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Rich_wrex 02 September 2008 09:03 PM

foglights and sidelight prob
 
Hello all,
got a problem when i turn my fog lamps on the side lights come aswel bit of a problem as it wont go through the mot like this:freak3:

anyone have any ideas about where to start looking to see if someone has wired it like that.

Cheers

Rich

alcazar 03 September 2008 10:25 AM

Front fogs, or rear, or both?

AFAIK, the FOGS should be wired so that THEY won't come on without sidelights?

Maybe activating fogs, therefore, HAS to activate sides?

Alcazar

Rich_wrex 03 September 2008 02:01 PM

front fogs im on about,

doesnt have a rear fog thats the prob, so im wondering how it got through the last MOT,

have pulled the dash apart and the fog switch seems to be wired ok,

anybody else any ideas where to look?

joey_turbo 03 September 2008 02:36 PM

Even so, that is the correct procedure. You cannot have your front or rear fogs on without sidelights. An MOT tester should know this.

alcazar 03 September 2008 04:24 PM

FRONT fogs aren't tested on the MoT AFAIK, since they are not mandatory.

So long as your side lights don't immediately bring them on, you're OK. If they do, just remove the fuse/bulbs/wiring connectors to the fogs.

Alcazar

Rich_wrex 03 September 2008 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by joey_turbo (Post 8107029)
Even so, that is the correct procedure. You cannot have your front or rear fogs on without sidelights. An MOT tester should know this.

i see now so everything is correct then all i need to do is put a red bulb in the reverse light position and wire it up and im away.


Originally Posted by alcazar (Post 8107278)
FRONT fogs aren't tested on the MoT AFAIK, since they are not mandatory.

So long as your side lights don't immediately bring them on, you're OK. If they do, just remove the fuse/bulbs/wiring connectors to the fogs.

Alcazar

Strange they tested my front ones,

the sidelights come on when i turn the fogs on, which is correct i believe, MOT tester said he thought there was a wiring problem thats what got me looking.

cheers for the help

p.s anybody know how i should rewire the reversing light to become a fog?

psigeek 03 September 2008 08:20 PM


Originally Posted by Rich_wrex (Post 8107721)
i see now so everything is correct then all i need to do is put a red bulb in the reverse light position and wire it up and im away.



Strange they tested my front ones,

the sidelights come on when i turn the fogs on, which is correct i believe, MOT tester said he thought there was a wiring problem thats what got me looking.

cheers for the help

p.s anybody know how i should rewire the reversing light to become a fog?

What part of the country are you in mate? I have had EXACTLY the same prob as you only 4 months ago. I got someone to wire a reverse light into a fog in the end. Cost me £30. If you're in Kent or nearby I can point you in the right direction. Oh and I had to have a dedicated, rear fog only, switch to make it work.

Rich_wrex 03 September 2008 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by psigeek (Post 8107846)
What part of the country are you in mate? I have had EXACTLY the same prob as you only 4 months ago. I got someone to wire a reverse light into a fog in the end. Cost me £30. If you're in Kent or nearby I can point you in the right direction. Oh and I had to have a dedicated, rear fog only, switch to make it work.

cheers for the help mate but im up north near manchester, i'll have to try and find another fog switch from the for sale section or something and then get it wired up somehow.

psigeek 03 September 2008 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by Rich_wrex (Post 8107881)
cheers for the help mate but im up north near manchester, i'll have to try and find another fog switch from the for sale section or something and then get it wired up somehow.

The route I took was (after buying a bolt on fog light :cry: but then didn't have to fit :) ) to go to the local import garage and ask them who preps their cars when they come off the boat from Japan. They'll have a dedicated garage for their work - speedo conversion, fuel filler restrictor, rear fog installation, etc. The one near me gladly gave me the number and later that afternoon I was fixed with foglight in place of reverse light. If you need the number of the guy who done mine, for advice etc, PM me. He may even know someone oop North for ya.

psigeek 03 September 2008 08:41 PM


Originally Posted by Rich_wrex (Post 8106951)
doesnt have a rear fog thats the prob, so im wondering how it got through the last MOT,

Again the same, and it turned out the wiring for one existed, but somebody had chopped the light off :lol1:

MrNoisy 03 September 2008 09:19 PM

On my new age, the front fogs won't come on without the sidelights being activated.

The rear fog won't come on without dipped headlamps being activated.

Whether this is required for the vehicle to be legal I don't know - just thought it might help.

Rich_wrex 04 September 2008 09:40 AM

Managed to source a rear fog switch but im having trouble finding a uk rear light cluster anybody know where i might be able to get one from.

alcazar 04 September 2008 10:20 AM

Try GradeA at Hayfield in the High Peak.

Alcazar

MrNoisy 04 September 2008 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by Rich_wrex (Post 8108706)
Managed to source a rear fog switch but im having trouble finding a uk rear light cluster anybody know where i might be able to get one from.

Failing GradeA, you can also go to Jap Performance Parts : Home :thumb:

Rich_wrex 10 September 2008 07:28 PM

Cheers for all your help everbody:thumb: ,

Managaed to source a uk rear foglight switch and a uk rear cluster with an internal foglight,

just wondering if anybody knows will my car have the wiring already there to install them as is or will i have to salvage part of a wiring harnes from somewhere or what:confused:

thankyou

rich

Rich_wrex 11 September 2008 01:51 PM

btt

psigeek 12 September 2008 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by Rich_wrex (Post 8123530)
Cheers for all your help everbody:thumb: ,

Managaed to source a uk rear foglight switch and a uk rear cluster with an internal foglight,

just wondering if anybody knows will my car have the wiring already there to install them as is or will i have to salvage part of a wiring harnes from somewhere or what:confused:

thankyou

rich

If it's an import then the wiring and fog should have been installed at SVA time. If someone has just removed the fog light then you should be able to find the wiring in the boot somewhere. You'll probably need the help of a mulitmeter and friend to push the switches while you measure the readings.

If the wiring isn't there for whatever reason it is not a huge job. You'll just need to run a wire (small thickness) from the switch to the back and solder it on. You can use one of the many grounding points in the back. The only time I can think that you'll need a wiring harness is if you need it to come on with the rear lights. There are plenty of auto electricians to do the job.


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