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Norman Dog 24 November 2010 07:19 AM

You can even see the evidence on the internet these days. :cry:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...otcom/PIC2.jpg

smokingkills 24 November 2010 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by Alan Jeffery (Post 9730270)
I find this one tends to slow them up a bit.
I was on my way to the office, not in any kind of hurry. I found myself wanting to take 5, so I parked up behind this van and opened the bonnet, so as to allow some air at the motor. I sat in the car, read the paper, did the crossword, walked around for a bit and took a couple of pictures. (Free Country!)
When I decided to leave, I asked the nice man in the van to move, as he was impeding my lawful progress onto the motorway, parked where he was. After a brief discussion on the subject, he duly cleared off.
It was pointed out to me that my life could be made difficult in the future, as he would most certainly have taken my reg number.
As the car belonged to my brother I wasn't fussed in the least!

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...ery/safety.jpg

Quality Alan :lol::lol::lol:

New_scooby_04 24 November 2010 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by Alan Jeffery (Post 9730270)
I find this one tends to slow them up a bit.
I was on my way to the office, not in any kind of hurry. I found myself wanting to take 5, so I parked up behind this van and opened the bonnet, so as to allow some air at the motor. I sat in the car, read the paper, did the crossword, walked around for a bit and took a couple of pictures. (Free Country!)
When I decided to leave, I asked the nice man in the van to move, as he was impeding my lawful progress onto the motorway, parked where he was. After a brief discussion on the subject, he duly cleared off.
It was pointed out to me that my life could be made difficult in the future, as he would most certainly have taken my reg number.
As the car belonged to my brother I wasn't fussed in the least!

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...ery/safety.jpg

:lol: :thumb:

Though I'm guessing that your brother won't be inviting you around for Xmas dinner anytime soon, Alan :lol1:

lazadude 24 November 2010 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by Norman Dog (Post 9730873)
You can even see the evidence on the internet these days. :cry:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...otcom/PIC2.jpg


Pretty sure Targeting the bonnet is a no no too.... due to laser refraction... They are told to aim at a flat surface such as the numberplate to prevent the laser spilling and increasing the speed read up. I would have argued that.

Saalro 24 November 2010 02:53 PM

Man if i do get somethingin the post, do you think it's a good idea to send what i want off one by one lol to waste time. Ask for photo eveidence, then when i receive it back, ask for calibration and so on?

If i can hold it off for a year i can save some insurance money lol.

Thanks

lazadude 24 November 2010 02:59 PM

I think it works along th elines of you ask for evidence (photo etc) once, then you have to decide what you are pleading (guilty or not -[court appearance]). dont think you can string it out much...

plus insurance companies ask about any "pending charges", well Admiral did for me anyway...

Saalro 24 November 2010 03:01 PM

Ah okay, i'll write i list of evidence i want, make it real ****ing long haha.

Thanks

New_scooby_04 24 November 2010 03:26 PM

It's worth pointing out that this isn't just all about people that have been caught "fair and square" (if such an expression can be applied to mobile speed cameras) trying to dodge the bullet. There has been very real concern over the accuracy of the readings obtained by these devices, and thus the validity of the convictions obtained using them!

The reliability of the evidence such devices provide is contingent upon proper calibration of the equipment and its appropriate use by a trained operator. If these conditions are not met, then the readings obtained from the device are unreliable and will not reflect the true speed of the vehicle. For example: it has been demonstrated that if mobile cameras are not used correctly, it is perfectly possible to get a speed reading off a stationary vehicle.

By asking for this evidence, you're not just trying to exploit loopholes having been caught doing something wrong; you're taking reasonable steps to ensure that you were doing something wrong in the first place.

Who wants to get punished for an offence they did not comit because of a mistake on someone else's part?

Ns04

Saalro 24 November 2010 03:40 PM

I'll be using your wording there if it comes to it ha.

Thanks

Glowplug 24 November 2010 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by Saalro (Post 9731550)
Ah okay, i'll write i list of evidence i want, make it real ****ing long haha.

Thanks
Sam

I just asked for the evidence they will be using against me and they sent everything in one envolope.;)

lazadude 24 November 2010 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by New_scooby_04 (Post 9731582)
The reliability of the evidence such devices provide is contingent upon proper calibration of the equipment and its appropriate use by a trained operator. If these conditions are not met, then the readings obtained from the device are unreliable and will not reflect the true speed of the vehicle. For example: it has been demonstrated that if mobile cameras are not used correctly, it is perfectly possible to get a speed reading off a stationary vehicle.

Such as the piece of US law that actually saw the guns the police over here use banned for that sort speed checking after a guy clocked his house doing 13mph....:wonder: Shame US judgements cant be used in court over here.

Its all to do with as said before about the laser not hitting a flat surface, square on.

Glowplug 24 November 2010 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by lazadude (Post 9731682)
Its all to do with as said before about the laser not hitting a flat surface, square on.

Which is impossible to achive.

They would have to lay in the road, aiming at your number plate. Not a bad idea.:norty:

ste_m 24 November 2010 05:00 PM

Just got a letter through 85mph on the A483 on the way to the WRC Saturday morning:cry:
Van hiding over the crest of a hill !!!
Whats the punishment now.

Steve

Saalro 24 November 2010 05:03 PM

Man damn cameras, i'm taking them all out lol.
Thanks

Glowplug 24 November 2010 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by ste_m (Post 9731728)
Just got a letter through 85mph on the A483 on the way to the WRC Saturday morning:cry:
Van hiding over the crest of a hill !!!
Whats the punishment now.

Steve

If thats a dual carriageway NSL then you might just, if your lucky get the 3pts and £60. However if it's a NSL, or less single carrage way, you may very well be looking at more.:wonder:

edit: Found this. Not good.


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