My 335D Mapped
 

Superchips Bluefin to be precise.

Apart from a minor issue with applying the map last night due to a second stage ignition that was needed and not mentioned in the manual or the fault codes listed (and a small amount of crapping myself as the car failed to start at all with all sorts of diagnostic failures and errors coming up on the car....), I finally applied it this morning.

Stock Power is:
~286 BHP
432 Ft Lb.

The map is a generic map applied with a hand held device and it allows easy application and removal of the maps in literally about 2 minutes... Due to it being generic and therefore not mapped individually on a RR, the price is both low (£380) and conservative in the gains to ensure the map tolerance is OK for any small discrepancies in the standard 335 units.... However increases claimed equate to:

335 BHP
500 Ft Lb

Specifically mapped cars can release 520 Ft Lbs and 360 BHP for about £400 more.

There's not a lot of info from the field on whether these gains are accurate, but driving the car today I can confirm the gains are significant.

The car now feels totally more alive. As I'm doing a lot of town driving, the main noticeable difference is from the BHP gain. It really does pull and feel like a petrol car now (seems more free revving and smoother) and has very similar pull and shove to my old and now Si's T20. The semi-autobox makes the car stunning to drive and the gear changes remain seamless and allow constant acceleration. In standard D mode, the car changes quickly through to the higher gears but the improvement in acceleration here is stunning. In fact, the std traction control is now kicking in a lot and damping the power away... I know have to engage dynamic traction control (simple button press with the next stage being off completely) in order to give the rear wheels the freedom they need.

In sport mode (DS), you can manually shift and hold onto the power band much better. All 500 Ft Lbs are available from 1700-3500 revs. Remember this is a diesel so the power band is narrow. Keeping it in there isn't a chore at all and isn't an issue, especially with such phenomenal overtaking power now available... there really is no need to rev it to the redline anymore to squeeze the power out.

All in all.....an unbeliveable amount of difference for a small price. previously the car could pull away (albeit slowly) from a 380 BHP Scoob in lazy D mode at cruising speeds... Now? It would fair motor away as well as be able to stand up well to the low speed acceleration.

It's never going to compete in the hard twisties with 200kg to lug about and a much more compliant suspension.. but for 99% of the time.. this thing will now be very hard to beat.

The next stage is to get it on AET's Dynapack, but frst we have to check that the auto box will not cause unreliable results as it doesn't lend itself well to RR's as it can still change up and down if the revs fall below a 'safe' level or go above the redline... Either way, I'll be looking to get a proper graph to show to see if lives up the the claims..

For starters, here is the Superchips generic map from a car that making 16 BHP down on standard....

http://www.superchips.co.uk/curves/335d286bhp.pdf

Nicely mate.. and power per pounds (notes) well you can't argue with that

you missed one of these :D

:lol1: I was trying to be objective & professional....

But I suppose a little smugness can be allowed.... :D

BMW
 

Hi Al,
I found the 330D changing gear(auto box with chip) at high and low revs to be a pain in the arse too,it would allways change just as you would have liked a little more in that gear, Also the dsg never actually did turn off.... it was allways there just slowing you down, more so on brisk starts out of a junction is that what you find?

Still good smooth fun the ole smoker Eh!!

Steve

Sounds good mate. CB was telling me all about it at the monday meet.

I did find it (still do when pushing on) a problem on the Stelvio run. There are still times when I do want it to hold onto to the top of the rev line or have an expectation that it's still in 3rd and I want to change down, only to find it's already done it and I'm slotting 1st...

The TC isn't a problem as I don't drive to the point of needing total back out lunacy or tyre shredding burnouts... so I'm happy with it kicking in to save me from the dreaded dry styone walls!

Martyn.. it is mate...:cool:

Nice one, you'll have to pop into work one day if you get chance and i'll have a proper nosey at it.

I too am in the beemer club now with an E46 M3 SMG. The evo had to go as it was starting to cost more money that i wanted to spend on it!

See you soon mate.

