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dave_garrett 09 August 2010 06:43 PM

They CE28 copies by Rota then? Look very nice.

786omar 09 August 2010 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by rickya (Post 9538358)
Nice wheels, Rota Fighters's?

Thanks to you & Musti for the R180 diff on the weekend mate :)

Yes Rota fighter, going to invest in some Advan RS's once the car is on the road then keep these for drag use

786omar 10 November 2010 07:10 PM

Its been a while since I lasted updated, but the project has now taken a major step foward the shell is undergone some major work, including a full wire tuck and engine bay re-spray, and the drivetrain has been fitted to the car - I ended up swapping my PPG setup with Clive's 6 speed setup from his track car (Mad HAmmer).

The long engine was completed last month...

The workbench with all the goodies...

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w...R/DSCF0008.jpg

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Although the block came back from Lateral spotlessly clean after the rear thrust conversion and rebore, we thought it would be best to give things a quick clean just in case any grit or dirt was picked up in transit...

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Once everything was clean to a standard assembly of the short was started, bearings, etc were lubricated using graphogen...

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After speaking to several Tuners, including Wiseco themselves we decided to gap the rings to the following :

Top Ring = 0.0050" and "2nd Ring 0.0055"

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w...R/DSCF0045.jpg

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The short Motor was then pretty much ready for the heads, so the Cosworth stud kit was installed alongside the headgaskets, the heads were tourqed down exactly to Cosworth's instructions...

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w...R/DSCF0052.jpg

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The end Result.....


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KAS35RSTI 10 November 2010 07:43 PM

Good work bro keep it up. Any news on my head?

786omar 10 November 2010 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by Aladdin (Post 9705425)
Good work bro keep it up. Any news on my head?

Off and ready :thumb:

Danny-WRX 10 November 2010 07:53 PM

:eek: Off with his head :lol1:

Danny-WRX 10 November 2010 07:54 PM

Top work by the way Keeo it up and more pics of the car.

P20SPD 11 November 2010 11:07 AM

You sure about those ring gaps, they look way too small!!

786omar 11 November 2010 11:28 AM

Sorry didn't mention, those figures are per inch of bore

P20SPD 11 November 2010 12:02 PM

That's better. Wondered if you meant that, but thought it better to ask, than let you run it with those ring gaps :eek:

KAS35RSTI 11 November 2010 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by 786omar (Post 9705434)
Off and ready :thumb:

When can i pick up?

Mus 11 November 2010 09:31 PM

looking good omar

FB Tuning 11 November 2010 10:44 PM

No vernier pulleys to dial the cams in with?

786omar 12 November 2010 09:04 AM

Would have loved some nice rcm vernier pulleys but i can't squeeze them in to the budget, I will most probably upgrade them when I have car mapped for race fuel, the oe pulleys will have to do for now..

banny sti 12 November 2010 09:16 AM

Omar how about the CDF vernier pulleys, they are pretty reasonable :)

Mad Hammer 12 November 2010 09:24 AM

Mine has run without verniers for the past two seasons, for your targets you don't need them.

greekpeterfromlondon 12 November 2010 09:34 AM

Hi mate loving the work so far but would it be better to replace the plastic cam pules for the early metal pulleys just to be on the safe side ?

Fai17 12 November 2010 10:27 AM

Ace work Omar!

MIAMI 12 November 2010 11:47 AM

this is the rubber dingy rapids brooo

well done for having the bulls balls for doing the work yourself, woould love to do this to mine.:thumb:

keep it up

FB Tuning 12 November 2010 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by Mad Hammer (Post 9708212)
Mine has run without verniers for the past two seasons, for your targets you don't need them.

It's more about minimising your losses though, and improving on the efficiency of the motor....

If you've gone to the expenses of buying cams, then it would be worth dialling them in too. If you can pick up a few hp and ftlb and put a bit more area under the dyno graphs, then I would see it as being a worthwhile exercise

Omar - you might want to measure where your centrelines are on stock pulleys, to see how far out they are. A before and after comparison on the dyno would be interesting to see :)

786omar 12 November 2010 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by banny sti (Post 9708199)
Omar how about the CDF vernier pulleys, they are pretty reasonable :)

Anyone else using these on here? They do look tempting whats the quality like compared to the RCM pullies?

4u2nv2 12 November 2010 06:53 PM

this is the future, nice work fella keep it up, any pics of car.

rickya 12 November 2010 06:56 PM

Good work mate :)

786omar 12 November 2010 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by FB Tuning (Post 9709138)
It's more about minimising your losses though, and improving on the efficiency of the motor....

If you've gone to the expenses of buying cams, then it would be worth dialling them in too. If you can pick up a few hp and ftlb and put a bit more area under the dyno graphs, then I would see it as being a worthwhile exercise

Omar - you might want to measure where your centrelines are on stock pulleys, to see how far out they are. A before and after comparison on the dyno would be interesting to see :)

The cams I picked up dirt cheap from a mate who decided to use cosworth cams in his build, there is a rumour though that they originate from the original white RA that paul at zen had as his demo car, I have yet to confirm this with him though, Ill post up the spec sheet of the cams that piper gave to me when I had them inspected and measured up...

A direct comparison would be a good idea though, but for now I'll stick with the stock pulleys, but I'll definately have it mapped on both sets of pulleys on v-power for a direct comparison before I start messing about with methanol and race fuel

786omar 12 November 2010 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by Fai17 (Post 9708326)
Ace work Omar!

Thanks, saw some videos of your car, thats one hell of a car Chy has built you :thumb:

786omar 12 November 2010 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by 4u2nv2 (Post 9709206)
this is the future, nice work fella keep it up, any pics of car.

Thanks, I'll upload them soon...

786omar 12 November 2010 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by rickya (Post 9709216)
Good work mate :)

:) hows that diff?

786omar 12 November 2010 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by Mad Hammer (Post 9708212)
Mine has run without verniers for the past two seasons, for your targets you don't need them.

I was thinking that the other day as I dont remember yours having the pulleys either, so I guess I shouldn't really have any issues apart from missing out on possibly a few horses

CDF Racing 12 November 2010 09:09 PM

Hi Omar,

Nice build so far mate,

Our pulleys are used on 9 of the USA rally team cars. Simon (jgm) also has them on his car and Rich (FB tuning) has seen these first hand, I am sure they can vouch for the qualtiy. We are also currently making some pulleys for Andy forrest drag car.

We only use good grade hard anodized alloy for all our cam pulleys.


You said about maybe fitting some after, if you do this you will need to remove the engine to dial the cams correctly either that or you will have to use them in stock postions - this will still be better as those bakerlight ones are very weak.

You are more than welcome to come and view some to inspect them.


The ones with stainless centres retail at £550 or our titanium true lock ones will be £900 as we havent released them yet.

Drop me a pm and i'll do you a good deal :thumb:


chris

Mus 13 November 2010 12:03 AM

very tempting you dont want to be thinking what if.... just get em omar youve come this far :)


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