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ScoobyStu82 27 April 2011 12:43 AM

Is Subaru Going Soft....
 
My neighbour has bought a brand new wrx sti Impreza which is very nice but........I think its a little subtle for a Scooby.

I was looking on here at some Scoobies old and new and honestly believe that the newer the model the more soft they have become. Don't get me wrong, there are some stunning modified new shape examples around but out of the factory I think they're looking to much like the average 5 door family car.

I know Im probably gonna get raped for saying it but its just my humble opinion!

Loco 27 April 2011 12:45 AM

true. saw a new sti in the showroom the other day. would suit a "legacy" name badge very well, as it looks completely understated. but where are the crazy spoilers we all know and love?! haha

andythejock01wrx 27 April 2011 12:47 AM

Yup, take away the spoilers and it just looks like any other small family car!

MattyB1983 27 April 2011 01:12 AM

They appeal to a wider audience with more subtle looks I suppose.

ghplumb 27 April 2011 01:28 AM

Depends which model STi
The Hatch looks better than the Saloon
Looked at a dark metallic grey hatch STi in Stan Palmers and it is anything but soft or subtle :cool::cool:

Aeneema 27 April 2011 01:29 AM


Originally Posted by ScoobyStu82 (Post 10008697)
My neighbour has bought a brand new wrx sti Impreza which is very nice but........I think its a little subtle for a Scooby.

I was looking on here at some Scoobies old and new and honestly believe that the newer the model the more soft they have become. Don't get me wrong, there are some stunning modified new shape examples around but out of the factory I think they're looking to much like the average 5 door family car.

I know Im probably gonna get raped for saying it but its just my humble opinion!


The "A-Line" Impreza WRX STI has its rear wing removed.

ghplumb 27 April 2011 01:49 AM


Originally Posted by Aeneema (Post 10008718)
The "A-Line" Impreza WRX STI has its rear wing removed.

The new STi Saloon has no rear spoiler as Standard now

checksum 27 April 2011 05:59 AM

I think the American market gets the spoiler as standard.

MrNoisy 27 April 2011 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by checksum (Post 10008750)
I think the American market gets the spoiler as standard.

Correct. Understated yes but at least it doesn't look like a Rover 25 anymore ;)

tony de wonderful 27 April 2011 08:28 AM

I've never driven one but aren't they more accessible to the average Driver?

MrNoisy 27 April 2011 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by tony de wonderful (Post 10008832)
I've never driven one but aren't they more accessible to the average Driver?

In terms of price - no!
They've taken what was previously a fairly raw car (certainly in classic form), and made it look more like a Mondeo inside and out.
The handling is apparently much better than the outgoing hatch version, and it certainly looks a lot better, but again they've been too restrained.
Don't get me wrong, the Mondeo is a good value car, but being a comfy business car that doesn't stand out from the crowd isn't really what an Impreza is or ever has been about.

Those who wanted a toned down version in terms of looks had the spec D versions to choose from.
I don't see why Subaru have seen fit to try and dull down the very car which is such a big part of their brand to many people.
They have the Legacy and Forester (again both good cars - just not Impreza quick) for those who want to be a little more sensible.
So what exactly are they doing....:wonder::wonder::wonder:

Mark82 27 April 2011 09:43 AM

As far as i know the spoiler for the new saloon is an option or thats what the Peterborough sales team said, looks far better with a spoiler,

The Trooper 1815 27 April 2011 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by Bugeye_Scoob (Post 10008898)
In terms of price - no!
They've taken what was previously a fairly raw car (certainly in classic form), and made it look more like a Mondeo inside and out.
The handling is apparently much better than the outgoing hatch version, and it certainly looks a lot better, but again they've been too restrained.
Don't get me wrong, the Mondeo is a good value car, but being a comfy business car that doesn't stand out from the crowd isn't really what an Impreza is or ever has been about.

Those who wanted a toned down version in terms of looks had the spec D versions to choose from.
I don't see why Subaru have seen fit to try and dull down the very car which is such a big part of their brand to many people.
They have the Legacy and Forester (again both good cars - just not Impreza quick) for those who want to be a little more sensible.
So what exactly are they doing....:wonder::wonder::wonder:

The JDM Legacy 2.0 l Twin Scroll Spec B GT and Forester 2.5 STi are Impreza quick and better specced than UK models (have owned both). But they will not imported them due to Euro Emission laws.

