New 5 series
Looks nice, more sleek than then E60. The 530d will do 0-60 in 6.3s, no details on a 535d as yet. I presume they'll make one, or have they ditched it?
New M5 rumoured to have a twin turbo V8, 560 BHP and a twin clutch gearbox |
Looks very smart and business like, but a bit plain compared to the outgoing model!
The german brands need to calm down a bit on the power-race tho! 560bhp M5 will be crazy, but the current 500bhp model is already that! |
Originally Posted by Petem95
(Post 9164141)
Looks very smart and business like, but a bit plain compared to the outgoing model!
The german brands need to calm down a bit on the power-race tho! 560bhp M5 will be crazy, but the current 500bhp model is already that! reason been that the M5 is a very heavy car so needs the extra bhp. the new F10 M5 is class though , interior is very well design , not sure on the V8 twin turbo , as the current V10 is a awesome engine !! |
Pete, it looks a little plain, but then so does a vanilla 520d. When its in a nice colour like black, with larger wheels, and at some point a M Tech body styling kit I think it will look aggressive but still subtle.
The current V10 engine is nice but lacks a little low end torque, hopefully the twin turbo will sort that out. Blurb on the net says it will have aluminium doors/bonnet, thinner glass and a carbon fibre roof. If this means weight has actually dropped, that's great news. Still can't figure out why there is no 535d showing on the bmw website |
Might be rebadged the 540d (like the 740d)? Uses a single twin scroll turbo but otherwise very similar.
I like it. The new E92 (3 coupe) has been previewed as well - that looks worse and has HUGE wing mirrors - a bit like a Landcruiser! |
Matee, are you saying the 535d/540d has been announced, because I can't seem to find it anywhere?
The new 530d is quoted as 0-60 in 6.3s which could make the 535d perhaps sub 6secs, once chipped maybe 5.5secs? Now that would make a fantastic 'sensible' car. |
Ding - nope, I'm just guessing. But most "in the know" are pretty sure the 40d engine will make it into the 5 then probably the 3 series.
Only thing is, it's not actually much more powerful and the torque is only a wee bit higher. A remao gets much better results. Think the main reason for it is lower emissions and mpg. Not sure about the 5 series but a lots of 35d engined 3 series cars (all shapes) have been times at around 5.5s to 60 despite BMWs official times of 5.9 (Coupe), 6 (saloon) and 6.1 (Touring). The 35i times are even more impressive to 60 - just about 5 seconds dead for some tests. Makes a change from manufacturers making OTT claims - the E36 M3, B7 RS4 and Audi 3.0TDi spring to mind. All have BS "official" power and performance figures. |
Thanks.
Why do you say that the 35d/40d is only marginally more powerful than the 30d? Its 245 vs 285 BHP, 40 BHP is quite a difference. Or have I misunderstood you? |
Ding - misunderstood! The 40d unit is only marginally more powerful (just over 300bhp) than the 35d unit and based on the same block. Most BMW fans would assume it's an 8 pot diesel from the 40i engines of the past.
Latest 30d unit isn't far off the 35d unit and you can have a manual so that appeals more to some. I just like the lack of any "gap" in power from the twin turbos myself. The auto box works very well too. A diesel auto estate that's fun - doesn't seem right but it is! New 5er looks good. I like it a lot. |
Originally Posted by Matteeboy
(Post 9165090)
Ding - misunderstood! The 40d unit is only marginally more powerful (just over 300bhp) than the 35d unit and based on the same block. Most BMW fans would assume it's an 8 pot diesel from the 40i engines of the past.
Latest 30d unit isn't far off the 35d unit and you can have a manual so that appeals more to some. I just like the lack of any "gap" in power from the twin turbos myself. The auto box works very well too. A diesel auto estate that's fun - doesn't seem right but it is! New 5er looks good. I like it a lot. I have the current 5 series and like it alot. The new one looks better imho, I'd quite like to change my car towards the end of the year or early 2011. However, I never buy brand new cars and as they haven't announced the 540d touring or M5 saloon yet, I won't be able to buy a year old one for some time yet. I can imagine a white M5 with the carbon fibre roof will look amazing:luvlove: |
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