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David Lock 17 December 2009 10:14 AM

Worried about snow tonight.........
 
My boy is due to fly into Gatwick at 10.30 tonight, Ryanair from Dublin.

Quite heavy snow is forecast and in my flying days (as a passenger!) Gatwick used to close at the merest whisper of more than 2 flakes.

So what's the score these days? And is a decision made to leave Dublin say and perhaps change landing to another site after plane is airborne. I can't think Mr Ryan is over generous about helping passengers if they land in the wrong place.

So up-to-date experience/comments welcome.

Thanks, David

subaruturbo_18 17 December 2009 10:19 AM

I'd be worried about snow aswell if i was flying ryanair to gatwick, as they'll prob take you to glasgow :D

David Lock 17 December 2009 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by subaruturbo_18 (Post 9104629)
I'd be worried about snow aswell if i was flying ryanair to gatwick, as they'll prob take you to glasgow :D

Thank you so much for your most helpful contribution :Whatever_

Trout 17 December 2009 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by David Lock (Post 9104623)
Quite heavy snow is forecast and in my flying days (as a passenger!) Gatwick used to close at the merest whisper of more than 2 flakes.

But in your days they still hadn't invented radar, or planes for that matter ;)

David Lock 17 December 2009 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by Trout (Post 9104665)
But in your days they still hadn't invented radar, or planes for that matter ;)

And on cold nights the bloody propeller would ice up :wonder:

shaunywrx 17 December 2009 11:04 AM

I would'nt worry to much, they're probably just over reacting at the met office, they never get it right.

Leslie 17 December 2009 11:09 AM

Depends on how thick the snowstorms are, you need to at least be able to see the runway lights from 200 feet on the approach, and how good the airport's equipment is at keeping the runways and taxiways clear. Autoland might give them a bit more leeway depending on Company rules.

Les

pikeywrx 17 December 2009 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by David Lock (Post 9104672)
And on cold nights the bloody propeller would ice up :wonder:

:lol:

If its really bad wont they just cancel flight mate? I cant add anything more constructive as i dont get on planes scared to death off them.

BOB.T 17 December 2009 11:19 AM

I know for a fact Ryanair can land planes on snow in Sweden, can they do it here, I very much doubt it, far too risky! :rolleyes:

Leslie 17 December 2009 12:55 PM

No problem landing on packed snow. We used to have to do that in Canada when doing our training. Slushy snow is a different story, too slippery and difficult to maintain direction in too.

Les

BOB.T 17 December 2009 01:55 PM

I'm no pilot, but! Can you not still steer with the flappy bits and brake with reverse thrust? Obviously I appreciate the lack of mechanical grip...

Puff The Magic Wagon! 17 December 2009 02:58 PM

David

My mum flew Ryanair and there was snow at the destination airport and she ended up in a completely different country to her destination at 21:00 with the whole airport shutting down and the Ryanair staff left for the night! This included a 90 year old lady in a wheelchair - just abandoned.

Buses laid on? Hotels alerted? Clients told where to go for hotels? Were they heck :mad:

My mum had been flying into Londonderry and ended up in Dublin. She was 79 at the time. She didn't have any euro on her to get a cup of coffee or anything, the shops were shut anyway and no mobile phone (& no change for a payphone). Eventually got hold of my brother in law and he drove from the most northerly point of Ireland to Dublin to collect her in deep snow and blizzard conditions - respect to him.

I absolutely detest Michael Leary or whatever he is called. I know the feeling is mutual as he has gone on record as saying he doesn't give a fig about the customers, it's all profit to him. I really object to giving him money and often go out of my way to avoid his services but sometimes his deals are just too good and I resign myself to be being treated like a **nt for a few hours :rolleyes:

Coffin Dodger 17 December 2009 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by David Lock (Post 9104652)
Thank you so much for your most helpful contribution :Whatever_

Sounds like he wasn't that far from the truth really ;)

Anyway I'm sure it'll be fine, stop worrying :)

Markus 17 December 2009 04:02 PM

I know a friend flew from Dublin to Gatwick and due to very heavy rain they were diverted to Heathrow, so it's possible the same may happen if there is snow, depends of course on the track of the snowstorm really.

I'd say to make sure before he flies he has cash on him an if he has a mobile, make sure it's charged, or he's got change for a payphone.

