Started another thread due to my original post disappearing from the top of the other one... (SDB - methinks there is a bug somewhere...)


Following on from the very successful Jordan karting day yesterday, I'm wondering whether it is worth trying to arrange a Karting session at Daytona in Milton Keynes.

If there seems to be sufficient interest, I'll volunteer to organise it.

To give people an idea of scale/cost we would probably be looking at:

i) Saturday or Sunday morning or afternoon
ii) Need a MINIMUM of 20 teams, 3-6 drivers per team, cost of £230 per team (so between £77 and £39 per person)
iii) 3 hour endurance event with 30mins practice
iv) Nice big, long (1.3km) circuit with fast (390cc) karts.

I’ll give this thread a week or so to gauge the level of interest, but as I don't want to be left covering a HUGE bill, I'm only going to do it if there is a LOT of interest (preferably over 100 serious names)

Please respond either on this thread, or to my e-mail address (david@harbige.net).

David H.

Possible Teams So Far:

(Please Note: This is just to get an idea, and there is no commitment as yet.)

Team Number.....Team Leader (!).........Team Name
1.........................dharbige................ ..???
2.........................Bitten Hero...............???
3.........................The Blade.................???
4.........................SIBBO (1).................???
5.........................SIBBO (2).................???
6.........................Elvis Presley.............???
7.........................Dave T-S..................???
8.........................Tracey (1)................???
9.........................Tracey (2)................???
10......................Tracey (3)................???
11......................Gizmo555 (1)..............???
12......................Gizmo555 (2)..............???
13......................P1Fanatic................. ???


Individual Drivers So Far:
Hoppy
Another Hoppy (Hoppy Junior?)
Floyd
Scoob99
Scoob99's Eldest Son
Scoob99's Younger Son (depending on age limit) - I'll check
Josh L

Dave, the BBS bug strikes if you edit any post 8 times - it comes up with server error on the 8th edit and it then vanishes... beware! :)

Richard

So it's a known bug, then. Just mailed SDB about it.

I'll just have to update the teams less regularly. :)

David H.

Just reply and only list the team details etc. That way it also bumps the post BTTT (like this one) :)

Simon.

Thanks for the advice, guys.
Just need some more interested parties now.

Let me know when we have enough people. Remember, I can probably supply a couple of teams if needed.

If we are short I can always email around work - could probably rustle up 2-3 more teams if needed.

Edited to say teams as opposed to people!

[Edited by P1Fanatic - 2/20/2002 11:20:16 AM]

I spoke to Dave T-S last night, and I'm sure he'd be up for it. Dave?????

If you could give us a rough idea of a date, then I'm sure it would help, and I could then bully a couple of friends into joining us.

Josh

PS My Prodrive Live CD thread suffered the same fate at your thread. Deffinately best just to post instead of edit.

I think Bitten is correct about 16th/17th being too short notice to get it all arranged.

Therefore, based on the feedback so far, and current availability of the circuit, two VERY provisional dates are either 14th April, or 28th April.

If I book the circuit, I am personally liable for the minimum race fees (£4600 :eek:) and there has not been enough interest generated yet for me to accept this risk. I need another 10 'possible' teams before its worth starting to make more concrete arrangements.

David H.

Dave - if you come up with a date then ask for £10 deposit per team/driver so you have an idea of numbers (committed enough to fork up some dosh). When Ive organised one in the past they usually ask for a deposit by X date to confirm your booking and the rest later on. That way if you dont get enough we just lose the small deposit or we pay more per driver - cant see any way they can charge you the full amount unless they are cowboys.

I would just pick a date now - whichever one you pick some people wont be able to make so it makes no difference. I cant make the 28th cos I fly to Florida on the 19th but if I miss it is tough **** - there will always be another one around the corner judging by the interest the last one by Bitten Hero generated.

Simon.

Simon,

Daytona are very strict, probably due to the popularity of their facilities. I don't think they are cowboys - but they do run one of the best tracks in the country.

They want a 50% deposit within seven days of making a reservation. This is non-returnable.
45 days before the event, the full race fees for the minimum required number of teams is contractually payable, i.e. if the event is cancelled, you still have to pay the whole amount.

So basically, once I've chosen a date, I need to be pretty certain that enough teams are going to turn up (at least 20).
To be sure of this, I'm probably going to ask each Team Leader to pay in full, up front, for their entire team. I'll have a week from reserving the date to paying the deposit and becoming legally bound to the date, and I'll have to get enough payed up teams in this time to ensure I'm not exposing myself too much.
I am willing to put in a lot of time to organise this event, but I am NOT going to put myself in a situation where I am personally liable for £4.5K, without being very sure that everybody is going to show.
If people aren't prepared to commit themselves fully enough to pay up front, then I'm not going to commit myself on their behalf.

I hope everybody agrees that this is the right way to proceed.

David H.

Im fine with that - sounds like a plan as you have delegated the team leaders to making sure they get the cash from their co-members. As soon as I know the date and can make it I will pay our teams fee. Online transfer would be easiest I guess.

What does the the £230 per team include? Food, trophies etc?

Simon.

AFAIK, it's just for the racing.

I'd be suprised if it didn't include some sort of naff trophies, but it doesn't say so in the blurb.
It DOESN'T include any food. They can provide food, but it doesn't appear to be that cheap - £7.50/head for "Snack Platter", £14/head for buffer with small selection up to £19/head for buffet with large selection.

Personally, I'd rather find a decent pub!

David H.

P.S. Of the two dates mentioned, does anybody have any preferences?

You get little trophies and a bottle of fizz (if you're good enough) but no food. There's a little snack shop thingy on-site that does chocolate bars, coffee/tea, sausage rolls and even a few sarnies sometimes. But there's also pubs and shops not far away too.

Great venue :)

Richard

14th suits me fine (my birthday the next day so youd better let me win).

Team Weave will be there....
28th would be preferably but we can do the 14th.

Cheers



Jeff
PS: Dave, is this a rematch for not winning ?

[Edited by Jeff Wiltshire - 2/20/2002 6:39:34 PM]

Jeff,

Definately not! We'll probably be entering an office team, and Bob is the only experienced driver. Everybody else has done it once or twice, but I'd be aiming for a top 10 finish.

Will be glad to have Team Weave along.

David H.

Dave

Just thought there might be a little needle
Cheers for arranging this (if it goes ahead)

My turn to do one at Buckmore Park next ...

Jeff

[Edited by Jeff Wiltshire - 2/20/2002 9:05:27 PM]

Possible Teams So Far:

Most likely date is 14th April

(Please Note: This is just to get an idea, and there is no commitment as yet.)

Team Number.....Team Leader (!).........Team Name
1.........................dharbige................ ..???
2.........................Bitten Hero...............???
3.........................The Blade.................???
4.........................SIBBO (1).................???
5.........................SIBBO (2).................???
6.........................Elvis Presley.............???
7.........................Dave T-S..................???
8.........................Tracey (1)................???
9.........................Tracey (2)................???
10......................Tracey (3)................???
11......................Gizmo555 (1)..............???
12......................Gizmo555 (2)..............???
13......................P1Fanatic................. ???
14......................Jeff Wiltshire.........Team Weave


Individual Drivers So Far:
Hoppy
Another Hoppy (Hoppy Junior?)
Floyd
Scoob99
Scoob99's Eldest Son
Scoob99's Younger Son (depending on age limit) - I'll check
Josh L


Only 15/16 teams so far - come on people, put your names down!!

[Edited to add possible teams so far]

So no Arkansas Chugga Bug team then?

F

Comeon guys (and gals) :D lets get the numbers up to the 20 so we can have some fun.....!


Jeff

[Edited by Jeff Wiltshire - 2/21/2002 3:27:42 PM]

[Edited by Jeff Wiltshire - 2/21/2002 3:47:07 PM]

BTTT.

I can probably get two teams rather than one, as I can probably get 6 Jordan guys to come along and win again :D

Richard

Richard

As long as your guys have 50 Kilos of lead and/or are old enough to drink :D

Jeff

Ah he didnt bring 8 stone anorexic teenagers from a taiwanese football shirt factory did he?

Can we not add penalty weights to drivers cars up to 14 stone (as after that you got no excuse for being a chunk). Man my mate is 6ft 8 and still only 11stone LOL!

:)

They won.....

I think they should have to have 2 drivers in the kart at the same time...just to make it fair :)

Jeff

Ah, you're just jealous cos you 'only' came second :) Anyway, they're not that tiny - Hoppy Junior was the smallest/lightest there on the day!

:)

Richard

I've been sulking all week......:)

I asked the guy on the top step of the rostrum if he was old enough to drive :D He didn't answer just looked at me in a sort of 'old person alert' way...he's probable never heard of Jimi Hendrick..and thinks Blue/Ear' say/etc are the height of musical taste...sniff...I'm getting old...

Jeff

Richard,

Dunno what you're being so smug about - I hear you were chucked out of your own team (aka the Bitten Heroes) for being too fat, too old and too slow. :):)

Not that I would propagate such shameless gossip! :)

David H.

[Edited 'cause I can't remember how to get the smiley to stick its tongue out]

[Edited by dharbige - 2/22/2002 9:24:19 AM]

[Edited by dharbige - 2/22/2002 9:25:02 AM]

Thats a point....How many laps did Richard do for 'his' team ....??:cool:

[Edited by Jeff Wiltshire - 2/22/2002 10:49:10 AM]