http://pistonheads.com/sales/2998091.htm


cos theyre not supposed to be exciting

Hate to say it but dep on what u want I'd go

Civic ex for gadgets
BMW
Skoda

Swap BMW for civic if u want power and get 330d

They are very utilitarian like a Toyota Camry (shudder).

I could never get a Civic for the dreadful 'wedge' looks, plus as mentioned the engines are rubbish (which must be true because someone said so on the internets).

I have a vrs as my main car and love it, 17k brand new, with all the kit you would ever want. Remap to 210 job done

Worth a look at the mondeo titanium x loads of kit even if its just a test drive I've got the ghia x as my taxi kick its head in all night lol

a good freind is a mobile engine management specialist, he is used by all the main dealers round my way. A very knowlegable chap, he is involved in lots of common rail, dpf, dmf, engine management and ecu faults, i can only go by his say so on the subaru diesels. But he has been to several with terminal engine problems (not old cars at all) they required new engines.

Freaks me out that story
I have an Impreza diesel and I love it

Very fast 49mpg and very smooth engine

Lots of bad press in telegraph etc about diesels and problems with them

I have ran in the last 15 years
Pug 106d
Then
Rover touring
Then
Skoda octavia L&K which ran to 72k 6 years before I swapped to the
WRXd
And never replaced anything on a diesel engine
Maybe they don't build them like they do

The octavia averaged 55mpg over 6 years and it was an estate and a massive load carrier too and good value for money
When I was a general manager I needed a car that I could load up with furniture and the A4 / BMW were too small and ultimately too expensive compared to the skoda which was great for money and service items cheap too

dont get me wrong, im not scare mongering, lots of others go wrong too (mostly lucas delphi stuff!) and im sure there is a fair chance your subaru will be fine, just i have heard the evidence of some failures, but then it is still a new engine so there may well be early production niggles to sort out, and im sure yours is still under warranty?