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mastarasta47 28 June 2011 04:40 PM

Misfire problem classic
 
first of all my car is a 1996 jdm wrx saloon
jus fitted..

Walbro 255
Front Mount
EL headers
550cc injectors
NGK PFR 7B plugs
new coil packs
and had it mapped by duncan @ racedynamix, simtek

when under load it develops a misfire which bogs it down, around 6k mark,
any ideas? all the coil packs are new + plenty of fuel getting in

Baz82 28 June 2011 05:46 PM

Have you brought it back to The person that mapped it?

Matt Sills 28 June 2011 06:17 PM

Can you tell how many cylinders are misfiring? does it misfire at idle ?

zakscooby1 28 June 2011 06:36 PM

Spark plugs gapped properly?

snake1906 28 June 2011 08:14 PM

id say spark plugs 1st! even if they are new

harvey 28 June 2011 09:48 PM

Drop gap on NGK PFR 7Bs to 6.5mm even .6mm to eliminate them.
Where did the new coil packs come from and how much did you pay?
Was this misfiring during mapping and if so what was Duncan's advice?

john5f 28 June 2011 10:55 PM

As Harvey said, what did Duncan say?

Does it rev freely in neutral?
- also, under load when not up to full operating temperature?

Try checking for high resistance in wiring to plugs when engine is hot.

Terminator X 29 June 2011 02:04 PM

My slight misfire was sorted by removing the (newish) Racing 8's & putting 7B's in with gap at 0.6mm ... runs like a dream now.

TX.

dynamix 01 July 2011 08:06 AM

I replaced 3 coilpacks for better condition used items (3 completely fell apart) when doing the initial mapping and cleaned the plugs up as best I could but the misfire still persists (although less than prior) - it ideally needs 4 new coilpacks and pfr7b gapped plugs to rule that out (whether permanent additions or borrowed). Potential for fuel pump weakening causing it but mixture was bang on the money so unlikely and fuel tables logical. It is a process of elimantion really. Getting a clean spark would be a good starting point IMO.

mastarasta47 08 July 2011 03:50 PM

cheers for advice, checking the gap on the spark plugs tonight! lets hope it works

mastarasta47 12 July 2011 11:47 PM

ok, gapped the plugs at 0.6 and changed the crank sensor still no joy :|, whats next? getting pretty fed up, considering giving it to a garage to sort out!

Gary B 13 July 2011 04:32 PM

Hi,

I had something very similar on my MY99 recently, car missing and detting after 6k rpm on a rr session. Turned out to be my Crank Position Sensor - it was miss-reading over 6k rpm, showing as high as 11k rpm at one point! This of course triggered the ECU to kick the rev limiter in, which induces a rather severe miss-fire!

Changed the sensor and the car revved cleanly to the red line and all traces of det were gone.

I do still have an issue with the turbo not holding the full level of boost it should at higher rpm, but other than that it's going well.

Sensor was £170 FYI...that hurt!

Best of luck.

Cheers,

G.

P1Drifter 13 July 2011 06:20 PM

ditch the crappy old style coil packs and fit newage ones

Jamz_ 13 July 2011 09:25 PM


Originally Posted by P1Drifter (Post 10134527)
ditch the crappy old style coil packs and fit newage ones

+1 - best and easiest thing to do:
http://www.jamessimpson.co.uk/classi...ack-conversion

mastarasta47 13 July 2011 10:22 PM

any one able to do this conversion near colchester? pm me a price

EngineMapper @ Group B Motorsport 13 July 2011 10:37 PM

I'll put a lot of money on it still being a coil pack problem. They should either be replaced with genuine new ones, or replaced with newage ones really.

Graham

addi monster 13 July 2011 10:57 PM

i have a set of 4 in perfect working order if you want them £55 posted, cant be fairer than that,, pm me if your intrested,,, steve

P1Drifter 13 July 2011 11:52 PM


Originally Posted by addi monster (Post 10135196)
i have a set of 4 in perfect working order if you want them £55 posted, cant be fairer than that,, pm me if your intrested,,, steve

newage ? if so i know someone who will have them if the op dont want then

Terminator X 14 July 2011 12:12 AM

For £55 you'll be inundated with buyers!

TX.

mastarasta47 14 July 2011 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by addi monster (Post 10135196)
i have a set of 4 in perfect working order if you want them £55 posted, cant be fairer than that,, pm me if your intrested,,, steve

ill take them, pm me your details

P1Drifter 14 July 2011 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by mastarasta47 (Post 10135849)
ill take them, pm me your details

make sure there newage mate, otherwise your throwing your money away !

mastarasta47 14 July 2011 06:05 PM

will do!


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