Rights on choosing school place
Hi,just a quick question, what are your rights in choosing a school? do you only have a choice of schools within a certain distance from where you live or can you choose a school say 25miles away?thanks
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I don't think distance is allowed to figure at all.
That might seem completely stupid, but I believe it is part of government policy to stop people buying houses near nice schools etc. Bit like bussing in the US to counter what had become, basically a racially segregated school system. The obvious fact that most of the people it is deemed might be assisted by such a policy couldn't give a sh1t where their children go to school seems to have escaped them however. Should be good for 4x4 sales though:thumb: |
You can list ANY SCHOOL
Of course if that school has distance as one of its admissions criteria you are wasting your time |
Originally Posted by Phil
(Post 8611910)
You can list ANY SCHOOL
Of course if that school has distance as on of its admissions criteria you are wasting your time |
It certainly is distance related in our borough. You can choose 3 in order of preference but if its miles away then there is less chance of getting in.
There are a few criteria as well as distance - siblings and special needs being two |
You can choose any state school you wish to.
The problem only comes if they are full. |
the whole system is a sham
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This is a section from my schools admission policy booklet
Community and voluntary controlled secondary schools The Local Authority determines the Admission Policy and oversubscription criteria for all community and voluntary controlled schools. When a community or voluntary controlled secondary school is oversubscribed the following criteria will be applied to determine which pupils have priority for admission: 1 Children who are in public care. 2 Those children who are considered to have an exceptional medical or social reason as to why they should attend a particular school (parents will be required to submit evidence to support their application under this criterion - please see note below). 3 Those children living within the geographical priority area for a school who have a sibling at the school, in order of those next nearest to the school. 4 Those children living within the geographical priority area for a school who do not have a sibling at the school, in order of those next nearest to the school. 5 Those children who live outside the geographical priority area with a sibling at the school, in order of those next nearest to the school. 6 Those children who live outside the geographical priority area without a sibling at the school, in order of those next nearest to the school. TIE BREAK CRITERION It is possible that at some stage of applying the above criteria, a school becomes oversubscribed with requests for places. In these cases, parents who live closest to the school will be offered the remaining places. These distances will be calculated using the two data points of home post code and school post code using a straight line measurement. EXCEPTIONAL MEDICAL OR SOCIAL REASONS If parents are claiming that there are exceptional medical or social reasons why their child should be prioritized above other applicants, they must give reasons for this claim which must be supported by evidence from a registered professional, such as a doctor or social worker. The evidence must demonstrate the reasons why the school in question is the most suitable school, why an alternative school would not meet the child’s needs and the difficulties that would be caused if the child had to attend another school. That evidence will be assessed by a panel of at least three senior officers. The School Admission Code 2007 states that admission authorities must not give higher priority to children under this criterion if the required documents have not been produced. SIBLING LINK The LA accepts that in some family units (1 or 2 parents/carers and children), the children may not be natural brothers and/or sisters. Older children from the same family unit, living at the same address, can be considered as a sibling link under this criterion. Checks will be made with the relevant schools that siblings do live at the same address. PERMANENT ADDRESS The only address the LA can consider is the permanent home address of the child. The permanent home address is considered to be the address of the adult/s with whom the child is permanently resident. Where a child stays with another parent for part of the week, further enquiries may be made in order to determine where the child is predominantly resident. CHILDCARE ARRANGEMENTS If a childminder, grandparents, or other family member cares for the child on a daily basis at another address, the LA cannot consider this address for the purpose of the school admission process. |
Originally Posted by zeuss
(Post 8612242)
This is a section from my schools admission policy booklet
Community and voluntary controlled secondary schools The Local Authority determines the Admission Policy and oversubscription criteria for all community and voluntary controlled schools. When a community or voluntary controlled secondary school is oversubscribed the following criteria will be applied to determine which pupils have priority for admission: 1 Children who are in public care. 2 Those children who are considered to have an exceptional medical or social reason as to why they should attend a particular school (parents will be required to submit evidence to support their application under this criterion - please see note below). 3 Those children living within the geographical priority area for a school who have a sibling at the school, in order of those next nearest to the school. 4 Those children living within the geographical priority area for a school who do not have a sibling at the school, in order of those next nearest to the school. 5 Those children who live outside the geographical priority area with a sibling at the school, in order of those next nearest to the school. 6 Those children who live outside the geographical priority area without a sibling at the school, in order of those next nearest to the school. TIE BREAK CRITERION It is possible that at some stage of applying the above criteria, a school becomes oversubscribed with requests for places. In these cases, parents who live closest to the school will be offered the remaining places. These distances will be calculated using the two data points of home post code and school post code using a straight line measurement. EXCEPTIONAL MEDICAL OR SOCIAL REASONS If parents are claiming that there are exceptional medical or social reasons why their child should be prioritized above other applicants, they must give reasons for this claim which must be supported by evidence from a registered professional, such as a doctor or social worker. The evidence must demonstrate the reasons why the school in question is the most suitable school, why an alternative school would not meet the child’s needs and the difficulties that would be caused if the child had to attend another school. That evidence will be assessed by a panel of at least three senior officers. The School Admission Code 2007 states that admission authorities must not give higher priority to children under this criterion if the required documents have not been produced. SIBLING LINK The LA accepts that in some family units (1 or 2 parents/carers and children), the children may not be natural brothers and/or sisters. Older children from the same family unit, living at the same address, can be considered as a sibling link under this criterion. Checks will be made with the relevant schools that siblings do live at the same address. PERMANENT ADDRESS The only address the LA can consider is the permanent home address of the child. The permanent home address is considered to be the address of the adult/s with whom the child is permanently resident. Where a child stays with another parent for part of the week, further enquiries may be made in order to determine where the child is predominantly resident. CHILDCARE ARRANGEMENTS If a childminder, grandparents, or other family member cares for the child on a daily basis at another address, the LA cannot consider this address for the purpose of the school admission process. |
Do your homework and move if needed - education of your child is a one-shot thing.
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My son is 7 weeks old, and Im thinking about schools already. Some good schools have a 2 year waiting list !!!!
Any advice to a new father about what to do, how to choose a good school ?? SBK |
The only schools that have waiting lists are private, or nurserys etc. When applying for the 1st year of any school, its a complete lottery, no preferences for those that get their application in 1st - in fact the forms aren't issued until a set time so you can't get in early anyway. Believe me I've been there!
But regarding nurserys, if you are thinking of using one then do the research now and put his name down for all of them now, you can always remove his name from the list. There certainly can be 1 year+ waiting lists for the choice nurserys, then along comes a mediocre Ofstead report and everything switches to the new one in favour, lol |
Originally Posted by Simon K
(Post 8612581)
My son is 7 weeks old, and Im thinking about schools already. Some good schools have a 2 year waiting list !!!!
Any advice to a new father about what to do, how to choose a good school ?? SBK |
School entry experts - do I have to send my children to school in my own local authority? I live right on the border (it is literally at the end of our garden) and there is a great school just over the border?
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You'll be at the back of the queue behind children who live within the catchment area.
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But it is possible? :-)
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You may have seen a thread I started a while back about primary schools and about the disappointment of not being offered one of our preferred schools first time round (although we did get lucky and eventually got our 2st choice from being on their waiting list).
In answer to the OPs question, you only have the right to state a preference to a school, but as other posters have said, it will ultimately all come down to the entry criteria of that school and the availability of places. Have a look here as a number of people made comments: https://www.scoobynet.com/non-scooby...placement.html |
You can send your child to any Private, Public or Independent school you like if you can afford it and your child can meet the academic requirements. If you're considering a state school, I'd just send little Johnny off to start queuing outside the benefits office now. :D
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Originally Posted by Spooky Mulder
(Post 8612902)
But it is possible? :-)
I live in the countryside roughly 2 miles from the town where I went to school, but because I am across a border, I was supposed to go to a school 20 miles away. How crazy is that? All my friends were in the town 2 miles away, so my parents managed to get me into both the Primary, and High School there. Can't imagine how different my life would be now if they hadn't done that. So it is possible, and this comment isn't totally irrelevant as I'm only 21. :lol1: |
you can list any school but they will send you to the one that suits them not you
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