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stevebt 02 May 2011 08:56 PM

1080 or 720p
 
The missus wants me to swap the tv's from our two lounges. One has a 50" plasma with 720p res and the other room which I use more has a 42" 1080P led lcd tv. I'm only interested in the quality for my xbox and ps3.

If I were to get the plasma tv would the games look as good or should I tell her to get lost and keep the led tv :)

stuart69 02 May 2011 09:02 PM

i use 1080p on the xbox,much better:thumb:



Now give me your gamertag you HOMO:hjtwofing

SirFozzalot 02 May 2011 09:33 PM

1080p is obviously the better quality, but check the games you're playing because you may find that a lot of them only run at 720p anyway.

Brun 02 May 2011 09:33 PM

Why don't you try it?

kingofturds 02 May 2011 09:36 PM

She should be in the kitchen, what difference does it make to her :D

CREWJ 02 May 2011 09:45 PM

These days I wouldn't even consider getting a 720p TV

stevebt 02 May 2011 09:56 PM


Originally Posted by CREWJ (Post 10019226)
These days I wouldn't even consider getting a 720p TV



It was bought before 1080p tv's were out and it was a ridiculous price :(

stevebt 02 May 2011 09:57 PM


Originally Posted by stuart69 (Post 10019085)
i use 1080p on the xbox,much better:thumb:



Now give me your gamertag you HOMO:hjtwofing


Mine is banned but my daughters isn't, I just need to add some internet time :D What games are you playing on the xbox?

Jamo 02 May 2011 10:21 PM

1080p the difference isnt massive but its a difference for sure.

:thumb:

Luminous 02 May 2011 10:27 PM

2 lounges? nice, just get one and see what the difference is. Don't see the point in changing the 1080p LED one, not going to be a difference there. LED is generally the best for computers anyway.

stuart69 02 May 2011 10:41 PM


Originally Posted by stevebt (Post 10019254)
Mine is banned but my daughters isn't, I just need to add some internet time :D What games are you playing on the xbox?


COD.................Thats the only game i play:thumb:


Add me....pastehead


ps....when is are next day out:wonder:

BlkKnight 03 May 2011 09:44 AM

It's all down to the size of the telly and the distance you are sitting from it.

There's a formula on AV forums somewhere.

Personally I'd go for 1080p (not 1080i)

Leslie 03 May 2011 10:20 AM

1080 means more and smaller pixels on the screen so all types of picture will look better regardless of the definition used.

Les

alloy 03 May 2011 10:30 AM

from the normal viewing distance of a sofa, 50" 720 should look the same as 42" 1080, plus the fact that most games play on 720.....

michaelro 03 May 2011 12:46 PM

How long do games get played on the 42" now?

Thinking about screen burn on the Plasma if it is an older model....

Jamz3k 03 May 2011 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by Leslie (Post 10019764)
1080 means more and smaller pixels on the screen so all types of picture will look better regardless of the definition used.

Les

I disagree, 1080p screens can struggle with SD signals. More pixels, means more scaling.

Jamz3k 03 May 2011 01:32 PM

There is a useful graph online that shows you at what distances you will notice the difference between 1080P and 720P. From memory on anything less than 50" TV's you had to be rediculously close to the TV.

Leslie 03 May 2011 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by Jamz3k (Post 10020038)
I disagree, 1080p screens can struggle with SD signals. More pixels, means more scaling.

I can only report what I have seen, and it is as I said, the SD sigs are better quality that they used to be on my older set. Have not noticed any struggling so far anyway.

Also seemed significant that if you stand next to the screen you can hardly see the pixels as on my earlier TV where they were quite large..

Les

Jamz3k 03 May 2011 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by Leslie (Post 10020147)
I can only report what I have seen, and it is as I said, the SD sigs are better quality that they used to be on my older set. Have not noticed any struggling so far anyway.

Also seemed significant that if you stand next to the screen you can hardly see the pixels as on my earlier TV where they were quite large..

Les

Ah but there is the difference, you are comparing an older TV to a newer TV.

bioforger 03 May 2011 07:01 PM

SD tv really is definitely poorer @1080p compared to 720p, as said it has to upscale more information as a result you see more of the imperfections in a SD signal. Proper HD is sweet though.

nickwrxstiV2 03 May 2011 07:13 PM

I'd becareful of screen burn on the Plasma if using it solely for games.

