2 years in prison & anonimity stays
Unbelievable,
Venables admits charges, and gets 2 years, yet he remains anonymous, so much for being out on licence!!!! Mart |
Some people say that no one person is born evil and that the individual 'learns' or 'adopts' certain negative character traits...................
I say, some people are just born cun,ts and he is one of em':mad: |
Originally Posted by Camoscooby
(Post 9510396)
I say, some people are just born cun,ts and he is one of em':mad:
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2 year for a baby murderer who then given the opportunity downloads and distributes child porn - disgusting, how about LIFE meaning LIFE - he will not reform or get better!
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I really don't understand the justice system at all.
Seriously though - why isn't life your entire life in jail i.e. you never leave until your pretty much almost dead? |
If you don't pay your council tax in certain areas they print your name and address on the back of buses!
Kill a child and then distribute kiddie porn and your name remains a secret! Good old UK!! |
Originally Posted by urban
(Post 9510427)
I really don't understand the justice system at all.
Seriously though - why isn't life your entire life in jail i.e. you never leave until your pretty much almost dead? months to live. Then 11 months on you can read all about how well your doing with your freedom in the press lol :D:D Mart |
Originally Posted by mart360
(Post 9510457)
Almost, just say you have terminal prostrate cancer, and less then than 3
months to live. Then 11 months on you can read all about how well your doing with your freedom in the press lol :D:D Mart |
He was never going to be able to go straight really was he. A troubled childhood, murder, an adult court case, prison, changed identity.
I'm not saying he should be given sympathy, but it's just sad that once a child is damaged there seems little we can do in the way of recovery. Unfortunately his name needs to be kept a secret as he'd probably get murdered by a SN kangaroo court member/dailmail reader halfwit adult, as apparently this would make it right. |
Originally Posted by davyboy
(Post 9510534)
He was never going to be able to go straight really was he. A troubled childhood, murder, an adult court case, prison, changed identity.
I'm not saying he should be given sympathy, but it's just sad that once a child is damaged there seems little we can do in the way of recovery. Unfortunately his name needs to be kept a secret as he'd probably get murdered by a SN kangaroo court member/dailmail reader halfwit adult, as apparently this would make it right. He was found guilty of murdering James Bulger and also of downloading and distributing child porn. Do tell why he deserves to have his identity kept a secret when other murderers and child pornographers do not, what makes him so special - now that he is an adult? Why is he so special and why does he deserve anonymity??? |
Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
(Post 9510541)
He was found guilty of murdering James Bulger and also of downloading and distributing child porn. Do tell why he deserves to have his identity kept a secret when other murderers and child pornographers do not, what makes him so special - now that he is an adult?
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
(Post 9510541)
Oh how you just love to have a pop at SN members, some might call it trolling;) Must be easy to spot them from your vantage point, upon your high horse that is!
He was found guilty of murdering James Bulger and also of downloading and distributing child porn. Do tell why he deserves to have his identity kept a secret when other murderers and child pornographers do not, what makes him so special - now that he is an adult? Why is he so special and why does he deserve anonymity??? |
The abused go on to abuse, not all, but many do. In fact I wonder if there is a stat to show this? Most child abusers, were abused as children, you can't get away from this.
All we seem to do to the abused is offer sympathy....then they go on to abuse and we want them dead. Surely we can do something in the middle? We have to try and understand why a child behaves in such abhorrent manners some time. Learn from it and try and stop other children falling the same way. It's all too easy to disagree with this....I understand why people are angry. They get abused, they get removed from their home, they get put in care, they get passed around, finally someone might adopt them.....(they've probably been abused again during this time, the abused tend to attract abusers). How much can a child handle is such a short life? Is it any wonder we get kids who we brand as evil? Of sourse, you can continue to read and agree with what the dailymail says, I'll form my own opinions despite not being poular on here. |
Originally Posted by davyboy
(Post 9510534)
He was never going to be able to go straight really was he. A troubled childhood, murder, an adult court case, prison, changed identity.
I'm not saying he should be given sympathy, but it's just sad that once a child is damaged there seems little we can do in the way of recovery. Unfortunately his name needs to be kept a secret as he'd probably get murdered by a SN kangaroo court member/dailmail reader halfwit adult, as apparently this would make it right. Instead he chooses a different path and downloads sickening images of exposed/vulnerable children. Having a 'poor' childhood himself should be the biggest motivator for correcting his own life and not an excuse for ruining the lives of many more defenceless children by downloading that **** and therefore promoting the evil trade. Its just typical of the way the country is heading where the sympathy is awarded to the criminal and not the little tot whose life they chose to snuff out................ Are you a parent? I am not but I am certain your idealistic view would be altered if it was your child you saw on cctv being walked out of that train station that day or exposed on the internet:mad: |
Originally Posted by davyboy
(Post 9510579)
The abused go on to abuse, not all, but many do. In fact I wonder if there is a stat to show this? Most child abusers, were abused as children, you can't get away from this.
