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Ant 16 June 2010 04:08 PM

I'm with o2 and find it shocking they've not released prices. As the only way I'll be getting one is using their early upgrade offer.

Looking at orange price it does seem a little steep what price they're wanting for one

ChefDude 16 June 2010 04:34 PM

i have to admit i am appalled with the uk operators not managing our expectations; apple's site now says "shipping: from July 2".

If that means there'll be no release day iphones from o2 online, i'll be very disappointed.

JackClark 16 June 2010 05:49 PM

Anyone called O2, 202 on your phone should do the trick.

I can't get one right away, just too large a penalty, but I can understand everyone's urge to get their hands on the device first day, I don't quite understand camping out, but hey.

Neanderthal 16 June 2010 10:06 PM

I'm on holiday till the 25th so I'll sort mine out when I get back. Can't believe O2 haven't announced how much the actual phone will be per tarrif!! :mad:

Bravo2zero_sps 17 June 2010 09:20 AM

http://forum.o2.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=41927&start=2235

Have a read, apparently it may well be possible for simplicity users to carry on with their current deal and transfer to a microsim. So I guess it's just a case of buying an unlocked iphone4 from apple which i'd rather do anyway.

JackClark 17 June 2010 10:18 AM

Can you buy an unlocked phone from Apple, it would be a first in the UK.

Bravo2zero_sps 17 June 2010 10:29 AM

Yep, well unlocked as in sim free and therefore not locked to a network. That is what they are selling on their webite for £429, £499 or £599.

JackClark 17 June 2010 10:49 AM

That's awesome if it's correct. I have a feeling the phone will only activate with an Apple approved service provider, but I do hope I'm wrong. Instant cash to be made there shipping to the US.

Bravo2zero_sps 17 June 2010 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by JackClark (Post 9451908)
That's awesome if it's correct. I have a feeling the phone will only activate with an Apple approved service provider, but I do hope I'm wrong. Instant cash to be made there shipping to the US.

Only have to look on the Apple website!

http://store.apple.com/uk/browse/hom...ly/iphone#faqs

JackClark 17 June 2010 11:04 AM

It's this bit that worries me "iPhone 3GS works with SIM cards and iPhone 4 works with micro-SIM cards from compatible carriers"

Bravo2zero_sps 17 June 2010 11:10 AM

Yep you have to get a microsim. However it is allegedly possible to have your existing sim cloned onto a microsim by the independant mobile shops that do phone unlocking etc. I've not checked myself yet though so could be bullsh!t.

The other option is your current provider providing you with a micro sim for your current deal because you have changed handset. I can't see how they can refuse if you aren't tied into a contract and free to use what ever phone you want.

Bravo2zero_sps 17 June 2010 11:24 AM

Right well just called o2. They confirmed that if I was to be an iphone from Apple which is sim free then I can go into any o2 shop from the 24th of June and ask for my current sim to be swapped to a micro sim leaving me free to carry on with the simplicity deal I am on now. I double and treble checked with her and she said yes the micro sim would not be a new deal, it just replaces your current sim on exactly the same contract you are on now.

That is superb for me as it means I get to carry on for £20 a month for 600mins and unlimted data and 1200 texts and have the iphone with no tie in. £499 for the iphone4, sell current iphone for £240 so total outlay of only £260 and no 2 year contract.

Gear Head 17 June 2010 11:33 AM

Wow, what a bargain! :rolleyes:

Bravo2zero_sps 17 June 2010 11:44 AM

Oooh look another troll. Fcuk off, there's a good chap :thumb:

Markus 17 June 2010 12:00 PM

Looks like Canada will be getting unlocked phones now too. Prices will be nuts though, I'm reckoning on CAD$899 - 999 for the 32GB, which is a shedload. No mention from the carriers as to what their PAYG plans will be, obviously not as attractive as their contracts.

I wonder why no mention of unlocked phones was made at the keynote? I'd have thought it would be a very big deal. Perhaps because unlike the iPad it's not a) a global thing, and b) carriers do not have to unlock the phone and won't be selling unlocked ones. Shame, I was hoping Apple would mandate that iPhone 4 was to be unlocked.

Obviously the phones will be cheaper with a contract. I wonder if Rogers will be like O2 and unlock the phone at the end of the contract, somehow I doubt this. I will be investigating wether I'm eligible for an upgrade and if so, how much the new phone will cost and if I can take the features from my current contract to the new one. Also interested to see if they are sticking to the three year contract too.


I will also speak to the retentions department and ask what deal they will give me to prevent me from leaving and going with a competitor. As other carriers here now have the iPhone they are more likely to want to keep my custom.

As for microsim's, I believe you can chop your existing sim down to a micro one. the contact positions for full vs micro are the same. The chip on a sim is very small, most of the sim is just plastic. I'm pretty sure carriers will provide you with a micro-sim if you are upgrading, possibly for free, or more likely a minimal fee.

