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Jimbob 24 October 2010 10:48 PM

Best way to do a gearbox change??
 
Whats the best way of dong a gearbox change on the scoob??

I`ve this little lot here to change over, and wondered if you can leave in the engine in, or is it an engine out jobbie??

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lomas the great 25 October 2010 05:47 PM

the engine can stay in but it involves swearing and bashed knuckles lol

scoobmj 25 October 2010 06:02 PM

i recommend trying to find a garage that will let you use there pit or 4 poster ramps for about 5 hours!

i am about to do mine for the 3rd time in 2 months :(

chrispy200+ 25 October 2010 06:24 PM

Engine can stay in, so much easier on a ramp, managed to get some time on a garages ramps, could see it being an arse to do on the ground

Jimbob 25 October 2010 08:01 PM

Cheers guys will see about getting a ramp, other than that its gonna be a biaaaaaaaaaaaaaatch!! lol.

Ciaran 25 October 2010 09:24 PM

A total bitch without a ramp.
Managed to do a clutch change in under 2 hours the last time i had the box off. That did involve 3 people that had done it alot of times before though

Jimbob 25 October 2010 10:25 PM


Originally Posted by Ciaran (Post 9676012)
A total bitch without a ramp.
Managed to do a clutch change in under 2 hours the last time i had the box off. That did involve 3 people that had done it alot of times before though

Looks like I need to get some mates or a ramp lol.

scoobmj 25 October 2010 10:47 PM

gonna need at least 2 people

chrispy200+ 25 October 2010 10:56 PM


Originally Posted by 99blue (Post 9676254)
gonna need at least 2 people

yeah deffo 2 people, even with a ramp will make life so much easier. Can be a bit of jiggering around getting the box back on lined up and on the spline

Jimbob 25 October 2010 11:07 PM

Cheers guys I can see this being fun fun fun!!

Can the engine ad box be taken out as one, esp if the bracing is coming out??

Fitted this box on my own,
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so if all else fails,should be a fun time learning new swear words.

Oh and my new box and diff WILL be going the very same colour lol.

Jimbob 25 October 2010 11:15 PM

Its a tradition of mine to paint gearboxes and axles Yellow.
Comes from my father, as if it leaks you can see it asap, and looks good lol.

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scoobmj 25 October 2010 11:17 PM

if you have not got any mates, then you can do it all by your self up until the box is ready to drop and then beg someone off the streets to help you pull the box.

that's what i done (billy no mates, me!), actually i do have mates but they are all busy when i mention gearbox :Suspiciou

Jimbob 25 October 2010 11:29 PM


Originally Posted by 99blue (Post 9676304)
if you have not got any mates, then you can do it all by your self up until the box is ready to drop and then beg someone off the streets to help you pull the box.

that's what i done (billy no mates, me!), actually i do have mates but they are all busy when i mention gearbox :Suspiciou

Always the same.

But I`m just a pain, and will do stuff cos I want it done.
Lucky for me I`m strong enough to cart the box around and have done shizzle like this before lol.

Will DEFFO try and get my mates to give a hand, but as soon as you mention manual labour, then they are always busy.

Talking Dog 25 October 2010 11:38 PM

you appeared to have covered it in mustard.

Jimbob 25 October 2010 11:48 PM


Originally Posted by Talking Dog (Post 9676333)
you appeared to have covered it in mustard.

Yellow Hammerite ftw!!

Do a Google image search of yellow hammerite, and you`ll see my pics number 1, and number 2, and number 5 lol.

Turbo Tez 26 October 2010 05:23 PM

I did mine on mi own, ont drive. Its not as bad as people make out but still a bit of a twart. Get the car as high as you can on axle stands then just bench press it up there, bit of a wiggle and its home. Hardest part i found was splitting the box from engine int first place.

scoobmj 27 October 2010 12:06 AM


Originally Posted by Turbo Tez (Post 9677388)
I did mine on mi own, ont drive. Its not as bad as people make out but still a bit of a twart. Get the car as high as you can on axle stands then just bench press it up there, bit of a wiggle and its home. Hardest part i found was splitting the box from engine int first place.


:lol:

bench press......ok, mr Schwarzenegger :D

T5OLF 27 October 2010 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by Turbo Tez (Post 9677388)
I did mine on mi own, ont drive. Its not as bad as people make out but still a bit of a twart. Get the car as high as you can on axle stands then just bench press it up there, bit of a wiggle and its home. Hardest part i found was splitting the box from engine int first place.