All we seem to do to the abused is offer sympathy....then they go on to abuse and we want them dead. Surely we can do something in the middle? We have to try and understand why a child behaves in such abhorrent manners some time. Learn from it and try and stop other children falling the same way. It's all too easy to disagree with this....I understand why people are angry. They get abused, they get removed from their home, they get put in care, they get passed around, finally someone might adopt them.....(they've probably been abused again during this time, the abused tend to attract abusers). How much can a child handle is such a short life? Is it any wonder we get kids who we brand as evil? Of sourse, you can continue to read and agree with what the dailymail says, I'll form my own opinions despite not being poular on here. Would you mind answering my question to you? i realise i am one of the knuckle-draggers who read and believe every word printed in the Daily Wail, but humour me for old times sake:) Also, given his background and upbringing do you think he had counseling and 'treatment' whilst inside and he was obviously deemed suitable for parole, for that he would need to know, understand and demonstrate right from wrong. He then chose to do what he did, even after the help he would have received. |
There you go Jon, new name, now get on with the rest of your life. That's the only help you're going to get from us :D
Of course, he thought about all they types of porn he could download, and he chose child porn. Many normal adults do this daily....don't they? I am a parent, and I tell you what, I've had my eyes opened to children in the 'system' and kids from loving homes don't kill 2 year olds. They might do naughty things, but they don't kill children. |
Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
(Post 9510613)
Would you mind answering my question to you? i realise i am one of the knuckle-draggers who read and believe every word printed in the Daily Wail, but humour me for old times sake
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Originally Posted by davyboy
(Post 9510620)
There you go Jon, new name, now get on with the rest of your life. That's the only help you're going to get from us :D
Of course, he thought about all they types of porn he could download, and he chose child porn. Many normal adults do this daily....don't they? I am a parent, and I tell you what, I've had my eyes opened to children in the 'system' and kids from loving homes don't kill 2 year olds. They might do naughty things, but they don't kill children. "Of course, he thought about all they types of porn he could download, and he chose child porn. Many normal adults do this daily....don't they?" Errrrrrr NO.:nono: I am sure during the course of his incarceration and the events before and after it, he has had more care and assistance than just 'here's your new name, off you go.':mad: IMO, every person, regardless of how fcuked up and warped they may be has a fundamental sense of right and wrong. Ultimately, its him that makes his decisions and not the excuse of a poor upbringing |
If you really believe normal adults download child porn then there is something amiss with your definition of normal and moral compass - it is wrong, simple as that!
Go mention to Clare that this is normal behavior and see what reaction you get, i think she may feel a little different! Unfortunately his name needs to be kept a secret as he'd probably get murdered by a SN kangaroo court member/dailmail reader halfwit adult, as apparently this would make it right It must be a real bind believing you are so much better that others, i just cannot understand why you would want to waste you time on here trying to educate the undereducated DM massive, you are a true missionary;) I think you will find most papers print a story and it is up to the readers to read between the lines. I have posted links to stories from most of the broadsheets as well as DM so what is the problem in that??? I will ask again, Can you explain to me why he deserves his anonymity, given the nature of his second offence, whilst on licence for Killing a toddler? Why is it he does when others that have committed the same or similar crimes do not have this??? You can go on all you want about his background, no one will argue that, as you say other kids go on to abuse yet they do not get the anonymity as an adult so why does he deserve to??? |
[quote]you are a true missionary[/quote[
Hey, I try, someone has to! Rather than me answer a question, you or anyone else answer this: Can you think of the kind of things that would happen if we took his anonymity away? It's a bit deep for a Friday to be honest I'd much be cycling and drinking beer! |
He deserves to be hung,nothing more,nothing less:mad:
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He's winding you up a treat tonight :lol1:
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Originally Posted by Clarebabes
(Post 9510740)
He's being a sad little troll tonight :lol1:
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Originally Posted by The Dogs B******s
(Post 9510694)
He deserves to be hung,nothing more,nothing less:mad:
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Originally Posted by davyboy
(Post 9510690)
Rather than me answer a question, you or anyone else answer this: Can you think of the kind of things that would happen if we took his anonymity away?
Yes I think we can all imagine what would happen if we took his anonymity away, the point is why should we care about that as he didn't care about what this society gave him. |
Originally Posted by f1_fan
(Post 9510774)
I think the point being made though is that he has wasted his second chance and should therefore no longer be granted the privileges that came with that second chance.
Yes I think we can all imagine what would happen if we took his anonymity away, the point is why should we care about that as he didn't care about what this society gave him. |
Originally Posted by The Dogs B******s
(Post 9510694)
He deserves to be hung,nothing more,nothing less:mad:
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I give up on this one as you all cleary want what would be a public execution.
Unfortunately the executioner wouldn't have the excuse of being a child......but would no doubt would be given hero status by some of you plebs :) |
Originally Posted by davyboy
(Post 9510833)
I give up on this one as you all cleary want what would be a public execution.
Unfortunately the executioner wouldn't have the excuse of being a child......but would no doubt would be given hero status by some of you plebs :) |
Originally Posted by davyboy
(Post 9510833)
I give up on this one as you all cleary want what would be a public execution.
Unfortunately the executioner wouldn't have the excuse of being a child......but would no doubt would be given hero status by some of you plebs :) |
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