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Bravo2zero_sps 10 July 2008 11:46 AM

What bird of prey is a red orange colour...
 
if you see it from behind?

Something has just flown into the garden, grabbed a sparrow off the bird table, flung it against the patio doors, ripped the sh!t out of it and then flew off with the ripped to pieces sparrow in its huge talons to a big old oak tree some way off :eek:

It seemed far too big for a Sparrow Hawk which is what we've had before

http://www.slcrr.org/wildlife/Sparrow_hawk_1.jpg

What looks similar to a Sparrow Hawk but is far bigger? The Mrs said it had massive talons. As I saw it flying off the entire back of it was red/orange not just patches like on a Sparrow Hawk and it definately seemed too big for a Sparrow Hawk, it was bloody enormous! Was fecking impressive (although not for the sparrow) :cool:

Simon C 10 July 2008 11:47 AM

That would be a Kestral, which is smaller than a sparrow hawk.

Harris hawks are larger than Saprrow hawks, and redish brown all over. IIRC harris hawks have about 1m wing span.

Goshawk would be slightly smaller than the Harris, but tend to be much more grey brown.

andys 10 July 2008 11:48 AM

Did it have a forked tail? Could be Red kite

al4x1 10 July 2008 11:53 AM

most likely to be a big sparrow hawk if it was a red kite its unusual to take a sparrow like that and your missus would have been a bit WTF is that in the garden as they really are massive when you get up close

Paul3446 10 July 2008 12:00 PM

Are you sure it wasn't a small boy flying a red kite? :D

Bravo2zero_sps 10 July 2008 02:18 PM

I thought red kite but then thought you wouldn't be finding those in Kent or in your back garden eating sparrows. However when on the phone to my parents who live about 16 miles away several red kites were released at the golf course there last summer.

Oh and the Mrs was saying wtf is that in the garden when she heard the sparrow hit the patio doors :lol1:

I definitely wasn't a Goshawk or Harris Hawk. I suppose it must have been just a very big and colourful Sparrow Hawk. Don't think it could have been a Red Kite because having shown her the pics on Google she said its face wasn't white like the Red Kites although from google pics some have far whiter faces than others.

I really adore birds of prey but I hope it doesn't come back as I have tamed the collared doves in the garden including the baby to come and sit next to me whilst I put the bird seed out and I don't want them getting killed.

As for bloody google, that is a picture of a kestrel above so that will teach me to check the link actually shows what is says it is and not something else :rolleyes:

Sparrow Hawk or Red Kite:

http://www.nerdybirders.com/images/B...parrowhawk.jpg

or

http://www.surfbirds.com/media/galle...0212120058.jpg

I'm going for Sparrow Hawk even though it was very orange/red and big as I just can't believe we had a Red Kite in the garden.

Now the Mrs says it looked like the bottom pic which doesn't have such a white face as the other pic I showed her of a Red Kite! :o

andys 10 July 2008 02:26 PM

Well I had a kite in our garden the other day and I live in the middle of town. Seem to be moving south from the Chilterns. However still sounds strange it taking a live bird like that, they are normally scavengers.

Kite flies high in town - News - getwokingham - The Wokingham Times

Bravo2zero_sps 10 July 2008 02:31 PM

Our 3 rabbits were in the garden at the time in their runs, bet it put the sh!ts up them having that land next to them and eat its breakfast :lol1:

Wurzel 10 July 2008 02:31 PM

I live in a valley near the black forest in Germany and I had 6 red kites flying over my house last weekend, I managed to snap a few pics of a few of them flying round but the pics are not professional standard plus I have no where to host them. Awesome birds and there are a handful that fly around nearly everyday. They are called Rotmilan or Roter Milan in German.

Bravo2zero_sps 10 July 2008 02:38 PM

Ah might have been a Marsh Harrier:

The RSPB: Marsh harrier

Apparently plenty of them in Kent and have the orange brown colour. Still doesn't look orange enough for what I saw flying off though.

Duck_Pond 10 July 2008 02:56 PM

Male sparrowhawks have an orange front to them. Marsh harriers are rather rare (and shy), so I doubt it's one of those... and the manic attack described matches the lunacy of a "sprawk".

Red Kites are larger than buzzards, and tend to feed on mammals or dead things... and would look fecking enormous in a garden!

Bravo2zero_sps 10 July 2008 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by Duck_Pond (Post 7996558)
Male sparrowhawks have an orange front to them. Marsh harriers are rather rare (and shy), so I doubt it's one of those... and the manic attack described matches the lunacy of a "sprawk".

Red Kites are larger than buzzards, and tend to feed on mammals or dead things... and would look fecking enormous in a garden!

I saw this one just as it took off and flew away as the Mrs shouting at me to look frightened it off so all I saw was its back that's what was an orange colour. Thing is it was the same colour all across its wing span, I didn't notice markings or white wing tips for example but then it was one of those gobsmacked moments where you sort of just stare but don't really pay attention to detail.

Just did another google search on Sparrow Hawk and got this image, far more orange/brown colours than other pics of Sparrow Hawks i've seen plus looks a bigger bird than in other pics and the colour in this pic is just like I saw so it was a Sparrow Hawk in the garden then (if that is in fact a pic of a Sparrow Hawk!) :)

http://www.rhiw.com/y_pentra/rhiw_cr...arrow_hawk.jpg


This is what I thought all Sparrow Hawks looked like:

http://www.sutton.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyre...rrowHawk01.jpg

You wouldn't think the two pics were of the same bird hence thinking it was something different.

Alg 10 July 2008 07:31 PM

Could've been a Reagle
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...rob/Reagle.jpg

Bravo2zero_sps 10 July 2008 07:36 PM

:lol1:

J4CKO 10 July 2008 10:03 PM

I reckon it was a Lauper

http://www.ottres.ca/tmach/globalbir...n22lauper1.jpg


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