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jef 29 January 2010 04:43 PM

silkolene pro-r 10w 50
 
just put this into my classic which is modded to just over 300bhp-ish

is it ok?

joz8968 29 January 2010 04:53 PM

10W-50 is a perfect weight for the Classic - the 10W is especially suitable if it's a STi with forged pistons. And Silk' Pro R or S is one of the best brands too.

10W-40 is fine, but the higher 50 'hot' weight protects more when engine is sustained to longer running high temps e.g. trackdays.

Also, if you have a WRX (with non-forged pistons) - or a recent new (therefore tight) engine - then I think you can get away with a thinner 'cold' 5W weight too (gets around the engine quicker on start up, when most engine wear occurs).

pooeater 29 January 2010 04:58 PM

pro R is 15w50 R = race pro s is 10w50

joz8968 29 January 2010 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by pooeater (Post 9189436)
pro R is 15w50 R = race pro s is 10w50

Yeah, I was just about to mention that too.

OP, I assume you mean Pro S (at 10W-50)?

jef 29 January 2010 06:52 PM

apologies its pro-s

it is an sti model , however its the early version1 with non forged pistons, so basically a wrx engine i think.

joz8968 29 January 2010 06:58 PM

You have choices then. I'd say either 5W or 10W for the 'cold', and either 40 or 50 for the 'hot'. So you're fine on your 10W-50.

FTR, when I have my next change, Pro S 10W-50 is going in too! :) (changing from Millers CFS 10W-40). My WRX v.1 engine has recently been rebuilt with STi v.3/4 pistons though, and Pro S was the recommended oil from Oilman...

jef 29 January 2010 07:08 PM

thanks im trying to keep min going as long as possible

but when inevitable happens ill be going forged - hoping to save up for the 2.1 option :norty:

joz8968 29 January 2010 07:26 PM

A forged 2.1 on a MD321T (or T+) - so long as you have STi v.3-6 heads on of course - would be awesome I reckon! ;)

Don't forget to concurrently save an extra £2+k for a PPG or 6-sp, too though! :D

Rocko_01 29 January 2010 07:29 PM

15 - 50 Pro R in mine .. RCM use it as standard ...

perfect for modded imprezas

oilman 29 January 2010 08:09 PM

10w-50 is perfect for a classic

andymcf05 29 January 2010 08:49 PM

guy
i'm just about to order from you for my 2005 impreza STI type uk. what do you recommend for it?

its done 20k miles and for general to fast road use? either silkolene or millers preferebly.

cheers
andy

oilman 29 January 2010 09:09 PM

5w-40 Pro S or CFS

Cheers

mike h 29 January 2010 09:24 PM

Just put Pro s 10W-50 in the classic.
Didn't realise it was red, thought it was hydraulic oil so double checked the label!:lol1:

oilman 29 January 2010 09:32 PM


Originally Posted by mike h (Post 9190224)
Just put Pro s 10W-50 in the classic.
Didn't realise it was red, thought it was hydraulic oil so double checked the label!:lol1:

Yep, reddy purple

Cheers

jef 29 January 2010 09:35 PM

i gave it to my garage to fit as it was in getting other work done and they said they put it all in and was still only half way between empty and full

how much do classic imprezas hold?

joz8968 29 January 2010 09:36 PM

The stuff recommended for my old Integrale Evo was Selenia stuff.

From memory, it was dark green like Fairy Liquid and really sticky and thin!!! lol

joz8968 29 January 2010 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by jef (Post 9190252)
i gave it to my garage to fit as it was in getting other work done and they said they put it all in and was still only half way between empty and full

how much do classic imprezas hold?

4.5l inc oil filter: that's when the oil's upto the topmost FULL HOLE - when cold! (not the semi-circle notch in the side, further up!)

Midway is fine. If anything it can help prevent the boost control solenoid and/or wastegate getting clogged up with oil (because of excessive fumes getting built up over time). Allegedly. ;)

jef 29 January 2010 09:41 PM

cheers mate

joz8968 29 January 2010 09:46 PM

It's a difference of 1 litre between the bottom and top FULL HOLES. ;)

joz8968 29 January 2010 10:42 PM

Jef, see this thread for a visual lol:-

https://www.scoobynet.com/general-te...ed-my-oil.html

jef 29 January 2010 11:16 PM

cheers mate just to further confuse things

whats acceptable amount of oil for my scoob to use?

its an old engine 1994, 65k miles

not reall;y noticed it using any tbh, but just wandering if the y do use abit?

joz8968 29 January 2010 11:24 PM

I litre per 1000 miles (or 1 month - depending on frequency of use) is sort of maximum of what's 'acceptable' on older performance cars (or ones with forged pistons).

But the Impreza WRXs are not normally known for excessive oil cons. My MY93 WRX - when it had the original WRX non-forged pistons in at the c.95k mile mark - didn't use any! Even with the STi 3/4 pistons in it's still all but negligible (but it is effectively a new engine that's about a year old)

jef 29 January 2010 11:31 PM

yeah mine is effectivley an early wrx engine and ive had it 5 months odd, didnt seem to have used any

Motion-Mx 29 January 2010 11:45 PM

i'm still confused about wether i should run 5 or 10 weight oil?

I have an 03 sti mapped to 330 ish,if the thinner oil is better then why doesnt every engine run 0/50 oil?

joz8968 29 January 2010 11:47 PM


Originally Posted by jef (Post 9190577)
yeah mine is effectivley an early wrx engine and ive had it 5 months odd, didnt seem to have used any

Good! :)

joz8968 29 January 2010 11:50 PM


Originally Posted by Motion-Mx (Post 9190601)
i'm still confused about wether i should run 5 or 10 weight oil?

I have an 03 sti mapped to 330 ish,if the thinner oil is better then why doesnt every engine run 0/50 oil?

A 0W 'cold' weight is too thin for the EJ flat-4.

I believe your car's recommended oil is a 5W-40 (or 5W-30). Go with the 5W-40 for better hot running protection.

Motion-Mx 29 January 2010 11:57 PM

ok thanks,

so why doesnt everybody use 5 weight? i see others running 10 and even 15 weight?

joz8968 30 January 2010 12:18 AM

10W and 15W are thicker at start up and till around, I think, 40deg C., when compared to a 5W

The Classics run this weight as the engine is worn more - simply due to its older age/mileage. This means tolerence gaps have got greater as components have worn over time/milage. So it takes a thicker oil on start up/low temp to create the same pressures (a greater a gap/volume to displace) as the thinner 5W does in a newer, tighter engine...

Motion-Mx 30 January 2010 12:51 AM

ok,makes sense...

so the first number ie 5w or 10w is kind of irrelevant above 40 c ?
so i want 5w because my engine is slightly newer and tighter,and 40 to give a bit better protection when hott.

sweet, thanks

joz8968 30 January 2010 01:07 AM

You got it!

And yes, I think the 'cold' W (for Winter) number is the rating up to 40degC(?)... from which point, as you elude to, the second 30-60 number 'takes over' for the oil rating (once again, the higher the number, the more viscous oil is when hot).

Oilman will be on here soon to put us scallywags right.


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