Moley 27 April 2011 10:49 AM

So in 1994 the Turbo 2000 looked like a cutting edge car?

f1_fan 27 April 2011 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by MattyB1983 (Post 10008711)
They appeal to a wider audience with more subtle looks I suppose.

Not according to the UK sales figures they don't!

wigsworld 27 April 2011 12:07 PM

In answer to the question, no I don't think so. Just because they don't have massive spoilers or gold wheels (although you can still get these if you want) doesn't mean they're soft. They're still a great drive, even better with a few tweaks from Litchfields. They're not pretty but still have presence and look really cool in my opinion, certainly wouldn't swap one for a focus or golf.

checksum 27 April 2011 02:01 PM

I think I would definitely have one, although it would have to be a saloon with a spoiler.

http://www.visionale.net/wp-content/...u-impreza-.jpg

http://www.visionale.net/wp-content/...impreza--2.jpg

jura11 27 April 2011 02:21 PM

Great test
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4CfW...yer_detailpage

Arkynsei 27 April 2011 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by jura11 (Post 10009363)

Entertaining test, I agree. But he doesn't have give the Scooby some stick, makes a mockery of it basically.

Even looking at the latest Impreza.. I can't see what they're trying to do.. looks horrendous. The looks stopped at Hawkeye in my opinion.

checksum 28 April 2011 10:23 AM

And unfortunately the looks started with the EVO 10 :(

I think I read somewhere the looks of the new scoob were to do with Subaru getting back to their Nakajima roots as far as styling goes.

checksum 28 April 2011 10:28 AM

We need more of this!

http://www.subdriven.com/news/upload..._rally_sti.jpg

c_maguire 28 April 2011 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by tony de wonderful (Post 10008832)
I've never driven one but aren't they more accessible to the average Driver?

I take it you mean it's easier for fat blokes to get in and out of them


Originally Posted by Moley_WRX (Post 10009037)
So in 1994 the Turbo 2000 looked like a cutting edge car?

It looked rather dull didn't it, as did the Evo of a similar age.


Originally Posted by checksum (Post 10009334)
I think I would definitely have one, although it would have to be a saloon with a spoiler.


http://www.visionale.net/wp-content/...u-impreza-.jpg

http://www.visionale.net/wp-content/...impreza--2.jpg


I think the hatch is hideous, but that saloon is not too bad. Probably something to do with distancing the product from the whole 'hot hatch' thing.

ScoobyDoo69 28 April 2011 11:47 AM

Everytime a new Impreza comes out everyone always says it's hideous. You then learn to love after you see one with a couple of mods!

B4D HK 28 April 2011 12:01 PM

:thumb:

Originally Posted by checksum (Post 10010752)

:thumb:

f1_fan 28 April 2011 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo69 (Post 10010882)
Everytime a new Impreza comes out everyone always says it's hideous. You then learn to love after you see one with a couple of mods!

And then there's the hatch.

Don Clark 28 April 2011 12:14 PM

Having had in the past, a turbo 2000, a P1, and a much modded Forester.
It's a great car................ :thumb:

https://www.scoobynet.com/showpost.p...5&postcount=25

ScoobyDoo69 28 April 2011 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by f1_fan (Post 10010921)
And then there's the hatch.

The hatch can look awesome..

urban 28 April 2011 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by Moley_WRX (Post 10009037)
So in 1994 the Turbo 2000 looked like a cutting edge car?


:lol1:
Not a chance - ugly as sin

urban 28 April 2011 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by ghplumb (Post 10008717)
Depends which model STi
The Hatch looks better than the Saloon
Looked at a dark metallic grey hatch STi in Stan Palmers and it is anything but soft or subtle :cool::cool:

Couldn't agree more - hatch STI looks agressive

tony de wonderful 28 April 2011 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by c_maguire (Post 10010845)
I think the hatch is hideous, but that saloon is not too bad. Probably something to do with distancing the product from the whole 'hot hatch' thing.

The look like someone made a car out of wax, then left it in the sun and it melted a bit.


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