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99greenwagon 08 February 2011 09:08 PM

would you modify a car with 77k on clock?
 
hi,is it advisable to start modding a classic sti with 77k on the clock or is it asking for trouble?
full service history etc,runs nice,just had exedy pink clutch and new flywheel,but is it tempting fate to mod up to around 320 bhp on a type r with that sort of mileage on the clock?
last thing i need to be forking out for is a rebuild etc or are these jap cars good for it?
i was thinking of simtec etc.:wonder:

birchy2010 08 February 2011 09:10 PM

If it's been well looked after and in good condition I don't see why not. No more chance of it going bang than any of the cars been modified if it's been looked after correctly.

bighead 08 February 2011 09:14 PM

yes ....but I would factor in a rebuilt forged engine if yr going to keep it for any length of time though :)

99greenwagon 08 February 2011 09:22 PM


Originally Posted by bighead (Post 9870203)
yes ....but I would factor in a rebuilt forged engine if yr going to keep it for any length of time though :)

why?......,it would only be raising power another 50bhp? i do plan on keeping it,its in mint condition inside and out,and mechanically.

99greenwagon 08 February 2011 09:23 PM


Originally Posted by birchy2010 (Post 9870190)
If it's been well looked after and in good condition I don't see why not. No more chance of it going bang than any of the cars been modified if it's been looked after correctly.

its been very well looked after and fully maintained.:thumb:

53 08 February 2011 09:25 PM

It's not asking for trouble but you will accelerate the demise of the already tired serviceable parts :) including gearboxes ! :)

krisr1978 08 February 2011 09:26 PM

320bhp should be fine on a type r for everyday use

Terminator X 08 February 2011 09:26 PM

TBH the classic STi's tend to blow up (sorry!) as when they were imported most peeps didn't realize they need 100ron fuel so were running them on 95 or 97 :nono: ... allow for a rebuild at some point as noted above ;)

TX.

midnight 08 February 2011 09:30 PM

Personally what are you waiting for:Suspiciou,77k on a 10+ year old car with fsh,should be able to take it easily .My 99 uk turbo with no forged botom end had 133k on the clock and went from 215 to 317 bhp and actually drove like it was built yesterday. If in doubt pm one of the mappers on here ,but i'am sure they will say the same + loads of people on here with V4/5 sti's mapped past 320 bhp Tony burns for one if i am not mistaken:thumb:.

KAS35RSTI 08 February 2011 09:30 PM

77k is nothing, thats when you just break the Hymen.

99greenwagon 08 February 2011 09:31 PM


Originally Posted by Terminator X (Post 9870233)
TBH the classic STi's tend to blow up (sorry!) as when they were imported most peeps didn't realize they need 100ron fuel so were running them on 95 or 97 :nono: ... allow for a rebuild at some point as noted above ;)

TX.

mines only had one owner and was told always ran on tesco 99 and v power.
ive always filled it with v power since purchase.
with the cost of modding and a rebuild:eek:,i may just leave it standard as i cant afford a rebuild,that would be around 2.5k wouldnt it?:(

Terminator X 08 February 2011 09:33 PM

What year was it imported fella as T99 / V Power didn't exist 10yrs ago ...

TX.

99greenwagon 08 February 2011 09:34 PM


Originally Posted by Aladdin (Post 9870244)
77k is nothing, thats when you just break the Hymen.

sorry but what is hymen?:confused:

acstua 08 February 2011 09:34 PM

LOL

53 08 February 2011 09:35 PM

If it were me I would still get it mapped with a Sports cat or like and just make it the best it can be on good servicing and a happy engine map :) Trust me you can lose £10k very quickly on a classic without even noticing ;)

53 08 February 2011 09:36 PM


Originally Posted by 99greenwagon (Post 9870257)
sorry but what is hymen?:confused:

It's a book nuns sing from in church ;)

KAS35RSTI 08 February 2011 09:36 PM

:lol1:

99greenwagon 08 February 2011 09:39 PM


Originally Posted by Terminator X (Post 9870255)
What year was it imported fella as T99 / V Power didn't exist 10yrs ago ...

