Heaven is a fairy story for people afraid of the dark
 

Says Stephen Hawking:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...raid-dark.html

Hawkings is a very clever but stupid and arrogant man at the same time.

Ha ! What would he know about it? He's only been studying at the cutting edge of human research into the nature of matter and the Universe for his working life, whereas every fule knows the Bible tells you everything you need to know about how the Universe was created! How dare he belittle a 2000 year old sheepherders story (based on previous belief systems of Egypitians/Sumarians etc)!

What an arrogant idiot!

And why cant he just respect that other people have different unexamined antiquated beliefs that we brainwash our children with?

Its an arguable point which cannot yet be proved either way.

Les

Maybe that's why god turned him into a dribbling vegetable who has to poop in a bag. Beware the blasphemous!

Uh-oh..... :o


:norty:

He'll go to Hell now for that. ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNeq2Utm0nU
:lol1:

HA HA :luxhello:

For an intelligent man to "assume" what can or cannot be proved, he obviously has SOOOOO much experience being stuck in a wheel chair and lots of space travel that he does (not). Science is simply best guess.

Ive seen some freaking weird stuff with mediums and I do believe something happens when you pop your clogs. Im as rational as the next person, but some things in life (a good medium) shows you that we know <nothing> about the universe.

Carl, does it make you uncomfortable that there are people out there vastly more intelligent and knowledgable than you? ;)

Science very well maybe a best guess, but it is a logical best guess. A medium provides a service, all they offer is their best guess.....which IMO isn't as methodical or logical as science!

Hawking FTW!!:)

Personified in LEGO !

http://www.webinapage.com/wp-content...wking-Lego.jpg

:thumb: Fair play to Hawking for having the balls to come out with something which is clearly correct, but un-PC to say so.

Religion is just an out-dated way of thinking and should have no influence on modern society (although the PC do-gooders ensure that's not that case).

Right or wrong, the most important message coming out of that article which of course will be overlooked by the religeous nutters is that you should make the most of your time on earth, rather than waiting for something better to come along :thumb:

So ... I don't believe in anything at all. My wife is Catholic and my children are brought up Catholic.

They are currently 11 and 8 and have a peace that I do not, that there is a greater being, that things are fine when you die. They still make the most of life, but think, "know" that there is something that will give them everlasting life.

I think that there is an eternity of blackness, nothingness and what is the point?

I know what I would prefer ....

Steve

Isn't it the Rapture this week? I wonder what Steven will say when he's burning in the Lords fire. I'm going looting.

Are we allowed to talk about the Rapture? It's a bit terrorist.

Exactly! And when confronted by two arguements, one backed by repeatable demonstrable evidence and the other something that people have believed for 2000 years with no supporting evidence other than the holy word, its clear which side people should lend credence to! I rest my case!

and

WoW! Just WOW!......

I would argue that this is the main reason for religion in the first place. To help sentient life make sense of what happens to it when it dies.

Essentially what he says.

I must admit, that made me laugh out loud, thanks! :thumb:

Geezer

A best guess? That's quite ironic when compared to reilgious texts, which have no grounding whatsoever :rolleyes: What would you call the bible then?

Yes, something does happen when you pop your clogs, you rot, or get burned, or in some cases get eaten...... However, your brain is little more than a set of electrical impulses and storage media, and like them, when you switch it off, it's gone, because unlike flash storage, the storage medium rots away.

As for mediums, the only weird stuff they do is convince any right minded person that they are really mediums! :lol1:

Geezer

simply a comfort blanket for the thick

Religion is based on belief, not fact.
You can believe the world to be flat all you like. Doesn't mean it is.

If people are happier in a state of blind faith then so be it, let them be happy. Surely all it takes for God to exist is for someone to believe.

Where it all goes so badly wrong is when one faction objects to the other faction's beliefs/preferences. A little bit of live and let live would see us all a lot better off.

As already said (many times) you can't prove or disprove the existence of heaven, and perhaps we shouldn't try. After all we are all surely going to find out the truth in good time.

Personally I happen to agree with the learned professor. But that's my choice and I'm comfortable with it.

As for science being a best guess.. :Whatever_ :lol1:

Very well said.

Based on what exactly?

He should study some philosophy and culture because he sounds like a philistine.

Science isn't wisdom and neither is intellect.

Is that a scientific statement?:lol1:

Hawkings is trying to say that religion is moral weakness, but for Kierkegaard it was the opposite with the 'leap of faith'....the 'fear and trembling' of taking that risk.

Really, where does he say that? I would say he's going for rational weakness. But he obviously a philistine who knows nothing, so its easy to disregard him, in fact being in a wheelchair is clearly gods punishment! Anything else would be inconceivable

Taking a quote from this thread here:

https://www.scoobynet.com/non-scooby...e-we-know.html

5% of it is stuff we know
20% of it is dark matter (??)
75% of it we have no idea

Maybe the 75% is heaven. :wonder: