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martyrobertsdj 09 August 2008 09:40 AM

www.webuyanycar.com
 
I bet you do too if you can get them for the prices in the valuations you give!! :mad:

2004 (MY05) 54 plate Impreza STI Type UK, Crystal Grey, mint condition, 28K miles FSH.

How much??

£8000

Get F*cked!!!

You won't be getting a "testimonial" from me on how you gave "a great valuation" and how your service was "superb" and "fantastic". :hjtwofing

Blueblaster 09 August 2008 09:55 AM

I've said it before and I'll say it again. £8000 is about 35% of the original price which, for a 3-4yr old car, is about right. This is especially true when, with respect, you are talking about a car that was heavily discounted, oversold with umpteen special editions and is about as expensive to run as any comparable car bar an Evo. Were you expecting nearer £10-11k? How is the dealer going to make any money if he gives you that much? Add on the cost of preparation, a warranty, lost interest on the capital and some profit and you're looking at £12-13k minimum. Who in their right mind is going to spend that kind of money on that car at the moment?

Cars depreciate. If they weren't so much fun they would be a TOTAL WASTE OF MONEY! Get used to it. :(

GC8 09 August 2008 10:03 AM

There are still new old shape WRXs for sale and there around the £10,000 mark. £8,000 is good, in light of that...

Scooby Soon! 09 August 2008 10:04 AM

if you making a cash sale (they are purchasing directly from you and you are buying nothing) to be honest that sounds about right. How much would it go for privatly?

Brun 09 August 2008 10:09 AM

Just put my car in.
Lotus Elise S 57 Plate, 8k miles. £28k new in November last year and they will give me £14.5k :lol:

dunx 09 August 2008 10:20 AM

A tidy 2002 bug-eye STI will be priced at around £10K at a dealer....

Simple maths, stealer needs a profit too !

DunxC

d5hof 09 August 2008 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by dunx (Post 8058220)
A tidy 2002 bug-eye STI will be priced at around £10K at a dealer....

DunxC

not in this market :nono:

st33ly 09 August 2008 02:01 PM

03 plate sti PPP with 37k miles full subaru hx mint for year. 7155! What a joke!!!!!!

GC8 09 August 2008 02:08 PM

Loving your car doesnt make it depreciation proof!

Further to that, it is extremely naive to expect a higher trade valuation from a firm who undertakes to buy any car. They will offer a lower price, which offsets this: obvious, surely? If you are happy to take their offer for an easy quick sale then take it, but its foolish to complain that the offer doesnt suit you: if Imprezas were selling (or even wanted, which they dont seem to be), then you wouldnt be looking at their offer in the first place...

LUCKO 09 August 2008 02:34 PM

Jokers

1993 Impreza Wrx, Genuine Set Of Lexus Lights And Always Run On V-Power

Its Worth More Than £9.25




:D

martyrobertsdj 09 August 2008 03:15 PM

I wasn't complaining that the offer didn't "suit" me, I was merely showing the kind of offers these places make. I spotted a link on a website and put my car into their online valuation tool out of curiosity. I expected a low price......after all......any dealer just goes for Glass's Guide bottom book, regardless of the car's individual merits.

But a low price is one thing and £8000 is another. I'm obviously the same as anyone that would be selling or part-exchanging a car.....we want the best price we can get for our motors, and botom book price just doesn't cut the mustard.

Preparation?? What's that then?? A valet...the car is mint?? Servicing....the car is fully serviced and a second hand dealer wouldn't do an "extra" service in between the manufacturers recommended ones......it would cost them money.

As for a warranty......the car is still covered by Subaru as it is an Approved Used car, so that cost is out of the equation. Anyway...you show me a second hand car dealer that doesn't offer a warranty as an "extra".....they all ask hundreds of pounds for warranties that very often aren't worth any more than the second hand bit of toilet paper that most of them could be written on.

They even cash in the fookin road tax and then charge the buyers for that too!!

Face it.......most second hand car dealers are tw*ts....even the ones on here..........end of ;) :razz:

chocolate_o_brian 09 August 2008 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by martyrobertsdj (Post 8058678)
I wasn't complaining that the offer didn't "suit" me, I was merely showing the kind of offers these places make. I spotted a link on a website and put my car into their online valuation tool out of curiosity. I expected a low price......after all......any dealer just goes for Glass's Guide bottom book, regardless of the car's individual merits.

But a low price is one thing and £8000 is another. I'm obviously the same as anyone that would be selling or part-exchanging a car.....we want the best price we can get for our motors, and botom book price just doesn't cut the mustard.

Preparation?? What's that then?? A valet...the car is mint?? Servicing....the car is fully serviced and a second hand dealer wouldn't do an "extra" service in between the manufacturers recommended ones......it would cost them money.