TX.

imported from new 1998,but obviously must have been running on super unleaded,i hope lol.
it does run superb and has full history,
its completely standard v4 sti type r with full oe exhaust and no mods at all,
it went on the rollers at alan jefferys producing 267/251.
i though that was a very healthy engine considering its 13 years old and only lost a few horses from the "quoted figures" from new.
280 ps i believe is 276bhp so loseing 9 bhp over 13 years running on v power seems pretty good?:)

stevie1982 08 February 2011 09:40 PM

End of the day plenty of people run high power throughout standard blocks and internals, I know of a few that has done 400 and have no issues same with the gearbox, they maintain it, treat it with sympathy so no drag starts of the lights, I ran my p1 for a year on a standard block around 340 of each with no problems. The issue is even a standard block can let go so you and I say this lightly there should be no reason that at 320-340 you should have any more worry then how it is now

99greenwagon 08 February 2011 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by 53WRX (Post 9870265)
It's a book nuns sing from in church ;)

:cuckoo::lol1:

99greenwagon 08 February 2011 09:42 PM


Originally Posted by stevie1982 (Post 9870285)
End of the day plenty of people run high power throughout standard blocks and internals, I know of a few that has done 400 and have no issues same with the gearbox, they maintain it, treat it with sympathy so no drag starts of the lights, I ran my p1 for a year on a standard block around 340 of each with no problems. The issue is even a standard block can let go so you and I say this lightly there should be no reason that at 320-340 you should have any more worry then how it is now

i drive with care,i dont rag the tits out if it and would not do drag starts.i dont like things breaking!:thumb:

DJ_Jon 08 February 2011 09:45 PM

Talk to Alan & Martyn, they will tell you how far to push it without killing it. At 77k it could live for a long time at the current power, or a much shorter time at a higher output. If it were mine, I would just get it mapped with a decent exhaust & filter. If the motor goes pop, get a second hand one from the sales section.

99greenwagon 08 February 2011 09:47 PM


Originally Posted by 53WRX (Post 9870264)
If it were me I would still get it mapped with a Sports cat or like and just make it the best it can be on good servicing and a happy engine map :) Trust me you can lose £10k very quickly on a classic without even noticing ;)

if i did modify,one of my hicups is that i need to keep the car extremely quiet,i dont like loud exhausts,the full standard system with both cats and oe sti backbox is just right,is it worth having a simtec and still keeping these in place? whats the best options to keep it quiet?

OcTag3n 08 February 2011 09:47 PM


Originally Posted by 99greenwagon (Post 9870257)
sorry but what is hymen?:confused:

I've popped a few of them in my time.:norty:

Terminator X 08 February 2011 09:48 PM

Stevie - the point I make is that the Ver V / VI STi's do tend to "go" so best budget for the worst case IMHO ie whether the OP upgrades it or not ... the engine in my STi V did "go" after all - it was imported to UK as new too :cry:

TX.

99greenwagon 08 February 2011 09:49 PM


Originally Posted by DJ_Jon (Post 9870300)
Talk to Alan & Martyn, they will tell you how far to push it without killing it. At 77k it could live for a long time at the current power, or a much shorter time at a higher output. If it were mine, I would just get it mapped with a decent exhaust & filter. If the motor goes pop, get a second hand one from the sales section.

thanks craig,i want to keep the car quiet,is there any gains from fitting a simtec to a standard car with standard exhaust etc?

53 08 February 2011 09:50 PM

My 1995 wagon was unmolested when I got it at 70k, 320bhp and similar torque 8k miles later,I need a new gearbox :) Can't stress enough how tight and minty my wagon was. Engine is fine but the transmission gets tired and the last thing it needs is more stress. Oddly enough as the clutch ages the stress becomes less, I think it's no coincidence that the newly biting and completely awesome exedy pink helped it on it's merry torque stripping way :)

99greenwagon 08 February 2011 09:50 PM


Originally Posted by Terminator X (Post 9870316)
Stevie - the point I make is that the Ver V / VI STi's do tend to "go" so best budget for the worst case IMHO ie whether the OP upgrades it or not ... the engine in my STi V did "go" after all - it was imported to UK as new too :cry:

TX.

was it standard?

Terminator X 08 February 2011 09:52 PM


Originally Posted by 99greenwagon (Post 9870325)
was it standard?

Very, no mods at all.

TX.

99greenwagon 08 February 2011 09:52 PM


Originally Posted by 53WRX (Post 9870322)
My 1995 wagon was unmolested when I got it at 70k, 320bhp and similar torque 8k miles later,I need a new gearbox :) Can't stress enough how tight and minty my wagon was. Engine is fine but the transmission gets tired and the last thing it needs is more stress. Oddly enough as the clutch ages the stress becomes less, I think it's no coincidence that the newly biting and completely awesome exedy pink helped it on it's merry torque stripping way :)

and theres me thinking.......better put a decent clutch in it!(and flywheel)
dont skint on the parts......??:lol1:


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