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yoza 19 April 2002 07:25 PM

The car MY01 WRX,The question as above.
Please reply with,description of mod/mods and price fitted.
Spoke to Graham at TSL today he has somthing in the pipeline but would like other opinions,thanks
Yoza

yoza 19 April 2002 07:28 PM

Sorry BUY instead of BY:)......IDIOT

john coffey 19 April 2002 07:29 PM

Litchfield imports cars are doing a 40bhp package for £1,991 inc VAT.
http://www.litimports.co.uk/subaru/wrxper.html

scooby-babe 19 April 2002 07:44 PM

http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/angryfire.gif Hey - that is our holiday money http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/fight.gif

yoza 19 April 2002 07:54 PM

http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/grrr.gifdon't you hate it when that happens!!

Still more replies please... :D

Divorce looming.... http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/cheezysmile.gif

polarbearit 19 April 2002 08:48 PM

Yep, I'd have thought so -

Unichip - circa £500 mapped
Full exhaust - £500-800 dependant on make, less if secondhand
Induction Kit - £160

Should give you 50 PE BHP - ie 265bhp-270, probably about 255 PS BHP ;)
If you've got a little more then with an uprated IC should be good for 285bhp

polarbearit 19 April 2002 08:51 PM

Just looked back at the litchfield setup and I'm think that is what they are selling anyway, and with the suspension/geometry sorted too... Looks like a good deal, and I suspect its Power Station that are fitting the kit too.

yoza 20 April 2002 01:46 AM

Thanks keep them coming.....Im takin it all in.
Sorted a caravan in Rhyl for the missus:D

polarbearit 20 April 2002 09:28 AM

Just had another thought - buy a second car... RWD cossies are cheap and I'm sure you can get one with about 270bhp @ a sensible price!!!

boultsy 20 April 2002 10:46 AM

yoza, your cars from Belgium isn't it.

You could get the PPP and keep your warranty but your only looking at a figure of around 245, maybe 250 with a ITG panel filter. You could try that out and see if your happy with that, the numbers are a bit meaningless really it's how it feels.

A few of us have been trying to get an idea of how much a group buy from Belgium would be on the PPP, so far I think we're looking at around a grand.

That leaves you with a grand for the holiday to keep the misses happy(best of both worlds), or a brake upgrade:D

If once you've had it fitted and your still not satisfied you could sod the warranty and follow the Scott Parker (plus a few others on here) route and go for a full de-cat. Figures vary from 271 to 285, mind scott has got ported headers and a few other bits, but I'd think 270+ is a conservative figure for a PPP + full de-cat from what I've seen posted on here and that gives you your +50 target:). No personal experience though I'm still STD minus a few tarty bits.

OR do it all in one go, don't have prices for a full ScoobySport system minus the BB and centre that's supplied with the PPP but I'm sure someone will have an idea.

Take a look at PCB PE's RR figures from march, that'll give you a better idea of what you can get from what.

Happy shopping.



[Edited by boultsy - 4/20/2002 10:51:57 AM]

polarbearit 20 April 2002 10:55 AM

APS do a couple of complete performance packages too... (275bhp & 315bhp)

boultsy 20 April 2002 11:01 AM

hello bear.

Here's a good example of the APS system from a satisfied scoobynetter:D


burnside 20 April 2002 11:07 AM

Yoza,
This isn't a dig nor is it sour grapes, but why do you wish to make an already fast car even faster by blowing 2 grand just get an extra 50bhp?
Once your car does 0-60 in 5 secs, and has a top speed of over 140mph what benefit will another 50bhp add?
If I were you I'd spend the cash and have a good holiday, that will bring much more enjoyment than handing it over to a garage.
But having said that if you can afford to spend £2k, go for it.
That's just my opinion.

Richie1 20 April 2002 03:48 PM


ouch.... thats the thing that puts me off ever going Jap..... tuning costs.

For £1200 you can get 110BHP upgrade on the car I have.


Si James 20 April 2002 04:10 PM

More power = needs bigger brakes.
Have you factored that into the costs?

Si

yoza 20 April 2002 05:50 PM

Thanks for the replies,
Didnt think about brakes:(
Like the PPP group buy idea,but was told (by reputable scource)that its not what its made out to be:eek:
As for spending money on holiday instead of my car,much rather spend on the car,when you come back off your hols thats it gone.
But the cars there for as long as you want it:)
Apparently Ive been told that bhp isnt the "be all and end all" anyway,its about makeing the power youve got more useable.Graham at TSL has invited me down to drive his car,to see how the power delivery is compleatly different to a standard WRX,and yet he says its not in the region of 270 brake:confused:
Thanks again for the replies,just off to the local airport to fill up with some aviation fuel......interesting:)

chrisp 20 April 2002 07:40 PM

Its torque which makes the car feel quick. A good spread of torque at low revs makes the car more driveable and tractable. Just drive a VTEC, great engine but the max torque is high and the max bhp is very high. Fortunately they rev very easily and some people like them but you have to work the engine hard 7000+ rpms to get the best out of them which IMHO is great for the first few miles but can become tiring.

People chase big bhp figures but end up with a car that is so peaky its very difficult to drive and pointless IMHO.

F1 car 18,000 rpm and 800+bhp, great cars but I wouldnt want to nip to tescos in one ;).



[Edited by chrisp - 4/20/2002 7:59:01 PM]

Harry_Boy 20 April 2002 09:03 PM

Sorry to hijack the thread, but is it possible in theory to fit the PPP but retain the standard exhaust? If so, what are the likely output/torque figures? My wife's got an aversion to noisy exhausts.....

PS. We're talking MY02 wagon.

yoza 20 April 2002 10:03 PM

Change the wife,and get more performance..........thats a new one:)

Harry_Boy 21 April 2002 11:30 PM

Cheers Yoza - but changing the wife's even more expensive....

The Man From Rangoon! 22 April 2002 12:23 AM

i have a96 uk spec,with only a turbo back stainless de-cat pipe,k+n induction kit +dawes boost controller..dynoed at 264bhp= less than £700! u will find that the scoobysport downpipe makes a mahoosive improvement,not only in throttle response but will make it rev right to the limiter

boultsy 22 April 2002 04:11 PM

Harry the new centre and BB you get with the PPP are the same diameter and foot print as those they replace so you should be able to swap between the 2 BB's. The wife might not notice:D, if she does switch back over the original BB and sell the Prodrive one to bring that PPP prices down even further.

As for figures between the 2 BB's from what I've seen quote on here your probably only looking at a max of 4 bhp. I think the main restriction is in the centre rather than the BB.

Si James 22 April 2002 10:05 PM

Not if you take her on vacation to Columbia...........
one way ticket of course.....and big insurnace policy.

;-)

Si

Harry_Boy 22 April 2002 11:01 PM

Hi Guys - thanks for the tips! Boultsy, I reckon your suggestion might just be a bit safer than Si's. My brother in law can be a bit of a meathead.....


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