ScoobyNet.com - Subaru Enthusiast Forum

ScoobyNet.com - Subaru Enthusiast Forum (https://www.scoobynet.com/)
-   ScoobyNet General (https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-general-1/)
-   -   Link Engine Management " Any Good " (https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-general-1/871401-link-engine-management-any-good.html)

EH52WRX 05 February 2011 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster (Post 9862277)
Somebody can supply, fit and map a syvecs including dyno time for £1500, if I fail to mention the VAT like others have in their post :) lol but I mentioned the dyno time also which they didnt.

Link G4 I believe will cost you £860+VAT for the unit and then mapping of upto £400+VAT + dyno time..

There is also obviously the SimTek option

Simon

Simon, is the link g4 ecu any good.

Jolly Green Monster 05 February 2011 10:21 AM

Yes they aren't bad but you are nearly at syvecs money which is very very good.

Simon

Jolly Green Monster 05 February 2011 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by MMT WRX (Post 9862350)
Are you referring to my post?

yes

MMT WRX 05 February 2011 11:36 AM

Oh right, why? All I've done is try and point someone at an ad that I found whilst researching this myself, with a visible price. I couldn't see if it was ex/inc VAT so I added a link for him to check out himself.
Is there something wrong with that, have I broken the rules or something?

grahamc 05 February 2011 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by EH52WRX (Post 9861594)
Were you expecting 470 bhp

no, was expecting 450-460 max

Jolly Green Monster 05 February 2011 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by MMT WRX (Post 9862673)
Oh right, why? All I've done is try and point someone at an ad that I found whilst researching this myself, with a visible price. I couldn't see if it was ex/inc VAT so I added a link for him to check out himself.
Is there something wrong with that, have I broken the rules or something?

No nothing wrong, just 20% vat makes comparing prices with and without pointless etc :)

I was only being cheeky, but maybe I need to put my syvecs pricing up

Aarts 05 February 2011 12:34 PM

Buying ecu in UK is much much expensive then buying from New Zealand, where the ecu made.

MMT WRX 05 February 2011 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster (Post 9862765)
No nothing wrong, just 20% vat makes comparing prices with and without pointless etc :)

I was only being cheeky, but maybe I need to put my syvecs pricing up

Well before you do, what would you recommend for an R33 GT R and pricing? I've been looking at Link G4 as they seem to get positive comments on the Skyline forums, do you do these.
PM if you prefer. :thumb:

Jolly Green Monster 05 February 2011 10:07 PM


Originally Posted by Aarts (Post 9862809)
Buying ecu in UK is much much expensive then buying from New Zealand, where the ecu made.

Will they sell it to you and post to uk? Will have to pay import duty etc

Jolly Green Monster 05 February 2011 10:11 PM


Originally Posted by MMT WRX (Post 9863163)
Well before you do, what would you recommend for an R33 GT R and pricing? I've been looking at Link G4 as they seem to get positive comments on the Skyline forums, do you do these.
PM if you prefer. :thumb:

They are a capable ecu, only reason I dont actively sell then is the cost compared to simtek / syvecs but thats different for the gtr as there is no simtek but syvecs works with a loom adaptor but cost is then greater. The link g4 is a good choice for it.

Simon

stevebt 05 February 2011 11:01 PM


Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster (Post 9862277)
Somebody can supply, fit and map a syvecs including dyno time for £1500, if I fail to mention the VAT like others have in their post :) lol but I mentioned the dyno time also which they didnt.

Simon

Excellent price Simon, in the normal domestic market not charging VAT is king :D

MMT WRX 05 February 2011 11:04 PM


Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster (Post 9864109)
They are a capable ecu, only reason I dont actively sell then is the cost compared to simtek / syvecs but thats different for the gtr as there is no simtek but syvecs works with a loom adaptor but cost is then greater. The link g4 is a good choice for it.

Simon

Ok thanks for that, so out of interest, what would a Syvecs cost including the loom adaptor and are there any benefits over the G4. I mentioned the G4 to one place and was told they were crap and to get a Syvecs.:wonder:

Im getting as bad as my Mrs picking bloody shoes :D

Aarts 05 February 2011 11:14 PM

Actually i'm not in UK, but yes they will send you. Isn't New Zealand part of UK or was(Queen is same:) )?But i dont know will there import tax or not. But you can talk to them on skype and bargain for prices. I got bargain from two PnP link ecus.And if other ecus, mentioned here before,
havent't got base map, then the tuning will take longer.Link has oline support and forum where you can ask advice if you need it.One more good thing that link has is autotune(tuning AFR). You can turn autotune on and then go to tune ignition map.


Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster (Post 9864093)
Will they sell it to you and post to uk? Will have to pay import duty etc


Jolly Green Monster 05 February 2011 11:31 PM


Originally Posted by stevebt (Post 9864275)
Excellent price Simon, in the normal domestic market not charging VAT is king :D

I didnt mean I didnt or wouldnt charge vat, I meant the other price quoted had vat no top.

Although I can see my post quoted looks that way

Simon

jura11 05 February 2011 11:32 PM

What i know this ECU is from no more than few which support AVCS(Gems,Syvecs and Link),great for owners JDM WRX or WRX which want run AVCS
This ECU is on mine list with GEMS(this have AdgeSpeed for £650) and Syvecs(best price is which i found £1600 including VAT and mapping etc.).




Jura

Jolly Green Monster 05 February 2011 11:40 PM


Originally Posted by MMT WRX (Post 9864285)
Ok thanks for that, so out of interest, what would a Syvecs cost including the loom adaptor and are there any benefits over the G4. I mentioned the G4 to one place and was told they were crap and to get a Syvecs.:wonder:

Im getting as bad as my Mrs picking bloody shoes :D

Syvecs is many times better than a link yes.

Tbh creating a loom adaptor for a gtr is not a job I would take on, I dont get time or the interest to know them inside out like subarus, mapped a fair few but creating a loom adaptor is more involved.
If serious you could try zen performance as I believe he has done loom adaptors for them.

Simon

MMT WRX 05 February 2011 11:56 PM


Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster (Post 9864347)
Syvecs is many times better than a link yes.

Tbh creating a loom adaptor for a gtr is not a job I would take on, I dont get time or the interest to know them inside out like subarus, mapped a fair few but creating a loom adaptor is more involved.
If serious you could try zen performance as I believe he has done loom adaptors for them.

Simon

OK thanks again. :thumb:

Aarts 06 February 2011 12:14 AM


Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster (Post 9864347)
Syvecs is many times better than a link yes.

:lol1::lol1::lol1: cos it made in uk it dosent make it better. Syvecs dosnt even have onboard loging:)And the homepage dosnt say anything about map size, what is important to know.
Best is to compare ecus specifications and see what you need and what you dont and then compare prices(available support to).
If go any cheaper you need to buy megasquirt:)

Jolly Green Monster 06 February 2011 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by Aarts (Post 9864394)
:lol1::lol1::lol1: cos it made in uk it dosent make it better. Syvecs dosnt even have onboard loging:)And the homepage dosnt say anything about map size, what is important to know.
Best is to compare ecus specifications and see what you need and what you dont and then compare prices(available support to).
If go any cheaper you need to buy megasquirt:)

I was making my decision from mapping and installing both, from driving cars on both, from the specifications on both from ringing syvecs and suggesting additions to the software and them being added. There is on board logging on syvecs.
Originating company wasnt part of my decision although seeing as this is a uk website one would assume 99.9% of the people on here are in the uk therefore support and backup being in the uk is an advantage.

If you cant find info you want regarding map size for example then pop into the forum and post the question www.syvecs.co.uk

Simon

Jolly Green Monster 06 February 2011 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by Aarts (Post 9864308)
Actually i'm not in UK, but yes they will send you. Isn't New Zealand part of UK or was(Queen is same:) )?But i dont know will there import tax or not. But you can talk to them on skype and bargain for prices. I got bargain from two PnP link ecus.And if other ecus, mentioned here before,
havent't got base map, then the tuning will take longer.Link has oline support and forum where you can ask advice if you need it.One more good thing that link has is autotune(tuning AFR). You can turn autotune on and then go to tune ignition map.

Syvecs allows wideband lambda closed loop fueling, 8position cal switch (different fuel maps, different boost etc there are 4 ignition maps and 4 fuel maps), you can add inputs of various sensors (oil pressure, oil temp etc and setup engine trips on them ie. Kill the engine if oil pressure drops below 4bar at 5000rpm, 2bar at 1000rpm etc, set the rev limit to 4000rpm if the oil temp goes over 120, all configurable on values). You can control dccd diff within the ecu, the logging is configurable so you can log what you want.
Boost control usual plots a straight line on the dyno etc plus lots more just tip of the iceburg

There is import tax from nz yes.

