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Connor_scotland 29 December 2008 08:36 AM

Help please - Frozen Impreza
 
Right

My Impreza Sport was frozen this morning

Well my gf had it she started it an it was making a squeeling noise an she phoned me (car was running for under 1 min) i told her to turn it off.

I then nipped home from work to check the car

1 - The garage that did the thermostat an coolant change only filled the car with water so ALL pipes,radiator are frozen an also the water in these pipes etc

What damage could this of done. She said the temp gauge stayed on cold

Most important i went to crank the car over an it WONT start

Im assuming because its so frozen so im going to leave it until i get home at lunch an have a proper look.

1 - What damage could this of caused
2 - Hmmmmmmmm

StickyMicky 29 December 2008 08:40 AM

:eek:

you can crack the blocks by not having coolant in the waterways

:eek:

scoobymods 29 December 2008 08:41 AM

check the cam belt as if the water pump was frozen the belt would snap !!

Connor_scotland 29 December 2008 08:43 AM

nah all belts are on an still sturdy

I sqeezed the top pipe an it was thawing out a bit was hard slush

The *******s. Im going down at 12 to have words with them an if they start there **** im willing to hand out slaps for free

Underworld 29 December 2008 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by Connor_scotland (Post 8379173)
The *******s. Im going down at 12 to have words with them an if they start there **** im willing to hand out slaps for free

just for your info, its Buy One Get One Free fashion going on these days:thumb: :thumb:

Connor_scotland 29 December 2008 08:47 AM

Awesome. I can't bileave they never put coolant in it tho.

Unless the coolant can freeze.

Nop belts snapped so i suppose thats a good thing but i wonder what the squeeling was

Underworld 29 December 2008 08:50 AM

try put warm water in

Connor_scotland 29 December 2008 08:56 AM

yea will head home after i have been to the garage.

Any ideas to why it wouldnt fire up again. I just cranked it over a few times to see if it would????

Carl2 29 December 2008 08:59 AM

Maybe the cambelt has snapped.

Connor_scotland 29 December 2008 08:59 AM

nah all the belts are intact mate

f1_fan 29 December 2008 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by Connor_scotland (Post 8379193)
nah all the belts are intact mate

The cam belt is housed behind the covers at the front of the engine so you won't be able to see it. If it has snapped which is possible I would go no further and let a garage/specialist take a look as you could end up doing even more damage.

Connor_scotland 29 December 2008 09:25 AM

The covers are off it mate

I took them off the other day :-) to replace them as one is buggered an never put it back on yet lol

f1_fan 29 December 2008 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by Connor_scotland (Post 8379233)
The covers are off it mate

I took them off the other day :-) to replace them as one is buggered an never put it back on yet lol

No worries then. :)

Connor_scotland 29 December 2008 09:31 AM

When you mentioned that i thought. Hmm wonder is there another belt somewhere i havent seen lol

Yea as i said all belts are intact so there is hope yet.

Next thing is going to be defrosting the radiator. Whats the best way. Pour boiling water over it or.......

The car is at my house so i cant take it to teh barn as its 10 miles away

Mrfastbaz 29 December 2008 09:39 AM

you gotta thaw the engine and pipes out slowly,,,, a fan heater aimed under the engine and radiator would be good i had the same thing happen to me years ago on a mark 3 2000e cortina had to leave it in the garage with a small parafin lamp under the engine to thaw it out took 2 days luckiny there was no damage take it slowly put it in a garage if you can and leave the bonnet down to keep the heat in but only put the heater on low, a slow thaw is the way to do it good luck

Connor_scotland 29 December 2008 10:11 AM

I cant get a heater out to it mate just where it is at my house.

Only thing i can think of is "warm" water an not boiling water

Thaw it out that way if its damaged im just going ahead with the turbo conversion as i have my brothers car at the mo

The mighty 306 dturbo

3 door in black
lowered on coilovers
anthracite 205 1.9 gti alloys with goodyears all round
Uprated turbo as the other one blew due to high boost
New head gasket as the other one went lol
Boost cranked right up to pretty much breaking point lol
Injectors from a mercedes van - Cant mind the model
Xantia intercooler
New bosch uprated diesel pump
straight through stainless steel exhaust
Boost gauge
dump valve
uprated clutch
short shift
OMP steering wheel an boss
poly bushed all round

Luke 29 December 2008 10:18 AM

as advised by others. you NEED to 1st get in contact with garage. and then ask them what they wish you to do as you hold them responsible . you doing a sudden heat change could do more damage and they might say "hard luck". metal and seals etc do funny things when they change temp quickly

Connor_scotland 29 December 2008 10:27 AM

Cheers Luke. . To be honest they are really sound, I called them about 10mins ago an spoke to the owner (its a garage i have been using for years) they said to leave it until the afternoon an see if its thaw'd an then theyw ill send someone up when im up there at lunch.

I wast ratty with them on the phone but whats the point it wont get me anywhere. They pretty much said "our bad" which is cool

cossie-nutter 29 December 2008 10:29 AM

Might of smashed the water pump to pieces! Fingers crossed it hasn't though and as for the garage I would go spastic at them!

Connor_scotland 29 December 2008 10:30 AM

How would i know if the waterpump is buggered

Prasius 29 December 2008 10:35 AM

It would have taken everything for me not to have been down there at opening windmilling at their utter ineptitude.

I'm impressed at your self-control! I hope whatever work-experience boy who did your car gets a kicking. :)

Connor_scotland 29 December 2008 10:39 AM

lol i have no self control usually i have a **** temper aswell.

Just dont see the point in going mental at them i know they messed up but they WILL fix it :-)

I get on with the owner really well so i cant see there been any issues

cossie-nutter 29 December 2008 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by Connor_scotland (Post 8379371)
How would i know if the waterpump is buggered

If its making funny noises or if when defrosted the temp goes up and you cant see the water going through the header tank like it should (Ie flowing through!)

Connor_scotland 29 December 2008 10:45 AM

Cheers Cossie. Will get a proper look today

cossie-nutter 29 December 2008 10:50 AM

I would also advise a total flush through as many pipes as you can off and shove the hose pipe where you can. As if the pump has broke up little parts may block the system up and you don't want that. I wouldn't go back to the garage IMHO unless you have to as doing it your self at least you know it would be done right! Pity you wasn't closer or I would lend a hand and donate some hard core Antifreeze!

Connor_scotland 29 December 2008 11:54 AM

Right

I got the semi warm kettle out used it to warm the pipes up. Left it a while an all had turned back to water from what i could see.

My brother got off work an came round with some anti freeze from his work :-) refilled it an the car started first time an heated up to normal operating temp. Fan came on when it should

I moved the car as i want to see if i have any cracked pipes or anything.

How would i know if i had an air lock in the system

Rossco_ 29 December 2008 12:31 PM

If you have an airlock it will overheat. IE- temp will go through the roof

Connor_scotland 29 December 2008 12:43 PM

How do you get rid of an airlock as i took the hose off to drain the system

minisize 29 December 2008 01:03 PM

i changed the radiator on my old one, it had an air lock n i just squezzed the bottom hose, with the radiator cap off, to get out as much air as i could then topped it up with water/anti freeze.
i had to repeat this a couple of times after running the car.
just keep an eye on the temp.
don't know if this is the recomended way but it worked for me.

Connor_scotland 29 December 2008 01:15 PM

cool will do that tonight then


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