As for a warranty......the car is still covered by Subaru as it is an Approved Used car, so that cost is out of the equation. Anyway...you show me a second hand car dealer that doesn't offer a warranty as an "extra".....they all ask hundreds of pounds for warranties that very often aren't worth any more than the second hand bit of toilet paper that most of them could be written on.

They even cash in the fookin road tax and then charge the buyers for that too!!

Face it.......most second hand car dealers are tw*ts....even the ones on here..........end of ;) :razz:

im sorry mate, but "ten of the best" is already done:thumb:

GC8 09 August 2008 03:36 PM

Had I been criticising you directly, then Id have quoted you. As I have said before, there are NEW 07 WRX saloons being offered still, for £10,000. Can your four year old car really be worth anything like as much. You need to place a realistic quick sale valuation on your four year old over-supplied low-demand vehicle.

TheVoices 09 August 2008 04:12 PM

Glasses Guide is just that 'a guide', at the moment it is a very rare car that is even worth bottom book.

I have a customer wanting to trade in his 2006 997 Carrera 2 coupe, mint UK car, 14k miles, good colour combi with desirable nav and phone. Glasses trade is £43k, best bid anywhere in the country from main dealers and independants (including the main dealer that he paid £57k 12 months ago) is £37k, best offer last month was £40k against book price of £44750 ! You know the used market is on its a**e when 911's are behind book !

When you can buy a new EU WRX for £15k, the used values are bound to take a hit. I find that some Subaru and Evo owners have the same mindset as MX5 owners had 5-10 yrs ago, ie. used to their cars retaining loads of the purchase price and think that is the norm. When things like cheaper imports or drop in the popularity of their car as a second hand buy make values drop like a stone they often struggle to accept the reality.

The reality is that if a car holds 40% of its new value at 3 years old you have done very well !

As another example, one of our Mercedes dealers sold a 57k Blobeye STi UK this week for £6800 as a retail deal, they had paid £5500 for it by the way.

Blueblaster 09 August 2008 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by martyrobertsdj (Post 8058678)
I wasn't complaining that the offer didn't "suit" me, I was merely showing the kind of offers these places make. I spotted a link on a website and put my car into their online valuation tool out of curiosity. I expected a low price......after all......any dealer just goes for Glass's Guide bottom book, regardless of the car's individual merits.

But a low price is one thing and £8000 is another. I'm obviously the same as anyone that would be selling or part-exchanging a car.....we want the best price we can get for our motors, and botom book price just doesn't cut the mustard.

Preparation?? What's that then?? A valet...the car is mint?? Servicing....the car is fully serviced and a second hand dealer wouldn't do an "extra" service in between the manufacturers recommended ones......it would cost them money.

As for a warranty......the car is still covered by Subaru as it is an Approved Used car, so that cost is out of the equation. Anyway...you show me a second hand car dealer that doesn't offer a warranty as an "extra".....they all ask hundreds of pounds for warranties that very often aren't worth any more than the second hand bit of toilet paper that most of them could be written on.

They even cash in the fookin road tax and then charge the buyers for that too!!

Face it.......most second hand car dealers are tw*ts....even the ones on here..........end of ;) :razz:


What did you think your car is worth then?

BIG FUD 09 August 2008 04:38 PM

Original Price £25,977
Franchised Dealer £13,775
Independent Dealer £13,120
Private Good £12,465
Private Poor £10,480
Part Exchange £11,290

8k is a pure piss take, Say yes wait to ya do the deal then say no right at the end see how they like being taken for a prick....

I would say £10 500 is fair for that car in todays market....

Ian E 09 August 2008 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by GC8 (Post 8058713)
Had I been criticising you directly, then Id have quoted you. As I have said before, there are NEW 07 WRX saloons being offered still, for £10,000. Can your four year old car really be worth anything like as much. You need to place a realistic quick sale valuation on your four year old over-supplied low-demand vehicle.

GC8,

Where can you get NEW 07 WRX saloons for £10k?

Cheers,

Ian.

TheVoices 09 August 2008 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by TheVoices (Post 8058805)
Glasses Guide is just that 'a guide', at the moment it is a very rare car that is even worth bottom book.

I have a customer wanting to trade in his 2006 997 Carrera 2 coupe, mint UK car, 14k miles, good colour combi with desirable nav and phone. Glasses trade is £43k, best bid anywhere in the country from main dealers and independants (including the main dealer that he paid £57k 12 months ago) is £37k, best offer last month was £40k against book price of £44750 ! You know the used market is on its a**e when 911's are behind book !

