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timmy2take 07 September 2009 07:49 PM

Can anyone confirm what the minimum legal size front plate you can have on a 97Import
 
As title, been having a little look on the site, but seem to be lots of different sizes.

Many thanks

m@t STImulation 07 September 2009 07:54 PM

i just lost it, in the windscreen nw

gc8-r 07 September 2009 08:12 PM

i use a motorbike sized plate..
just make sure the lettering is the right size..
as long as that is ok,you should have no bother...

chris

timmy2take 07 September 2009 08:16 PM

Cheers mate, I've actually just stuck a facelift bumper on her so want one of those small long ones if anyone can help with the size for a v5/v6 front bumper plate?

m@t STImulation 07 September 2009 08:31 PM

no idea ive seen what your after a letterbox size, dont think they are legal tho

gc8-r 07 September 2009 08:32 PM

no mate this will temp you..... :)
http://i682.photobucket.com/albums/v...r/DSCN1561.jpg

looks the nuts .like jap cars should..
as matt says those plates are illegal...
just not worth the risk

stevie1982 07 September 2009 08:34 PM

I have a 3/4 size plate on my car and have run one on two of my last imprezas and touch wood I have not had any issues with the police etc but that is not to say I won't but I don't drive to draw any attention to myslef. Although they are ilegal and fancyplate.com do state thy they are for show use only, so it's up to you

gtirx2 08 September 2009 05:18 PM

Not sure if this is still in date and valid but read section 14a...

The Road Vehicles (Display of Registration Marks) (Amendment) Regulations 2002

scooby546 08 September 2009 05:46 PM

gc8-r, thats what I'll do with mine eventually - its square at the moment, just in the middle... once I get a FMIC I'll move it to the left tho - reckon it looks spot on :thumb:

TonyBurns 08 September 2009 05:59 PM

Subaru's can fit a standard size numberplate on both the front and rear, using anything else is illegal and you can be done for it, have a nice loooooooooong bit of reading on numberplates somewhere (courtesy of hm gov).
So all those with bike plates, be warned, you can get pulled and done for incorrectly displaying your number plate.

Tony:)

gc8-r 08 September 2009 06:17 PM

that is not including imports.!!
as i work in a company that supplys plates..
there is no law on plate size its just txt size and spacing...
and mine is the same size as what is supplyed by mitsi for the evo(legal in this country)!!
jdm cars do not come with oblong plates...
mine supplyed by dvla were about 2 inch longer each side
and the new law states that you must now have a bsau stamp and address and post code on it from the people that supplyed it...
when you buy them now you have to supply v5 and driving licence,as you have to put these details on dvla data base,before you can print them..
so motorbike size ones are legal..

timmy2take 08 September 2009 06:22 PM

Wish I'd known about the size of the plate didn't matter earlier and it was just the spacing. Went and ordered one from Craigs plates earlier. Damn:mad:

TonyBurns 08 September 2009 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by gc8-r (Post 8929444)
that is not including imports.!!
as i work in a company that supplys plates..
there is no law on plate size its just txt size and spacing...
and mine is the same size as what is supplyed by mitsi for the evo(legal in this country)!!
jdm cars do not come with oblong plates...
mine supplyed by dvla were about 2 inch longer each side
and the new law states that you must now have a bsau stamp and address and post code on it from the people that supplyed it...
when you buy them now you have to supply v5 and driving licence,as you have to put these details on dvla data base,before you can print them..
so motorbike size ones are legal..

Incorrect that does include imports if a standard plate can be fitted, ie subaru's, on cars like the nissan Pulsar or Mitsubishi Evo's where they dont have the standard size fittings then a square numberplate can be fitted, lovely bit on a government website about it ;)
Posted that before, even shows you the size numberplates and types that can be fitted.

Tony:)

Shaun 08 September 2009 07:12 PM

I also heard about the above by the trade, regarding import cars.

I was stopped with a smaller plate when passing through an ANPR roadside sting set-up. The traffic copper was basically going to give me a fixed penalty fine and said that they could endorse with three points as well. I asked about the import "bit" and he said it was total crap..... the same regulations apply for a UK registered vehicle, regardless of it being an import. Luckily I had the standard plate on the seat and managed to stick this over the other smaller front plate. That stopped me the three points. I then virtually begged him that the smaller plate would never be going back on, so he agreed to let me off, just as he was about to write the ticket out for the fine.

Suffice to say I can't be arsed with the risk of getting caught, so the standard plate has/will be staying on.

TonyBurns 08 September 2009 07:14 PM

Its all here, alot to trawl through but hey, it will put you to sleep tonight :lol1:

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2001/uksi_20010561_en.pdf

Tony:)

gc8-r 08 September 2009 07:51 PM

well i wont argue......thats what the dvla supplyed so let them argue it out...
and my dvla paper work says import..so import plates were fitted
as law does not state "where it has to be fitted"
as for the anpr..they are based next to where i live and never got pulled by them...
maybe it's the car or the way its driven that gets you pulled.......
and had same size plate on all my imports for 9 years and never pulled because of them.
and see them most mornings and afternoons,and still never had a problem......

Shaun 08 September 2009 08:48 PM

gc8-r,
I am only stating what happened to me and what the Police said at the time (earlier this year). If you think I was going to state that x,y,z off the internet told me it was alright, so tough ****, just as he was writing the ticket out you can think again! :D Since I was driving at sub 30mph in a built up area, I doubt very much it was anything to do with my driving! ;)

Why don't you pull it next time to an ANPR set-up and ask them what the legalities are around a non-standard number plate and if they are legal if on a UK registered car, but imported. Regardless of whether you have been pulled before or not, it would be interested to hear what they say.

Fangoria 08 September 2009 08:51 PM

Ah - it was updated in 2001 ;-)

I looked into this in 2001 and there was no size requirement as long as the plate was on the front of the car and needed to be virtually vertical - so a sticker on the bonnet is/was definately illegal as are those number plates you see inside the car under the visor!
It was/used to be part of the MOT test - then again its so easy to get an MOT these days that the rules are irrelevant for those purposes

The law back then stated that the height needed to be 79mm (cant remember width) and that there needed to be 11mm inbetween each number/letter

The plate size was irrelevant

My numbers are just a bit smaller than the legal limit and the plate size is only about 5mm more either side - i.e. its much smaller than std

Been stopped twice and I persuaded the Police that my number plate was 'within the law' and I even told them the law - to which one asked if I had a tape measure! - obviously I dont

gc8-r 08 September 2009 09:32 PM

shaun did'nt mean any offence...
and fangoria,plate size is still as it was,"no requirments or sizes"just font sizes
but the law changed again last year,and my plates are within the dvla regulations,who set the plate size and what is required...
thats why i never get any trouble,if the filth want to question it with me,i'd argue it ,and tell them i'm licenced from the dvla to make plates to regulations...
then watch them argue with the people who set the standards..

IanW 08 September 2009 10:09 PM

From my memory it hasnt changed since 2001, and if there is space to fit a standard UK sized number plate (which there is on the Impreza) then one should be fitted that complies with BS AU 145D.

It is only imports that cant fit a standard size UK plate that are allowed a slightly smaller plate.

N_Scooby 09 September 2009 08:48 AM

There is no legal size of plate - but the characters have to be the legal size and spacing, with a set size of border around it. I have a square one fitted over my passenger side foglight cover. I did find a DVLA site with the legal sizes on and cut my original plate down to size to just leave the legal minimum border. Just looked and can't find this site now - seems its changed to just give you names of approved suppliers in your area .


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