ScoobyJawa 04 May 2011 12:23 AM


Originally Posted by BlkKnight (Post 10019729)
It's all down to the size of the telly and the distance you are sitting from it.

There's a formula on AV forums somewhere.

Personally I'd go for 1080p (not 1080i)

+1

And the reason why I have a 50" HD Ready plasma, because the distance I view at I wouldn't see the difference.

And have a 105" PJ which is 1080p which means when I really want to I can use that!!!

ScoobyJawa 04 May 2011 12:24 AM


Originally Posted by nickwrxstiV2 (Post 10020650)
I'd becareful of screen burn on the Plasma if using it solely for games.

I suffer no screen burn at all on my Viera plasma, not like the LG it replaced.

Leslie 04 May 2011 04:37 PM

I am unable to compare 720 with 1080 so cannot comment, but I do know that my picture quality on SD improved appreciably when I got the 1080 tv.

Of course its a newer TV Jamz but the improvement was certainly due to the large increase of the smaller pixels available. My earlier TV had a very good picture for what it was but not by any means in the same league as now.

Les

Jamz3k 04 May 2011 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by Leslie (Post 10022252)
I am unable to compare 720 with 1080 so cannot comment, but I do know that my picture quality on SD improved appreciably when I got the 1080 tv.

Of course its a newer TV Jamz but the improvement was certainly due to the large increase of the smaller pixels available. My earlier TV had a very good picture for what it was but not by any means in the same league as now.

Les

Without trying to argue with you, I'd say it has nothing to do with the amount of pixels or size and more to do with the advancements in processing and scaling technology.

I have no doubt your picture is better, I just very much doubt its down to the amount of pixels on the screen.

If someone is close enough to see individual pixels on a screen it would suggest to me they bought their TV from Curry's possible with the help of Barry the friendly sales advisor.:p

stevebt 04 May 2011 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by ScoobyJawa (Post 10021393)
I suffer no screen burn at all on my Viera plasma, not like the LG it replaced.


Its a 50"LG plasma :( Are they bad for screen burn?

ScoobyJawa 04 May 2011 08:37 PM

Depends on its age I guess, this one was a 42" from I would say about 3 years ago - it was horrendous, Sky menu, games etc, only had to be on a short time then you could see the image still there. I'd never have one again due to that set but I can't comment on if the newer ones are better.

Paid 599 for the LG, sold it a year later for 400 on ebay, and bought the 50" panny for 589 :eek: never looked back! As said, I've never seen any burn in with that at all.

Leslie 05 May 2011 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by Jamz3k (Post 10022324)
Without trying to argue with you, I'd say it has nothing to do with the amount of pixels or size and more to do with the advancements in processing and scaling technology.

I have no doubt your picture is better, I just very much doubt its down to the amount of pixels on the screen.

If someone is close enough to see individual pixels on a screen it would suggest to me they bought their TV from Curry's possible with the help of Barry the friendly sales advisor.:p


It was about 5 years old when I changed to the newer one. It was a Panny plasma and I don't know what the resolution was. HD had not arrived then. Obviously the older standard before HD was on the cards. Probably 640 pixels X 480 lines. Those are appreciably large pixels. The old SDTV pixels were oblong too while modern pixels up to HDTV standard are square which will also have an effect on the quality.

It was a good tv but nowhere near in the class of my present Panny.
Your last sentence is not quite right somehow. If you stood close to the screen you could see the pixels at the screen resolution it had, my present one doesn't show them. 1080 pixels x 1024 lines is a significant difference.

Don't quite understand what the Barry that you mentioned has got to do with standing close to the screen. Try reading it again! Thank you nevertheless for your kind and so polite insinuation about my incompetence and total dependence on a rogue salesman

Les :rolleyes:

joz8968 06 May 2011 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by BlkKnight (Post 10019729)
It's all down to the size of the telly and the distance you are sitting from it.

There's a formula on AV forums somewhere...

Screw that formula. :sleep:

I watch a front projected 720p image at 67" diagonal.... But sitting (lying :D) only 1.8m away!!! :eek: It's pretty much the equivalent of being in the middle row of a superplex! :norty: :thumb:


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