When you can buy a new EU WRX for £15k, the used values are bound to take a hit. I find that some Subaru and Evo owners have the same mindset as MX5 owners had 5-10 yrs ago, ie. used to their cars retaining loads of the purchase price and think that is the norm. When things like cheaper imports or drop in the popularity of their car as a second hand buy make values drop like a stone they often struggle to accept the reality.

The reality is that if a car holds 40% of its new value at 3 years old you have done very well !

As another example, one of our Mercedes dealers sold a 57k Blobeye STi UK this week for £6800 as a retail deal, they had paid £5500 for it by the way.

Forgot to add it was a '53' plate !

martyrobertsdj 09 August 2008 05:37 PM

How much do I think it's worth??


Originally Posted by mark ward (Post 8058851)
Original Price £25,977
Franchised Dealer £13,775
Independent Dealer £13,120
Private Good £12,465
Private Poor £10,480
Part Exchange £11,290

8k is a pure piss take, Say yes wait to ya do the deal then say no right at the end see how they like being taken for a prick....

I would say £10 500 is fair for that car in todays market....

Summat like that :)

And Mr Brian Of Chocolate ..........I know TOTB is gone mate, but I can't access the bit to change my sig' for some reason.....what....you think I'm mental or summat?? ;)...........edit: Accessed and changed. :)

RyanSTI 09 August 2008 06:13 PM

lol! 8k is good mate, trust me ;)

i bought my 2003 sti for 6k.

Mike Murphy 09 August 2008 06:19 PM

damn!! I must have got a good deal, just traded in a 2003 (53) WRX wagon with 64k miles for £10500.

Then again, chopping it in against a brand new STI, so probably a good margin in the new car, or I was very lucky!!

MMT WRX 09 August 2008 06:58 PM

http://www.virtual-showroom.co.uk/ne..._glassLogo.jpg

Subaru Impreza WRX STI Type UK
2.0 Petrol 4-door Saloon
6 Speed Manual Four Wheel Drive
Year: 2004 54
Mileage: 28,000

Part-exchange Price:
Excellent condition:
£10000

Average condition:
£9020

Below average condition:
£8070

Glass's guide

Click on here and re-submit if the details wrong

Blueblaster 09 August 2008 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by mark ward (Post 8058851)
Original Price £25,977
Franchised Dealer £13,775
Independent Dealer £13,120
Private Good £12,465
Private Poor £10,480
Part Exchange £11,290

8k is a pure piss take, Say yes wait to ya do the deal then say no right at the end see how they like being taken for a prick....

I would say £10 500 is fair for that car in todays market....

Where are these numbers from?

I'm happy to be proved wrong, but does anyone know of anyone, anywhere that has sold a 54 plate STI for £10,500 in the last few months?

Is it stilover who is trying to sell his very nice STI at the moment? He's after £12,500 for a younger car with some very nice (non-chav) mods and hasn't had even a nibble. It's entirely likely that any dealer buying any Impreza at the moment is going to have it sitting on his forecourt for a long time. You gotta be realistic.

TheVoices 09 August 2008 11:36 PM


Originally Posted by Mike Murphy (Post 8059026)
damn!! I must have got a good deal, just traded in a 2003 (53) WRX wagon with 64k miles for £10500.

Then again, chopping it in against a brand new STI, so probably a good margin in the new car, or I was very lucky!!

I think if you had been buying the new one with no trade in you would have got £4k off list based on the px price you were given !

Blueblaster 10 August 2008 12:17 PM

Harratts Used Cars

Pinched this from another active thread. Still think it's worth £15-16k :(?

explore 10 August 2008 12:30 PM

wow 03 wrx mint they will only offer £5500 are people that dumb to use these people?

tinoproductions 10 August 2008 12:41 PM

Have a look at this and weep:
Motor Depot Car Supermarket | Buy New & Used subaru impreza cars at Motor Depot Car Supermarkets

Expensive fuel, crap housing market, depressed economy = Huge depreciation on performance cars.

My Bosses M5, 55 Plate. bought 9 months ago for 48K. today he is looking at early 30's. Thats a HIT! 18MPG doesnt halp i guess!

DaveBeck 10 August 2008 12:42 PM

if people are desperate, im guessing so. wrx bugeye owners dont type your car in. :cry:

bpm1588 10 August 2008 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by RyanSTI (Post 8059014)
lol! 8k is good mate, trust me ;)

i bought my 2003 sti for 6k.

sounds like a bargain mate...do you run webuyanycar.com? :)

alba15031 10 August 2008 01:13 PM

i just tried that website to see what they will give me payed £4500 for it 6 months aga Over priced i think its a 1997 WRX import 30,000 miles said they would give me 900 quid lol


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