JackClark 17 June 2010 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by ************** (Post 9451973)
That is superb for me as it means I get to carry on for £20 a month for 600mins and unlimted data and 1200 texts and have the iphone with no tie in. £499 for the iphone4, sell current iphone for £240 so total outlay of only £260 and no 2 year contract.

Sounds good to me too, my current contract has 9 months to go. Might have to test my wallet flexing skills.

Markus 17 June 2010 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by ChefDude (Post 9450841)
i have to admit i am appalled with the uk operators not managing our expectations; apple's site now says "shipping: from July 2".

If that means there'll be no release day iphones from o2 online, i'll be very disappointed.

It's be stated that there were 600,000 pre-orders of iPhone 4. They simply did not expect demand to be that great. They probably based this on the fact the 3GS didn't pre-order like wildfire. That might be due to it not being that different to the 3G, and thus people held off for the iPhone 4.

O2 stores would, I suspect, have some stock for walk-ins, same as Apple stores, but it will be limited and you'll have to do your supergeek impression and camp outside to be first in line to get one.

DJ_Jon 17 June 2010 12:17 PM

Seems mental that o2 still haven't given any indication on pricing for the handsets, I want to upgrade, but I'm holding off till I know the prices :rolleyes:

SwissTony 17 June 2010 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by DJ_Jon (Post 9452078)
Seems mental that o2 still haven't given any indication on pricing for the handsets, I want to upgrade, but I'm holding off till I know the prices :rolleyes:

Yes me too. Frankly I am ****ed off with the way they and Vodafone have not given anything away yet. because believe you me, if 02 come out with some crap prices a day before the launch, then I am going to jump ship. No loyalty from them in the past so they get the same treatment back.

Anyway with the shipping dates on buy outright iphones 4 now at 12-14th July, I am guessing that 02 will have **** all stock anyway :rolleyes:

Snazy 17 June 2010 12:29 PM

Bravo, certainly sounds like a good deal in the grand scheme of things.

Some very strange goings on out there with the networks being shady about their pricing etc, im sure there is a hidden adgenda there somewhere, but only time is gonna tell.
Almost get the impression that some of the networks WANT customers to jump ship, and then just cream it with the number of people with 6 months still left on their contracts to run. 6-12 months of contract monies coming in, but no need for a service going out.

you getting twitchy and tempted now Jack? lol, I knew you would buckle eventually :p

Ant 17 June 2010 12:42 PM

I'm going first thing Thursday morning. What time does o2 open 9am?

JackClark 17 June 2010 12:49 PM

I am Snazy, I'm stuck between an iPad - the urge gets stronger every time I use one - the new iPhone although my 3GS is till the best device on the market right now and a new Paraglider. I'm off giving my old wing another chance next week, my current iPhone will be great, but extra battery life is always good and I'll be wishing I had an iPad as my Macbook is too bulky to take.

Where will my fun money go, I'm away from home for two weeks, something will be ordered on my return.

Snazy 17 June 2010 01:53 PM

http://shop.o2.co.uk/new-iphone/tariffs.html

Ta daaaaa

I hear ya Jack. Personally I would be more inclined to go with the Pad, just because it has different uses. Not convinced that there is enough change between the 3 and 4 to warrant any cost, if those funds could go towards a different device all together.

SwissTony 17 June 2010 01:56 PM

mmmmm £89 for what I want. Lets see what vodafone offer before I make my choice

ChefDude 17 June 2010 01:58 PM

O2 handset prices and Tariffs up
http://shop.o2.co.uk/new-iphone/tariffs.html

Snazy 17 June 2010 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by SwissTony (Post 9452224)
mmmmm £89 for what I want. Lets see what vodafone offer before I make my choice

Not that I have looked too closely, but is there actually a difference between the carriers this time? Has the deadlock gone now?

SwissTony 17 June 2010 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by ChefDude (Post 9452227)
O2 handset prices and Tariffs up
http://shop.o2.co.uk/new-iphone/tariffs.html

beaten not only by 5 minutes but also by a blackberry user !!!

The shame :D

ChefDude 17 June 2010 02:08 PM

rats!

:D

nothing wrong with blackberries - I have one in my drawer at work :D

SwissTony 17 June 2010 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by Snazy (Post 9452238)
Not that I have looked too closely, but is there actually a difference between the carriers this time? Has the deadlock gone now?

£30 cheaper if the vodafone leaked prices are anything to go by. Agree not a major amount but still its £30 !!

SwissTony 17 June 2010 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by ChefDude (Post 9452240)
rats!

:D

nothing wrong with blackberries - I have one in my drawer at work :D

I have some strawberries in the fridge :thumb:


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