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wrighty338 20 February 2009 01:52 PM

indicator/wiper swap
 
how hard would it be to swap the indicator + wipers from left to right like a jdm car on a uk car?

N_Scooby 20 February 2009 02:18 PM

I never even reliased they were the other way round. Learn something new every day :wonder:

BLU 20 February 2009 07:51 PM

If you find out let me know as I want to do the same :D

Fed up of indicating with the wipers :lol1:

Prob best to find out what models have the indicators on the left. Anybody know?? :wonder:

BLU 22 February 2009 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by blu-scoob (Post 8525247)

Prob best to find out what models have the indicators on the left. Anybody know?? :wonder:



Someone must know :D Classics with indicators on left and wipers on right??

John 37 23 February 2009 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by blu-scoob (Post 8529264)
Someone must know :D Classics with indicators on left and wipers on right??

My 2000 Classic has indicators on the left.
I thought all UK cars were like that.

John

tanyatriangles 23 February 2009 08:55 PM

AFAIK all UK cars are like that. Changing would be a PITA though, the wiring would be a nightmare to change, although the parts would be easy to get from a scrappy, and are a doddle to remove/refit.

BLU 24 February 2009 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by tanyatriangles (Post 8533089)
AFAIK all UK cars are like that. Changing would be a PITA though, the wiring would be a nightmare to change, although the parts would be easy to get from a scrappy, and are a doddle to remove/refit.

I have an My97 UK model (facelift bonnet and lights but early bumper + interior) and the indicators are on the right (its a PITA when your other two cars are on the left :lol1: ). Sound like its only full facelift that have them on the left! Will try and source a set and give it a go!! :thumb:

tanyatriangles 24 February 2009 05:54 PM

Saloon, or wagon? I just HAPPEN to have a full set off a saloon, in my garage, doing nowt............make me an offer?

BLU 24 February 2009 08:31 PM

tanyatriangles you have PM :D

tanyatriangles 25 February 2009 11:48 AM

Responded.

Hol 25 February 2009 05:00 PM

I look at doing this on my V5 TypeR about 5 years ago.
Im afraid it is not a simple plug and replace. (STI5 to P1 compared car to car wiring)

Parts were obviously newer/rarer then and harder to find - so i did not bother, but you will need:

UK Wagon/P1/Forester wiper stalk (For the rear wash wipe control) [Or wire in a separate rear wiper switch].
Any UK Indicator stalk (I think they all have the dimmer control).
The stalk cage (that they bolt to) was differrent if I recall as well, its only a case of taking the steering wheel off and unbolt to change them though.
Apart from that - you also need the plugs from a UK loom as the JDM ones do not swap over. If you can get the first few inches of UK wiring as well, you can splice it in easier using the wire colurs as a guide. Otherwise you will need a friendly Uk owner to park his car next door - for reference when you do it.

John 37 25 February 2009 10:57 PM


Originally Posted by Hol (Post 8537643)
I look at doing this on my V5 TypeR about 5 years ago.
Im afraid it is not a simple plug and replace. (STI5 to P1 compared car to car wiring)

Parts were obviously newer/rarer then and harder to find - so i did not bother, but you will need:

UK Wagon/P1/Forester wiper stalk (For the rear wash wipe control) [Or wire in a separate rear wiper switch].
Any UK Indicator stalk (I think they all have the dimmer control).
The stalk cage (that they bolt to) was differrent if I recall as well, its only a case of taking the steering wheel off and unbolt to change them though.
Apart from that - you also need the plugs from a UK loom as the JDM ones do not swap over. If you can get the first few inches of UK wiring as well, you can splice it in easier using the wire colurs as a guide. Otherwise you will need a friendly Uk owner to park his car next door - for reference when you do it.

Dimmer control?
There's nothing on my 2000 Clasic estate.

John

tanyatriangles 26 February 2009 11:36 AM

My classic has no dimmer.

The stalks I had were from a 1998 car, I bought a set WITH rear wash-wipe switches from GradeA when I retro-fitted rear wash-wipe to the car, and the "kit" I got from GradeA was a full set of stalks, so I just used the r/h one on my car.

Hol 26 February 2009 12:05 PM

It's me having a bad memory re the dimmer. My twin scroll jdm newage had one. Also my Uk forester turbo My99 has one on the indicator. I sold the TypeR that long ago, it's hard to picture.

The wiper would be an issue if you could only get saloon stalks. But there is a thread where some retofitted a rear jdm screen on a Jk classic and used (iirc) a fiesta rear wiper switch.
So all parts should be easy to find.

BLU 26 February 2009 04:14 PM

Well I now have a set to try out (thanx tanyatriangles ;) ) so will post how hard or how easy it was when I've had a go. :D

And I've got a saloon so don't need the rear wash wipe function :p

Hol 26 February 2009 06:13 PM

Yeah, I acually misread the first post.

I was talking about changing JDM to UK spec, not UK to JDM spec. (JDM Saloons having a rear wiper - UK's not)

wrighty338 01 March 2009 12:51 PM

blue-scoob you doin the opposite to what i posted then? putting wipers on the right, and putting indicators onto the left?

BLU 01 March 2009 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by wrighty338 (Post 8546208)
blue-scoob you doin the opposite to what i posted then? putting wipers on the right, and putting indicators onto the left?


Yes I am, its my job this avy. :D
Why do you want to put your indicators on the right? :Suspiciou

wrighty338 03 March 2009 09:55 AM

im right handed, mostly have my right hand on the wheel. i find it easier to use the stalk on the right rather then taking my hand off the gear stick to signal!

tanyatriangles 03 March 2009 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by blu-scoob (Post 8546258)
Yes I am, its my job this avy. :D
Why do you want to put your indicators on the right? :Suspiciou

How did it go? Or not?

BLU 03 March 2009 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by tanyatriangles (Post 8550211)
How did it go? Or not?

Stalks are mounted. Not a sraight fit in the slightest (but I knew that was going to be the case!!). Needed a bracket fabricating as the bolt holes are in completely different postions. Also the cage needed modding to get the indicator canceller to work. The cowling will need to be modded as well but thats a job for another day!! :D
Next job is wiring, going to have to source some wiring diagrams to help me!! Once I've established which wires are which I can get splicing!!
Whilst I'm at it I'm going to put a permanent live feed to the sidelights so I can ditch that cr@ppy parking light switch as I have something else to go in its place!! :norty:

tanyatriangles 03 March 2009 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by blu-scoob (Post 8550892)
Stalks are mounted. Not a sraight fit in the slightest (but I knew that was going to be the case!!). Needed a bracket fabricating as the bolt holes are in completely different postions. Also the cage needed modding to get the indicator canceller to work. The cowling will need to be modded as well but thats a job for another day!! :D
Next job is wiring, going to have to source some wiring diagrams to help me!! Once I've established which wires are which I can get splicing!!
Whilst I'm at it I'm going to put a permanent live feed to the sidelights so I can ditch that cr@ppy parking light switch as I have something else to go in its place!! :norty:

Wow, I thought I'd gone into it pretty deep, changing the wiper stalk for one with a rear wash-wipe on it, then wiring in the rear wash-wipe from scratch.

Your project makes mine look like nowt.
Mind, I DID have to have a new rear winscreen fitted.......:D


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