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BIG FUD 05 February 2010 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 9204851)
Immy,
The Blue Printed engine just means it "should" last a bit longer! ;)

Should being the correct word..

rickya 05 February 2010 04:54 PM

Immy, Id make a Hawkeye Spec C into the track car.
The S204 is not as good a base & is essentialy a JDM sti with a few bits & bobs thrown on & the RAR is a bit too special to muck about with IMO!

T5NYW 05 February 2010 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by LitchfieldImports (Post 9202616)
Immy, you'll want our LM400 turbo if spool up is critical as this responds like standard (or better on some applications) but will produce 400bhp. It easily out performs our old Hybrid versions :)

Iain,

Have you an Idea of what of "all inclusive fitted kit" would be for my T20?

ie, Turbo + heat sheild + injectors + Remap + fitting + "whatever" + VAT = 1 fitted LM420-S60 kit = £xxxx

Cause I'm really only interested in the final end Price .

Tony

LitchfieldImports 05 February 2010 05:38 PM

Immy the intake pipe we ran on the hybrid turbos was bigger than the STI one. Subaru said they "blue printed" the S204 engines and apparently weighed each component by hand to insure a better balance. Its sounds more impressive than saying we stuck a marginally larger compressor wheel on the turbo and turned the boost up for all the extra money sir ;)

Tony you have PM, would you like me to price another new clutch as well :D

T5NYW 05 February 2010 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by LitchfieldImports (Post 9205273)
Tony you have PM

Iain sorry it didn't arrive :brickwall maybe it didn't send due to your rather full inbox :D


Originally Posted by LitchfieldImports (Post 9205273)
would you like me to price another new clutch as well

:lol::lol: I wasn't going to let a little bit of mechanical sympathy get in the way of beating an Evo :norty:

Anyway this clutch should be OK. You said it had a 500mile guaranty mind you did give it a 495 mile test drive :p LOL

you could email me t5nyw@live.co.uk

Tony

juggers 05 February 2010 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by rickya (Post 9205178)
Immy, Id make a Hawkeye Spec C into the track car.
The S204 is not as good a base & is essentialy a JDM sti with a few bits & bobs thrown on & the RAR is a bit too special to muck about with IMO!


Not going to turn the S204 into a track car i want an ra-r or S204 for road use and a spec c for track. Was thinking of getting the 420 version for the road car and the 450 version for the track car.

Immy

Shaun 05 February 2010 07:48 PM

Tony,
Stop fannying about and get a twin plate installed...... just don't let Iain drive it though. He stalled mine last time he drove it. :D

T5NYW 08 February 2010 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 9205631)
Tony,
Stop fannying about and get a twin plate installed...... .

LOL last one did 5K miles :Whatever_:rolleyes:


Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 9205631)
just don't let Iain drive it though. He stalled mine last time he drove it.

Iains got to used to Nissans and Flappy Paddle g/boxes ;)

Went Litchfields Saturday to see about which Turbo for me ;) Iain suggested I got a Brain to start with LOL and to give me the best of both worlds the LM400

Tony

Shaun 08 February 2010 10:05 PM

If a twin plate only lasted you 5k miles, you either bought a dodgy one or you don't know how to drive! :D

Mine has clocked up over 14k miles and has had some right abuse..... and I certainly don't know how to drive! :D

Forget the LM400.... grab your nuts and go for the LM480! ;)

T5NYW 09 February 2010 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 9212536)
If a twin plate only lasted you 5k miles, you either bought a dodgy one or you don't know how to drive! :D

Mine has clocked up over 14k miles and has had some right abuse..... and I certainly don't know how to drive! :D

:lol: LOL no single oooops, well really less than 5km :rolleyes:

closer to 50miles= 1 airfield Track + 1 timer 0-60mph event + 2 EVO's = 1 single plate clutch :thumb:


Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 9212536)
Forget the LM400.... grab your nuts and go for the LM480! ;)

They will need higher Tyre walls :lol1:

Tony

scatty 09 February 2010 06:29 PM

any more news on the lm450????:)

TimH 09 February 2010 06:37 PM

Not sure anyone on this thread has a 450 fitted yet? I've got a 480, but I'm waiting on the Milltek downpipe with the broken welds being returned and refitted...tomorrow, hopefully :)

Shaun 09 February 2010 07:34 PM

Fingers crossed for you Tim! :)

scatty 09 February 2010 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by tim hardisty (Post 9214212)
Not sure anyone on this thread has a 450 fitted yet? I've got a 480, but I'm waiting on the Milltek downpipe with the broken welds being returned and refitted...tomorrow, hopefully :)

woops, thats what i meant....its me who wants the 450...just awaiting your finished article. hope all goes well for you bud....:thumb:

MelTypeR 10 February 2010 07:28 AM

Scatty - Mine is going to Iain's next week to have the LM450-S60 fitted together with his injectors.
So hopefully will have results on it in a couple of weeks, as it wont be fully mapped till the 23rd of feb.

