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Dream Weaver 16 January 2009 09:24 AM

OK, I've decided to get one asap, but I have one final thing I need to sort out.

My wife is on Orange PAYG and is forever out of credit. My own mobile is on an Orange (Virgin value IIRC) plan that I had years ago that is like PAYG, but instead of vouchers you just pay for the calls you make - some months its £2, others its £10 and it works brilliantly.

So, would it be possible to port my number over to the iPhone, but somehow port my Mrs account and number over onto my current package?

I will try Orange today, but I always struggle with their customer services, so thought I should ask here first.

And, thanks to all for the great advice so far :)

ChefDude 16 January 2009 10:11 AM

I requested a PAC from Vodafone to get my new number
got the iPhone that day (PACS are valid for 30 days) and used the iphone on the temporary number.
got the PAC 2 days later and gave it to O2
2 days after that, the old sim and new sim went dead. left the iphone off for a couple of hours and when i switched on i was on my old ported number :)

lot less hassle these days.

Dream Weaver 17 January 2009 09:30 PM

Typing this reply on my new 16gb iPhone, bought today.

Awesome piece of tech. :)

TonyBurns 18 January 2009 12:14 AM

People seem to forget that you can talk on 2 or 3g ;) but its all the same time :)
Porting numbers takes 24 hours, basically your number is still held on oranges network and it is re routed to O2's netword with a prefix number (you will never even know about that unless you can see all the analysis data), but its just set up and away you go :) (your number is basically still one of oranges number ranges, they never leave that network).

Tony:)

Dream Weaver 18 January 2009 10:23 AM

I'm keeping the number they gave me as its a good one, and will keep the Orange package going as well.

I have my first issue though, the phone won't charge from the USB plug adaptor it came with, so I'm having to use my PC USB or Ipod dock to charge it so I guess a trip to an Apple store or O2 is in order.

Aside from that, what sort of cases do people use with them if any? I have a habit of chucking phones in my coat pocket with keys etc, so dont want it all scratched up. :rolleyes:

JackClark 18 January 2009 11:05 AM

Go to the Apple store if you can and try lots of different cases on your phone. I have a silicon sleeve that fits beautifully with only a rim around the face - ooo err! I've used the cheaper ones in the past but they go baggy pretty quickly, are too large to start with or cover too much of the face. Not sure of the brand of mine as I bought it in a Japanese Apple store.

mart360 18 January 2009 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by Dream Weaver (Post 8422683)
Does the N95/96 have a touch screen though, buttons are so 90's ;)


And one huge button sitting in your pocket just says yes at every movement.

Call comes in.....rinn....answered...cut off

call comes in....ri...answered ...cut off.


bugger that, and thats even with 3 supposed hot buttons to prevent this.



Buttons are your friend


Mart :D

boxst 18 January 2009 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by Dream Weaver (Post 8433884)
I'm keeping the number they gave me as its a good one, and will keep the Orange package going as well.

I have my first issue though, the phone won't charge from the USB plug adaptor it came with, so I'm having to use my PC USB or Ipod dock to charge it so I guess a trip to an Apple store or O2 is in order.

Aside from that, what sort of cases do people use with them if any? I have a habit of chucking phones in my coat pocket with keys etc, so dont want it all scratched up. :rolleyes:

The screens are quite resiliant, the back of the case less so.

My wife has one of these: SENA CASES :: APPLE iPHONE 3G ULTRA SLIM POUCH

Steve

ChefDude 18 January 2009 05:19 PM

Another vote for the sena pouch.

Markus 18 January 2009 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by Dream Weaver (Post 8433884)
I have my first issue though, the phone won't charge from the USB plug adaptor it came with, so I'm having to use my PC USB or Ipod dock to charge it so I guess a trip to an Apple store or O2 is in order.

It sounds as though the charger is defective, as the iPhone is charging via other methods. If you're going to pop along to the Apple Store, don't just walk in, make an appointment at the Genius Bar and they should swap you out a new one, if you just walk up they typically just say "sorry" and steer you towards the new ones on the wall, not very helpful at all.

O2 Store might be just swap it out. Could be worth calling your local store first and seeing what they'll do for you.

Bravo2zero_sps 18 January 2009 11:04 PM

I've got one of the Incase silicon jackets and a screen protector which has kept mine as new since release. However the silicon jacket has torn at the top recently where it is thinnest by the headphone socket and not happy its only lasted this long after being £20+

May have to get one of those Sena cases shown above.

Mogsi 19 January 2009 08:24 AM

I use on of these:

ZAGG | invisibleSHIELD | Apple iPhone 3G Cases, Screen Protectors, Covers, Shields, Skins, Invisible Shield

Not the easiest thing to fit but it does it's job, added bonus is it doesn't add any further bulk to the phone.. Picked mine up on Ebay.

Stefanie 19 January 2009 09:59 AM

getting a few sales people with Iphones, what security have admins been putting on them? We opted for blackberrys awhile ago against PDAs because of security but I think Iphones are in the same catagory as PDAs?

JackClark 19 January 2009 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by Stefanie (Post 8436490)
getting a few sales people with Iphones, what security have admins been putting on them? We opted for blackberrys awhile ago against PDAs because of security but I think Iphones are in the same catagory as PDAs?

More info here Apple - iPhone - Enterprise

Dream Weaver 19 January 2009 10:38 AM

Well I'm loving it so far :)

Slightly disappointed with email handling though - I would have thought that the inbox in Outlook would sync with the iPhone, so if I deleted or moved messages on the phone it would do the same in Outlook, but i'm having to do it all again in Outlook. :(

For some reason, I also can't use my Outlook until I turn mail off on the phone, which means I will have to do that every time I go out and then come back again - anyone know a solution to this?

JackClark 19 January 2009 10:49 AM

Who do you use for your email?

messiah 19 January 2009 10:58 AM

I use gmail with mine - brilliant that all my mail comes through and I can edit it either on the phone or the PC - or even on the iPhone's browser.

Can take a little setting up though - the default gmail option when setting up your mail account does bog all as you have to change some settings on your gmail account online before it'll work correctly. Hardly ever use my PC for emails now... :D

Bravo2zero_sps 19 January 2009 11:23 AM

It's about time they got is sorted for use with Hotmail. Can use Hotmail via the browser but it's very poor.

JackClark 19 January 2009 11:23 AM

I use Gmail and Google Apps for Domains. Enable IMAP in your Gmail settings and let the iPhone do the rest.

Dream Weaver 19 January 2009 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by JackClark (Post 8436581)
Who do you use for your email?

It's through Titan who I use for all business email/hosting etc.

It's just my business email address, as I don't bother with Gmail, Hotmail or anything else.

Bravo2zero_sps 19 January 2009 11:29 AM

Those that use Gmail how do you stop the spam? I set up two addresses ages back and never used them, never handed out the addresses to anyone but then checked them what was well over a year after creating them and there were thousands of spam emails on each account. It is for this reason I don't use gmail on my iphone, it would be buzzing with spam all day.

JackClark 19 January 2009 11:33 AM

Personally I would take steps to move your email to Google Apps for Domains. It's free and a magnitude better than what Titan can offer.

Take a look at Sign up for Google Apps

If you're interested and get stuck I offer a transfer service www.weconfig.com - We Config - Google Apps but you should be able to manage on your own.

JackClark 19 January 2009 11:35 AM

I don't see *any* spam in my Gmail inbox and it's incredibly rare that any of my messages get moved to the Spam bin. That's for four active accounts that are spread all over the internet and two of those were set up before the service was publicly available.

messiah 19 January 2009 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by ************** (Post 8436669)
Those that use Gmail how do you stop the spam? I set up two addresses ages back and never used them, never handed out the addresses to anyone but then checked them what was well over a year after creating them and there were thousands of spam emails on each account. It is for this reason I don't use gmail on my iphone, it would be buzzing with spam all day.

Do these go to your inbox or your spam filter though?

I find gmail quite good at filtering spam. the iPhone doesn't alert you if a new message is caught by the spam filter.

Bravo2zero_sps 19 January 2009 11:45 AM

I turned the spam filter on but then you have to worry that some valid emails have gone to spam as that still happens in Hotmail even though it's pretty good it still gets some wrong.

I'm holding out for Hotmail compatibility but will end up using Gmail if it doesn't happen this year.

Dream Weaver 19 January 2009 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by JackClark (Post 8436677)
Personally I would take steps to move your email to Google Apps for Domains. It's free and a magnitude better than what Titan can offer.

Take a look at Sign up for Google Apps

If you're interested and get stuck I offer a transfer service www.weconfig.com - We Config - Google Apps but you should be able to manage on your own.

I will have a look at that.

I have a workaround for now though. My mail server will only take a single connection, but with Push off on the iPhone both the phone and Outlook work OK, albeit it takes a few minutes after checking mail on the phone for Outlook to be able to do the same.

messiah 19 January 2009 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by ************** (Post 8436706)
I turned the spam filter on but then you have to worry that some valid emails have gone to spam as that still happens in Hotmail even though it's pretty good it still gets some wrong.

I'm holding out for Hotmail compatibility but will end up using Gmail if it doesn't happen this year.

I'm sure I heard someone mention hotmail was now on the iPhone, as someelse said that Messenger couldn't be too far behind it...

...could be mistaken though!

boxst 19 January 2009 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by messiah (Post 8436832)
as someelse said that Messenger couldn't be too far behind it...

...could be mistaken though!

Unless Apple change their policy (which they might), it isn't allowed for programs to run in the background. So you'd have to have MSN (or a messenger program) open all the time in order to send and receive messages.

I want to run it as a background task and be notified when I get a message.

Steve

Markus 19 January 2009 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by ************** (Post 8436706)
I turned the spam filter on but then you have to worry that some valid emails have gone to spam as that still happens in Hotmail even though it's pretty good it still gets some wrong.

I'm holding out for Hotmail compatibility but will end up using Gmail if it doesn't happen this year.

I'd say that Gmail's spam filter is far better than Hotmail's. I've had a couple of emails end up in Gmail's spam folder, this is out of hundreds if not thousands of emails. I see more spam in my hotmail inbox than in it's junk box most of the time. Alas no spam solution is perfect. I run spamsieve on my machine and it will pick up non-spam as spam, so I still check my junk box to make sure I'm not missing something. Yes it's a pain, but what can you do :D

When you talk about Hotmail support on the iPhone, are you talking about accessing it via browser and that it's not working correctly, or are you talking about setting up mail.app on the iPhone to connect to your Hotmail account. If it's the latter then the problem is that unless you have a paid subscription, POP access to Hotmail won't work, regardless of what platform or email package you are using. Having said that you could have a read of this, which mentions using IzyMail, which provides POP/IMAP access to Windows Live servers. It's not free though, but is probably cheaper than a paid subscription to MS.

Bravo2zero_sps 19 January 2009 01:53 PM

On my iphone I can browse to hotmail on the web and check my email but its painfully slow and basic, it's not the full web page you get on a pc's web browser. All 3 of my hotmail accounts are free to use with Outlook. Two are using http in Outlook and the other is using the Outlook mapi connector for hotmail. So if I pay for pop/imap with my hotmail then I can use it fine on the iphone? Seen the izymail link before when googling for hotmail solutions but not paying a 3rd party for a solution. Either Microsoft or Apple or both come up with a solution.


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