Martyn

Can't say I've seen a M3 there.... :wonder:

But definitely... I'll pop in as I have some news regarding my new job :norty:

This isn't my job.... But You any good at Cisco, Pix & other networky stuff??

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Defo gunna have to pop over and have that test drive you promised,i remember us being slightly tipsy ,when you offered,but i've just remembered.....:)

sounds good alan, did you not fancy e maps ???
my 535 is 330 bhp @ 660 torque , and move,s well :D

Hi mate... :thumb:

No.. I preferred the ease of the Bluefin as I don't have to worry too much about reflashing after a service etc...

I'm trying to work out your 660... Is that 660 NM and not Ft Lbs? 660 Ft Lbs = 895 NM.... I thought the gearbox went into Limp mode at 700 nm... if that is 660 Ft Lbs then that's pretty staggering... and a special map from the Evolve boys?

Unless you mean 660 NM where that = 486 ft Lbs.... pretty similar to mine @ ~667 & 500

660 NM:D

Was I that drunk??? :lol1:

You know where I am buddy... :thumb:

Phew!

I was going to get my money back!! :lol1:

All that power and "smugness" and no fookin indicators:D

:lol1:

Had a 5 series do that on me today... what a prat...

It's a good job I'm ex Scoob driver and have a decent level of smugness tied in with good manners...

:lol::lol::lol::thumb:

Sob I'm lagging behind with a tardy 525 Nm....

LOL

dunx

Remember the 335 is a 3 Ltr, 6 cyl twin turbo....

Hi Alan

The car sounds amazing, cant wait to see it, and hopefully you could take me out for a quick spin? Might just be tempted with a similar car if the Impreza sells.

Raf

Hi mate. I'd be more than happy to take you out for a spin... :thumb:

Just let me know when you're in the area or want to pop down and we can nip out...

DIESEL !

Cough, hack,spit.... choke, argh the fumes....

;)

dunx

I know I shouldn't react.... but.....

Have you heard and seen this unit? Not an ounce of smoke.... fantastic particulate filtering... :cool:

Changed your mind again :lol1:

I have to make do with a measly 420Nm :(

Al, I may have to contact RedMan to see if we can borrow his Driftbox. I'd love to know what the 30-70 is now. Standard 3.3s is :notworthy but you might be below 3s now :eek:

I'll check on the BM forums and see if anyone has done any times...

From a mapped 335D owner...

50-70 = 2.6secs
30-70 = 4.4secs
0-100 = 11.9secs

Not sure how he measured them as the board went off for updates... but I'll ask when it comes back.


For comparison... a WR1 will do the;
50-70 = 4.6
30-50 = 4
0-100 = 10.67

Hmm, Googling 335D's the 30-70 I usually see quoted for a standard car is 3.3s, with the V10 M5 trundling in behind at 3.7s ;) I'll see if I can contact Dave and get his box of tricks and we'll go find a quiet straight road for some abu... err, testing :idea:

It's just too easy...

Smog burners unite, the world is ours.... ;)

Seriously, my sis bought a Nova SXi TD back in 1992, I saw all this coming (with trepidation !) that little baby flew. Handling was a laugh, but it wasted the SR of the day with no trouble.

Wonder how the STI'D will fare ?

dunx

30-70 mph stats:

Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VII extreme (VII)
4.4 secs
135 BMW 5 series M5 (E39 (98-03))
4.3 secs
136 Mercedes S class S55 AMG (221 (02 - ))
4.1 secs
137 Mitsubishi Lancer Evo Vi Tomi Makinen (VI)
4.1 secs
138 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI GSR (VI)
4.1 secs
139 Holden HSV GTS s (0)
4.0 secs
140 Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VII Fast Road (VII)
4.0 secs
141 Mercedes C class C32 AMG (203 (00 - ))
3.9 secs
142 Lotus Carlton - (-)
3.8 secs
143 Mercedes E class E55 AMG (211 (02 - ))
3.7 secs
144 BMW 5 series M5 (E60 (05-))
3.6 secs

Apart from a minor issue with applying the map last night due to a second stage ignition...

Is this actually a NASA product ?

LOL

dunx