Aarts 06 February 2011 10:47 AM

Now hear is plenty facts about these ecus:) And dont take me as link salesman, cos i'm not. I just like how easy to use it.I got Pnp link (G3)half a price from £1600.But this was about two year ago:)

Jolly Green Monster 06 February 2011 10:50 AM

Don't get my wrong Aarts its a good bit of kit, and being as you are in NZ where they are made etc it make a lot more sense to use one.

But from my point of view selling and installing ecu, the price here in the uk is not much different between Syvecs and Link and the Syvecs is a lot better.

SimTek and Link is a closer comparison price and function wise etc.

Simon

MartynJ 06 February 2011 11:05 AM

Mapped a few Vipec ecus on Evos guys. Nice little ecu but not in the same league as the Syvecs, but then to be fair, little is at this moment in time.

Martyn

Aarts 06 February 2011 11:05 AM

No i'm not in New Zealand i'm in Estonia:) And yes i dont know what taxes will come if order from NZ to UK.

EH52WRX 06 February 2011 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by MartynJ (Post 9864795)
Mapped a few Vipec ecus on Evos guys. Nice little ecu but not in the same league as the Syvecs, but then to be fair, little is at this moment in time.

Martyn

So what is the difference in the two Ecu's. :D

EH52WRX 06 February 2011 11:46 AM

And can the link ecu be lived mapped, or only on roller.

MartynJ 06 February 2011 01:12 PM

Syvecs has far more features built in, much better data logging and safety kill options.
If it is too expensive then look at the Simtek as a viable option. It is missing a few of the features the Syvecs offers, but has very user friendly software and a good UK dealer support network.

In regards to mapping, yes both can be live mapped, but whether that takes place on the road or rolling road is up to the mapper.

EH52WRX 06 February 2011 04:11 PM

Thx Martyn & JGM for your input, I think i have made my mind up, and i will be going for a Link Extreme G4. There are a couple of reasons. No one does Syvecs in scotland, its over priced IMO, I can get a link ecu for about half the price, and as far as skyline owners are concerned its a great bit of kit. Thanks again for all your input. :thumb: :thumb:

jura11 06 February 2011 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by MartynJ (Post 9865081)
Syvecs has far more features built in, much better data logging and safety kill options.
If it is too expensive then look at the Simtek as a viable option. It is missing a few of the features the Syvecs offers, but has very user friendly software and a good UK dealer support network.

In regards to mapping, yes both can be live mapped, but whether that takes place on the road or rolling road is up to the mapper.



Simtek is useless ECU,is step to nowhere for JDM WRX or WRX with AVCS,because can control AVCS,don't have closed loop idle,just because have Mafless feature,ALS or LC.Simtek is overpriced as well IMHO.Without the Mafless or ALS is Simtek just piece of crap.
And if you are like Mafless or ALS you can turn your OE ECU to Speed density via Group N ROM

Syvecs have features like Link or GEMS,if someone don't like map these ECU its doesn't mean these ECU are wrong.


Jura

MartynJ 06 February 2011 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by jura11 (Post 9865446)
Simtek is useless ECU,is step to nowhere for JDM WRX or WRX with AVCS,because can control AVCS,don't have closed loop idle,just because have Mafless feature,ALS or LC.Simtek is overpriced as well IMHO.Without the Mafless or ALS is Simtek just piece of crap.
And if you are like Mafless or ALS you can turn your OE ECU to Speed density via Group N ROM

Syvecs have features like Link or GEMS,if someone don't like map these ECU its doesn't mean these ECU are wrong.


Jura

TRIPE, the SimTek is a very capable ecu.
It most certainly can control AVCS on models fitted with it a stock and can be adapted to run it on earlier cars.
I have personally never found not having closed loop idle a problem and have fitted or mapped in excess of 80 units from stock cars to 650bhp monsters.
I also run 2 in my own cars.

I don't know what your beef with SimTek is and personally don't want to, but try and keep your posts to factually correct info.

Martyn


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 04:15 PM.


© 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands