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Mystik Journeyman 24 October 2008 03:11 PM

Upgrade My Brakes?
 
After conversing with a seller on here I've decided it might be a good idea to upgrade my brakes but I don't really know much about which are good and which aren't.

I'll start by showing you what I have currently - a MY99 WRX Wagon with 17" Newage wheels and...

Front discs (Black Diamond Combis, I believe)

http://cspotinfo.greenether.com/wrx/front_disc.jpg

Front caliper (EBC Yellow Stuff pads)

http://cspotinfo.greenether.com/wrx/front_caliper.jpg

Rear

http://cspotinfo.greenether.com/wrx/rear.jpg

The seller on here had/has the Prodrive/Alcon 330 mm 4-pot brakes for £600. He said the discs were brand new.

So what I'd like to know is the following:
  1. Is there any issue with buying second-hand brakes aside from warped discs or sticking pistons?
  2. Is the Prodrive kit a worthwhile upgrade for the money or is there one (either cheaper or more expensive) that's better value for money?
  3. Upgrading the rears - are there special discs/calipers for the rear or can fronts be used?
I suppose the use would be classed as 'fast road' but there's a good chance track days may be undertaken too (I spent an hour or so on a track and thought it was simply smashing!).

Thanks in advance for your assistance.

MrNoisy 24 October 2008 03:33 PM

Not sure if the 330mm items will clear the wheels you've got mate from other posts I've seen on here.

Might also be worth having a look at K-Sports - they get pretty good reviews and would probably give the Prodrive stuff a run for its money; not sure how costly they are but I think they're around this bracket?

New_scooby_04 24 October 2008 04:07 PM

One thing to bare in mind with the Prodrive Alcon kit is that the replacement discs are, by all accounts, very expensive.

It is regarded as a very good kit though. If its in good order then that is probably a fair price.

There is a Brembo set ups with PF discs and pads available in the for sale section for similar money. Might suit your needs as well?

Ns04

Mother Theresa 24 October 2008 05:09 PM

I've had four different set ups on my car including the original items and the K-sport stuff is much better than the Brembos, even with clever pads and discs in them. Buy it right 1st time (unlike me) and save yourself agro and more money later.

cster 24 October 2008 10:52 PM


Originally Posted by Mother Theresa (Post 8220615)
I've had four different set ups on my car including the original items and the K-sport stuff is much better than the Brembos, even with clever pads and discs in them. Buy it right 1st time (unlike me) and save yourself agro and more money later.

Have you tried the PF discs and pads for the Brembo.
If so, what did you think?

Mystik Journeyman 26 October 2008 09:02 PM

Cheers, guys.

Can anyone answer my question about the rears?

Mother Theresa 26 October 2008 10:06 PM

I used DS3000 -i.e. racing pads and the they still got completely cooked. Ruined is actually the correct adjective. I use PF pads on the rears. They never get hot enough to do anything on road use but you can feel them doing their stuff on track.

mickywrx 26 October 2008 10:41 PM

Are they WRX or STI wheels? If WRX, forget Brembo's for the time being, your wheels won't clear them.

They look like 2 pot's on what I assume is the front, what about 4 pots with the godspeed kit?

Mystik Journeyman 26 October 2008 11:35 PM


Originally Posted by mickywrx (Post 8225225)
Are they WRX or STI wheels? If WRX, forget Brembo's for the time being, your wheels won't clear them.

They look like 2 pot's on what I assume is the front, what about 4 pots with the godspeed kit?

I don't know - I'd budgeted for new alloys when I bought the car but I liked these ones that were already fitted enough to not be able to justify spending a grand on new rims. I think they're from a Newage model but how would I tell which one?

mickywrx 27 October 2008 12:10 AM

These are STI7 wheels on my mates car;

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ditedsmall.jpg

Hard to tell what difference there is.

Mystik Journeyman 27 October 2008 12:28 AM


Originally Posted by mickywrx (Post 8225390)
...Hard to tell what difference there is.

According to https://www.scoobynet.com/private-sa...s-classic.html, they look like STi wheels (unless something not visible is different).

bob r 27 October 2008 01:02 AM

To the op.

It looks like you have newage STI alloys indicated by the 2x indentations between the spokes rather than the WRX one's.

joz8968 27 October 2008 01:17 AM


Originally Posted by bob r (Post 8225426)
To the op.

It looks like you have newage STI alloys indicated by the 2x indentations between the spokes rather than the WRX one's.

Yep they're defo STi ones as the spokes also splay out more where they meet the rim.

See here to see how the WRX one's differ...
https://www.scoobynet.com/scooby.php...&photoid=15265

Mystik Journeyman 27 October 2008 10:13 AM

Ah yes - they're quite different when you see them compared.

Thanks, fellas.

Any more recommendations?

New_scooby_04 27 October 2008 12:39 PM

Personally I'd just get APs, but they will cost you quite a bit more.

It's what I'm going to be doing as soon with my MY99 as I've saved a few more pennies! Unfortunately I'm still on 16inch rims so will have to be content with a 304mm 4 pot kit, but I'm reliably informed that is more than sufficient for a classic! :)

Ns04

rossi_p 27 October 2008 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by New_scooby_04 (Post 8225997)
Personally I'd just get APs, but they will cost you quite a bit more.

It's what I'm going to be doing as soon with my MY99 as I've saved a few more pennies! Unfortunately I'm still on 16inch rims so will have to be content with a 304mm 4 pot kit, but I'm reliably informed that is more than sufficient for a classic! :)

Ns04

I'd second the above verdict but they are expensive! >£1800!! :eek:

I will be going for AP six pots after putting a little money away but with the Godspeed two piece discs to bring the price down. At least then you have the hardware in place.

Re the rear discs - I believe you need actual rear discs rather than just using the fronts. I think this is due to the handbrake setup although someone on here should know for certain.


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