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thereisnospoon 10 April 2010 04:29 PM

coolant change now pressure???
 
Just changed the coolant and header tank cap, the car is running fine and temp gauge normal, just the rad hoses are hard with pressure and wasnt before the change, can anyone help. thanks guys

incarsolutions 10 April 2010 04:52 PM

airlock.

thereisnospoon 10 April 2010 05:01 PM

How do i sort that out?

Rich D 10 April 2010 05:02 PM

bleed the system

thereisnospoon 10 April 2010 05:08 PM

is this easy to do?

Splitpin 10 April 2010 06:55 PM

Right, count to ten everyone.

Nospoon, hard rad pipes is not, in itself, a definative iindication of an airlock. It can also be an indication that there isn't an airlock and that everything's good.

The system's supposed to be pressurised when hot, that's why header tank caps are marked with a release pressure. If you weren't getting hard pipes before when the engine was hot, chances are your system was under-filled before you did your coolant change. Before going any further answer these questions and it'll be easier for us help you work out what, if anything, is up:

1. What MY is your car?
2. Your new header tank cap - what crack pressure's written on it, and is it the same as the one you took off?
3. When you had the engine running, did/do you get hot air out of the air vents with the fan on and the dial turned all the way to hot?
4. Can you feel coolant in the upper and lower rad hoses - i.e. are they both hot?
5. Wait til the engine's cooled and open the expansion tank. Is it still full, empty, or somewhere between the two?

Answer us those and then we'll see where we are.

dj219957 11 April 2010 12:31 AM

splitpin, couldnt have put it better myself.

another misconception, hot top hose, colder bottom hose = bad. WRONG!
that means rad is working:)

thereisnospoon 11 April 2010 11:07 AM

Ah never mind then, heater works fine, both hose's are hot and water level is fine. The cap I took off was one with a pressure button, and the one I put on hasn't. Thanks guys

Butty 11 April 2010 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by dj219957 (Post 9340007)
splitpin, couldnt have put it better myself.

another misconception, hot top hose, colder bottom hose = bad. WRONG!
that means rad is working:)

Under what circumstances is that wrong :wonder:

dj219957 11 April 2010 12:37 PM

if the bottom hose was as hot as the top then the rad wouldnt be doing its job would it!

Butty 11 April 2010 01:01 PM

So when the car is parked up and idling, the hoses are different temps?

dj219957 11 April 2010 04:57 PM

the water is pumped from top to bottom as i understand, so there should always be a temp difference, large or small depending on if parked or moving.

If the termostat is closed the top hose will be hotter as well.

Butty 11 April 2010 06:20 PM

If you can feel a temp difference by hand of the top and bottom hoses then either its just warming up and the thermostat hasn't opened - or if warmed up and driven for 30 mins or more then there is an air lock in the rad which IS BAD.
In the later case, the coolant sensor will kick the fans in, but they will keep blowing as the air lock prevents coolant flow through the rad, so the coolant running past the sensor doesn't get cooler. The rad may be either cold or slightly warm to touch.

It is not a misconception, but a good sign of a problem that needs sorting.

thereisnospoon 11 April 2010 07:04 PM

I've also noticed the fan kicking in when i stop which it never did before? also the water in he overflow bottle isnt pink like my coolant?


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