David Lock 17 December 2009 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by Puff The Magic Wagon! (Post 9105064)
David

My mum flew Ryanair and there was snow at the destination airport and she ended up in a completely different country to her destination at 21:00 with the whole airport shutting down and the Ryanair staff left for the night! This included a 90 year old lady in a wheelchair - just abandoned.

Buses laid on? Hotels alerted? Clients told where to go for hotels? Were they heck :mad:

My mum had been flying into Londonderry and ended up in Dublin. She was 79 at the time. She didn't have any euro on her to get a cup of coffee or anything, the shops were shut anyway and no mobile phone (& no change for a payphone). Eventually got hold of my brother in law and he drove from the most northerly point of Ireland to Dublin to collect her in deep snow and blizzard conditions - respect to him.

I absolutely detest Michael Leary or whatever he is called. I know the feeling is mutual as he has gone on record as saying he doesn't give a fig about the customers, it's all profit to him. I really object to giving him money and often go out of my way to avoid his services but sometimes his deals are just too good and I resign myself to be being treated like a **nt for a few hours :rolleyes:


Thanks Puff, I rather wish I hadn't read that :( I didn't realise that they could be so uncaring, especially where older folk are involved. An irony here is that I suggested that James, my boy. should try the ferry when he travelled out as you can get a good deal with British Rail from any station. Takes a while but kids don't mind. Only to get to Holyhead and find that high winds had meant cancelled crossings and he had to wait all night in a cold terminal building.

And I know he is down to his last few Euros :cry:

I'll guess we will just have to wait and see. I did phone him and told him to check before he left for Dublin airport but I expect Ryanair will charge for the call :Suspiciou

David

MattW 17 December 2009 04:25 PM

Just had 5 mins of snow and it has settled, not looking forward to the rest of it.

dpb 17 December 2009 06:03 PM

likewise - im officially over regarding snow as a fun possiblity . well im 45 next year :)

subaruturbo_18 17 December 2009 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by David Lock (Post 9104652)
Thank you so much for your most helpful contribution :Whatever_

As a fellow West Sussexian i apologize. I am sure the weather wont be that bad tonight, And as previously said i'm sure the weather wont be bad enough for the plain to be in a dangerous situation. At worst it would be delayed and resceduled for a later time.

:D:thumb:

dpb 17 December 2009 06:07 PM

you can text people cash now apparently

FlightMan 17 December 2009 06:23 PM

Probably divert to Stansted if LGW is closed. Should be an "interesting" drive round the M25 for you. ;)

SunnySideUp 17 December 2009 07:04 PM

Gatwick looks like it is in the flightpath of the snow .... smack in the middle of the expected disruptive area.

I sincerely hope he doesn't end up far afield ... maybe Heathrow will be clearer? It looks very localised in the SE corner during the early part of the night, then spreading further west.

Puff The Magic Wagon! 17 December 2009 09:31 PM


Originally Posted by dpb (Post 9105320)
likewise - im officially over regarding snow as a fun possiblity . well im 45 next year :)

Speak for youself m8!!!

Car park had a light dusting and I couldn't resist giving it a few beans as I left for home :D

Also got new front tyres today and I spit on the snow drift that will stop ME getting anywhere ;)

Will 17 December 2009 09:36 PM

I hate it when it snows here in wales as it's very hard to spot the sheep :D

dpb 17 December 2009 09:58 PM

Good for you Puff

Mine needs new fronts as well , however im not likely to get the back end out :)

mondeo diesel estate

Simon C 17 December 2009 09:58 PM

As long as you dont have sheep end up like this your fine

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Trout 17 December 2009 10:39 PM

Just been out in the GT3 on freshly fallen snow!! Interesting feedback from the front end - but given the tread depth and width of the tyres pretty good grip and traction.

Moley 17 December 2009 10:42 PM

Gatwick isn't too bad at the moment

David Lock 18 December 2009 12:14 AM

James got back safely. Snow seemed to be later than forecast. Now I can relax :thumb:

David

Will 18 December 2009 12:19 AM


Originally Posted by David Lock (Post 9106033)
James got back safely. Snow seemed to be later than forecast. Now I can relax :thumb:

David

Nice one :thumb:

LG John 18 December 2009 12:23 AM

I left Gatwick for Edinburgh at about 9:40 and it was beginning to show very slight signs of snowing. It would have needed to go mental to be a problem 50 minutes or so later.


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