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joz8968 24 February 2011 05:00 PM

UK 6-SP. v. JDM DCCD 6-SP...???
 
As above, some Qs...

* Were they fitted to ALL of the New Age STis i.e. from MY01 Bug STi through to the current MY08 hatch STi?

* Is the UK non-DCCD/longer geared 6-sp. stronger/less stressed than the JDM DCCD/close ratio version?

* What kind of max. torque will each one happily run for everyday fast road driving?

* 2nd hand, do they fetch pretty much the same dosh as each other (for like for like mileage/condition)?

dunx 24 February 2011 05:22 PM

If only it were that simple...

For a bug-eye...

1. UK cars had longer fifth & sixth gears, and weak synchros...
2. JDM cars obviously had lower as above.
3. Any special models i.e.Type-RA had DCCD

This all changes around the WR1, a UK car with DCCD...

BY the Hawkeye I'm lost...

HTH

dunx
P.S. Torque isn't an issue, they are all very strong. IMHO

Eternal Rage 24 February 2011 05:30 PM

The MY05 onwards STi'd have 6sp DCCD-A aswell...

joz8968 24 February 2011 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by dunx (Post 9900709)
If only it were that simple...

For a bug-eye...

1. UK cars had longer fifth & sixth gears, and weak synchros...
2. JDM cars obviously had lower as above.

So the UK had longer 5th and 6th only? i.e. so were gears 1-4 same ratios as the JDM DCCD ones then?



Originally Posted by dunx (Post 9900709)
...Torque isn't an issue, they are all very strong. IMHO

Yeah, nothing to trouble them then (unless the driver's an utter dickhead). ;)

joz8968 24 February 2011 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by Eternal Rage (Post 9900723)
The MY05 onwards STi'd have 6sp DCCD-A aswell...

I take it the MY03 Blob STi had it too (API Dave's JDM Blob defo has the DCCD-A)... Plus non-DCCD for UK MY03 STi (ignoring the WR1)?

C. J. 24 February 2011 05:47 PM

Drop gears are different
jdm 1 >1
uk 1>1.1
Had a jdm dccd box 70 is 3200 rpm , uk is 2750rpm and the hawk box that i now have is 2600rpm at 70 . thats 70 on the clock not gps.
think what your using the car for and choose for application .

joz8968 24 February 2011 05:56 PM

Cheers. This is info for both me and my mate.

We both might get used Blobs or Hawks in the future that have had the works done to them e.g. full frame turbo/forged/stroker, etc. and 550+ bhp. We'll both defo get non-DCCD UK STi's as we both don't wish to have the extra 'tail happiness' that the DCCD-A box/diff provides. We'll only be using them on the road....

Eternal Rage 24 February 2011 07:48 PM

~Sorry, i meant to say that MY05on STi 'UK' cars had the DCCD-A as your post suggested that it was only the JDM cars had DDCD.

joz8968 24 February 2011 08:43 PM

Ah, so ALL Hawk STis, regardless of JDM or UK, got DCCD-A! My mate won't be pleased to hear this...

Eternal Rage 25 February 2011 01:10 AM

Yup, UK Blobeye MY05 Sti (like mine) and UK Hawkeye MY06+ Sti

banny sti 25 February 2011 08:51 AM

The earlier dccd split was 65/35 and from 05 changed to 59/41 iirc

dunx 25 February 2011 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by joz8968 (Post 9900768)
Cheers. This is info for both me and my mate.

We both might get used Blobs or Hawks in the future that have had the works done to them e.g. full frame turbo kits, etc. and 550+ bhp. We'll both defo get non-DCCD UK STi's as we both don't wish to have the extra 'tail happiness' that the DCCD-A box/diff provides. We'll only be using them on the road....

There isn't any DCCD related tail happiness... it's just the extra torque of the 2.5 IMHO. Mine has plenty enough torque and it isn't an issue. You can change the rear ARB if you want slideways driving.

dunx

P.S. 2 litre STI + hawkeye DCCD box

joz8968 25 February 2011 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by Eternal Rage (Post 9901728)
Yup, UK Blobeye MY05 Sti (like mine) and UK Hawkeye MY06+ Sti

Can you give me the date (or month in 2005) for when the UK Blob changed to DCCD-A?

Eternal Rage 25 February 2011 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by joz8968 (Post 9902523)
Can you give me the date (or month in 2005) for when the UK Blob changed to DCCD-A?

Nope, it wasnt a set date, my car is a 2004(54) first register 10/04 but a MY05... yet i have seen cars first registered in 2005 that Dont have DCCD.

Easiest way of telling a DCCD's Blob from a picture is that they have an extra trim, kinda like a wheel arch extension over the rear wheel arch.

Like this:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y19...3/IMG_2300.jpg

TonyBurns 25 February 2011 04:10 PM

Even with the above it may not have A-DCCD as euro imports had this as an optional extra so you can get an MY05 STI without DCCD (IM put 1k on the price of the MY05 STI's to cover the A-DCCD cost).

Tony:)

joz8968 25 February 2011 08:59 PM

Ha. I'll just have to ask a prospective seller to take a picture of the area around the handbrake, and of the dash clocks then, to confirm... ;)


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