Same here, I've done 3 on the ramp and one in my drive, have to say it was much easier on the drive. I would not do anther on the ramps...

I drilled a lenth of old decking and strapped it to the bottom of the box where the mounts go and just jacked it in to place.

Jimbob 27 October 2010 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by Turbo Tez (Post 9677388)
I did mine on mi own, ont drive. Its not as bad as people make out but still a bit of a twart. Get the car as high as you can on axle stands then just bench press it up there, bit of a wiggle and its home. Hardest part i found was splitting the box from engine int first place.


Originally Posted by 99blue (Post 9678331)
:lol:

bench press......ok, mr Schwarzenegger :D

lol. Done similar with my Jeeps box lol.


Originally Posted by T5OLF (Post 9678516)
Same here, I've done 3 on the ramp and one in my drive, have to say it was much easier on the drive. I would not do anther on the ramps...

I drilled a lenth of old decking and strapped it to the bottom of the box where the mounts go and just jacked it in to place.

Will see what I can bodge together to give me a hand, have 4 axle stands and 2 very large lorry axle stands, so will get her in the air.

Ginge ! 27 October 2010 06:10 PM

you will need ATLEAST 2 people to do it, just for the lining up part as the rest can be done on your own, better to have 3 people though, 1 under car pushing, another pulling from the top and a third spinning the flywheel and your sorted

takes a few hours, gonna be taking mine out tomorrow, not that bad a job if im honest

Ginge ! 27 October 2010 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by Turbo Tez (Post 9677388)
I did mine on mi own, ont drive. Its not as bad as people make out but still a bit of a twart. Get the car as high as you can on axle stands then just bench press it up there, bit of a wiggle and its home. Hardest part i found was splitting the box from engine int first place.

oh dont forget to take out the pin that holds the fork to the clutch bearing or the box will NEVER seperate !!!

i was warned about this,,,, ignored it and then had to reconnect the box to block and remove the pin

Turbo Tez 27 October 2010 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by 99blue (Post 9678331)
:lol:

bench press......ok, mr Schwarzenegger :D

Its only about 70 kg, should imagine 6 speed is a different kettle of fish, extra 30kg and a lot bulkier

Jimbob 27 October 2010 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by Ginge ! (Post 9679318)
you will need ATLEAST 2 people to do it, just for the lining up part as the rest can be done on your own, better to have 3 people though, 1 under car pushing, another pulling from the top and a third spinning the flywheel and your sorted

takes a few hours, gonna be taking mine out tomorrow, not that bad a job if im honest

oh dont forget to take out the pin that holds the fork to the clutch bearing or the box will NEVER seperate !!!

i was warned about this,,,, ignored it and then had to reconnect the box to block and remove the pin

Yeah I have already done an engine change on the car, so this leaves the box and diff to change lol, then I`ve replaced the lot lol.


Originally Posted by Turbo Tez (Post 9679350)
Its only about 70 kg, should imagine 6 speed is a different kettle of fish, extra 30kg and a lot bulkier

Yeah should be fine to lift into place, its getting it on the engine, and more importantly doing the bolts up on the cradle.

Turbo Tez 27 October 2010 10:18 PM


Originally Posted by Jimbob WRX (Post 9679896)
Yeah I have already done an engine change on the car, so this leaves the box and diff to change lol, then I`ve replaced the lot lol.



Yeah should be fine to lift into place, its getting it on the engine, and more importantly doing the bolts up on the cradle.


once you get the dowels lined up beteen the engine and box its pretty much stuck there and bell housing will sit on the cross beam anyway. I just put a jack under the rear of the box then started refittin the bolts. Just be carefull not to damage the threads on the two studs at the engine lower.

Ciaran 29 October 2010 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by T5OLF (Post 9678516)
Same here, I've done 3 on the ramp and one in my drive, have to say it was much easier on the drive. I would not do anther on the ramps...

I drilled a lenth of old decking and strapped it to the bottom of the box where the mounts go and just jacked it in to place.

easier on the drive find that strange
I used a transmission stand with wheels when i have done it on the ramp. All you have to do is get the box at the correct height and it pushes straight on. Actually doing a box change next week as I managed to rip all the teeth of 5th gear yesterday


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