Mel

scatty 10 February 2010 06:46 PM

thanks mel.....:luxhello:

T20Driver 10 February 2010 07:55 PM

Went on the same rollers that I had previously been on when the car was in previous setup yesterday.

I am NOT going to give out what the 'stats' were .. because that is exactly what they are ... history ... as Iain used the data to analyse improvements that could be made .. and today we spent 2+ hours improving the map considerably.

I will however say this :

Iain's data gathering was primarily done on a MY08 JDM STi with FMIC and Induction Kit ... so don't be surprised or disappointed if you don't hit exactly the expected power levels if you haven't got those on your car ... That said ..... whoever gets one of these turbos and has it mapped properly is not going to be disappointed at all with the way the car drives .. it is simply wonderful, giving it the much needed 'grunt' that was missing mid to late revs in standard form

As an example ...

Before the improvements were made today .. an overlay on my previous standard turbo showed that spool up on the new turbo was just 100k revs later .. and it created 55 more hp by 6.3k revs. Now ... I would not be surprised if spool up is quicker AND probably generating more than 65 hp more .. or possibly even more

The original JDM STi turbo ran out of puff by 6.3k ... but this is not the case now ... it really is a great turbo and 'feels right' for the car as both a very quick daily driver, as well as more serious track car

Go on .. you know you want to ......

juggers 10 February 2010 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by T20Driver (Post 9216548)
Went on the same rollers that I had previously been on when the car was in previous setup yesterday.

I am NOT going to give out what the 'stats' were .. because that is exactly what they are ... history ... as Iain used the data to analyse improvements that could be made .. and today we spent 2+ hours improving the map considerably.

I will however say this :

Iain's data gathering was primarily done on a MY08 JDM STi with FMIC and Induction Kit ... so don't be surprised or disappointed if you don't hit exactly the expected power levels if you haven't got those on your car ... That said ..... whoever gets one of these turbos and has it mapped properly is not going to be disappointed at all with the way the car drives .. it is simply wonderful, giving it the much needed 'grunt' that was missing mid to late revs in standard form

As an example ...

Before the improvements were made today .. an overlay on my previous standard turbo showed that spool up on the new turbo was just 100k revs later .. and it created 55 more hp by 6.3k revs. Now ... I would not be surprised if spool up is quicker AND probably generating more than 65 hp more .. or possibly even more

The original JDM STi turbo ran out of puff by 6.3k ... but this is not the case now ... it really is a great turbo and 'feels right' for the car as both a very quick daily driver, as well as more serious track car

Go on .. you know you want to ......

Sounds like the VF42 compared to the standard vf37. but with more pwer.

stanmo 11 February 2010 08:46 AM

Does anyone know what the waiting list is like, now that you guys have helped with the publicity ? :-)

I'm after a 450, but will also need a replacement 2.5 block, pistons, injectors, etc and a rebuild of the ASTs on my T25; which is estimated at around 2 weeks.

Can anyone speculate whether that figure is achievable with a top mount/cold air feed?

T20Driver 11 February 2010 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by stanmo (Post 9217370)
Does anyone know what the waiting list is like, now that you guys have helped with the publicity ? :-)

I'm after a 450, but will also need a replacement 2.5 block, pistons, injectors, etc and a rebuild of the ASTs on my T25; which is estimated at around 2 weeks.

Can anyone speculate whether that figure is achievable with a top mount/cold air feed?

You really do need to talk to Iain re achievability of 450 with a TMIC and CAI ... as different turbo to mine .. 420 .. and different engine .. mine is 2.0ltr still .... however Tim's 2.5 did 460 odd I think with 'something not quite right' and on a 480 turbo with FMIC and CAI ... so .... you'd possibly get close (in my limited and uneducated opinion) if mapped for and on the road ... as I believe it is the sitting on the rollers that kills the power due to TMIC heat soak as insufficient air flow to and around the engine using just the normal RR fan

In terms of availability of turbos ... whilst I was there Jenny was packing up quite a few for dispatch ... and she's been doing that quite a bit recently ... not sure which model(s) .. but again ... Iain is your man ... .. or Jenny is your lady ... you decide .. !!

They can be contacted on : 01684 850 999 or 07887 622 177

LitchfieldImports 11 February 2010 11:45 AM

Thanks Chris. Lead time is about 2 weeks at the moment and another batch of housings arriving at the end of the month :)

Tim's LM480 is fine, blowing exhaust was probably the main problem. Just tried it now and it's making full boost at 3,300 with a less than optimal map due to the exhaust problem. I'm sure once its 100% Simon will have it flying :D

SPEN555 11 February 2010 02:44 PM

Hmmm must resist must resist :D

T5NYW 11 February 2010 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by T20Driver (Post 9217427)
... as I believe it is the sitting on the rollers that kills the TMICs power due to heat soak as insufficient air flow to and around the engine using just the normal RR fan

EXACTLY why i was at iains last Saturday afternoon :thumb: i went to a RR day near Iains Place.

I went to EVO RR day with a mate in EVo FQ360 my T20 350bhp. Wer were about simular performance on the road trip there. :norty:

yet Roller showed mine (TMIC) 317bhp and his FQ (FMIC) 368bhp :rolleyes: they did say mine was running lean :Suspiciou but Iain checked it out and all was well. RR Fan by radiator not down scoop, bonnet not closed so no scoop seal. IMHO

I much prefer the backside BHP meter :notworthy
Tony

Ps. Jenny did notce i had 2 Turbo dynamics boxes under my arm on my way out ;) I was just helping them out :lol1:

ZEN Performance 11 February 2010 05:39 PM

How much is the competitve product?


Originally Posted by Kayen (Post 9204713)
It might not be as bad, but I wouldn't call it good when I have to spend $1.59 USD for 1 GBP.

This turbo ends up costing us approx. $2,400 USD.


allza 11 February 2010 05:54 PM

T20 driver, can't you put up the graph of your turbo? It may help me and others who are not sure what turbo variant to get. HP and boost would be nice to see.

Kayen 11 February 2010 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by ZEN Performance (Post 9218332)
How much is the competitve product?

If you are asking what other Twin Entry turbo out there costs...well there isn't one that fits in the stock location. That wasn't the point I was getting at though. As I was trying to say that the US dollar sucks compared to the Pound lol.

T20Driver 11 February 2010 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by allza (Post 9218359)
T20Driver, can't you put up the graph of your turbo? It may help me and others who are not sure what turbo variant to get. HP and boost would be nice to see.

I appreciate your desire for this information but believe me it would be utterly pointless ... the map now is TOTALLY different ... as is the car's performance.

As an example (if I can remember correctly) .. Iain moved the spool up to be earlier, addressed a slight dip in performance mid range as well as focusing on a drop off at high revs by a combination of adding more boost, leaning out the fuel and minimised the likelihood of ignition reduction when the temp got too hot ... ie it is a significantly different animal

Again .. as I keep saying on this forum .. talk to Iain ... especially on how each version compares .... all I can say is that he was very impressed with its performance yesterday once we'd finished the mapping for a car with no upgraded Induction or FMIC .. and he has the laptop with all the data on it ....

Furthermore .. I was grinning from ear to ear going home yesterday as well as when driving today.

What I will do is try to get some on the road figures looking at my gauges and speedo over the next few days or so ...

TimH 11 February 2010 07:33 PM

And, just to keep everyone up to date with mine...

The turbo's back on and it all seems to be running OK. I'm having the rear AST's serviced while the car's up at Iain's, and I hope to collect it on Saturday.

I'm discussing dates with Simon (JGM) as it needs the map tweaking to correct the over-fuelling that resulted from mapping the car with a FUBARed downpipe <sigh>.

So, I'm unlikely to have anything more to report until the end of next week at the earliest I'm afraid.

T20Driver 11 February 2010 07:52 PM

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What I will show is an extract of how different the turbo performs compare to the standard at the top end .. BUT REMEMBER ... this has now been improved further

solid line is bhp ... dotted torque .. top lines of each the new turbo .. the bottom ones the old turbo

Attachment 62768

T20Driver 11 February 2010 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by Kayen (Post 9218371)
If you are asking what other Twin Entry turbo out there costs...well there isn't one that fits in the stock location. That wasn't the point I was getting at though. As I was trying to say that the US dollar sucks compared to the Pound lol.

As per the comments above by others .. I really don't think you'll get a much better time to buy one considering the massive advantages for you given the exchange rate at the moment ...


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